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Ojeda, Keith and Burkhardt talk Tejada, Flores & SS

Mets SS Ruben Tejada bobbled a ground ball in the field today, then made a high throw to first, botching a potential inning-ending play at first or second base.

SNY’s Keith Hernandez, Bob Ojeda and Kevin Burkhardt then had the following exchange on air about the shortstop position:

Hernandez: “I’m beginning to think that maybe it’s in Ruben’s head now, his defensive game.”

Burkhardt: “He needs a shot of confidence, Keith, there is no question about it. He made that error the other day, he made a couple of misplays in that game, and he just doesn’t seem as confident. You know, he’s doubting himself and I don’t know that things have been helped by the shots put out by the organization. I really don’t think that has helped, to be quite honest.”

Ojeda: “He just looks like he’s in between at the plate and in between defensively. It stems from not knowing who is yet. He doesn’t have a basis for who he is and he’s searching. The game starts moving real fast at this level.”

Burkhardt: “If you’re Tejada, you come in, you do what the organization asked – he clearly wasn’t in the shape they wanted, he didn’t have a good year – so he goes to camp in Michigan, gets in shape, does everything, gets to camp early, then immediately upon camp starting there are shots in the newspaper about Tejada not being in the shape they want. I don’t know that that was the best way to start things with him when he did everything you asked him to do.”

Hernandez: “Look, he’s in the doghouse last year. … If you feel like you’re not liked by the front office, you’re not going to perform up to peak unless you’re a real hard-nosed guy and the attitude has to be: ‘I’ll show those son of a guns, watch me.’ That’s the kind of attitude you’ve got to take.”

Burkhardt: “Here’s the thing, if they don’t think he’s the shortstop, they’ve got to find someone else who is. That’s the bottom line.”

Hernandez: “Well, I don’t think he’s in camp.”

Ojeda: “They’re gonna try Wilmer Flores later on this week. Is there enough time left in camp to make that decision?”

Hernandez: “I don’t know if Flores is gonna have the range. I have to see his arm. I don’t think he’s got the arm from shortstop. We’ll see.”

Sandy Alderson said Tejada looked rusty in his return last week.

“I don’t want to put a microscope on Ruben at this point,” Alderson said (ESPN NY, Mar. 9). “Let’s let him play a little bit and see where we are.”




109 comments
Mary Keogh
Mary Keogh

The microscope has been on him for a year or more. Alderson is so full of it.

Joseph
Joseph

Any updates on the SS Drew signing with the Mets this weekend.?

Daniel Mergenthaler
Daniel Mergenthaler

Look, I'm not judging a guy on some spring training games. Granted its all we got to go by but its not like Ozzie smith is waiting on the wire.  mets need to give guys a shot and have faith in their players. I think the mets  have the pitching talent to become a dynasty. That said. As long as this guy can do the basics he will be fine.   

As a life long met fan I can say. They need to just follow there long time quote. " you gotta believe!"

Starz31
Starz31

Everything they said is accurate. He's obviously pressing here. I just don't understand the Mets way of handling all this though.

It's one thing for the Mets to say these things and criticize him, but I don't get why they would do it publicly. If anything, you should say it to Tejada privately. Obviously, you want him to know. But you do not help him by saying it publicly as the fans will turn on him, and now you hurt your leverage in any negotiations with Drew or in a trade. It's going to be a lot more difficult to sign Drew at a more reasonable price when the other party knows they can hold out for their money since you have no other options. Ditto in a trade talk. 

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Read on ESPN that the Mariners had two scouts at today's game. Fingers crossed.

Doug Hoey
Doug Hoey

The only reason Tejada is still on the team is to divert us from remembering that we don't have anyone to place first base either. The 2014 Mets- Half a Head. Half a Heart- Half an Infield

Shawn R. Babcock
Shawn R. Babcock

The most frustrating thing is not management's decisions in the past, but the fact they won't fix the problem. Tejada needs a fresh start somewhere else...and that would be something you would think management would be okay with...but they won't work to pony up the 10 million for Drew. I understand if they don't want to trade a young arm for Franklin, but Drew could be had for what should fall under "the price of doing business." I don't want to hear about WAR stats or whatever it is...Drew takes care of a King Kong sized hole and makes us whole and ready to make an honest effort at those 90 wins. It's cringe worthy to hear 90 wins in one breath and have SS be potentially compleatly broken in the other.

Quick note: Keith is worried about Flores having the range for SS. Who says Tejada does these days? Burkeheart seems to pull no punches. He stirs the pot. Maybe he didn't get the memo.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Hernandez, as usual, on on-point. SS not in camp. The team cannot compete with those guys currently on the roster. Blame squarely on Sandy. He had ONE thing to accomplish in the off-season. Not serial-nibbler Bartolo Colon. Not Chris Young, the Seven Million Dollar Man. With the money spent on these two the could have easily signed Peralta. Tejada is clearly not the answer. My money says they will pull a Luis Castillo and release him at the very end of Spring Training. Nice to see Keith and the guys openly critical for a change.

tw22
tw22

He's not the hard nosed guy who says, "I'll show them sons of guns". That's it, move on. make a deal for Franklin or sign Drew. Cecchini is a year and a half to two years away and Herrera is s solid two years away. Applying a proffesional stoip gap is better than seeing if Tejada can work out of it or if Flores has the range.

archer41
archer41

22 hits in the game and the Mets have 5.  Awesome.  Thanks, Fred!

willymayshays
willymayshays


Biggest mistake was letting Reyes go, I've always liked Tejada, (last yr was a real let down, obviously) but as a B/U.  Sure Reyes missed stretches but Tejada was a nice insurance policy, plus he could have given Murph a few days off vs tough LHP's and also the late defensive sub for Murph. 


Bottom line, Wilpons threw away Reyes, then threw Tejada under the bus.  OK, maybe Reyes doesn't get Crawford money and maybe Tejada needs to work harder. (that visa/late to camp, but wasn't bs was ridiculous) ...... but why do I (and EVERYONE else) know about this.  Keep it in house you idiots.  At least until they're no longer on the team. 

archer41
archer41

And send down d'Arnaud while you're at it.  Start the Kevin Plawecki Era already.  

happy hank
happy hank

Flores definitely has the arm for SS, in fact he has a great arm. the real problem is his range. his nickname is La Tortuga AKA The Turtle. Wilmer Flores is still way too young to sit on a bench, that could hinder his development. Flores needs to play everyday in AAA preferably at 3B where he could shine to drive up his trade value. Tejada has to be the guy.   

i can deal with Tejada till the deadline or even the winter. just remember if the Mets trade one of the young gun pitchers right now for a young SS that guy is going to be the Mets SS for the next 4-5 years. atleast till Cecchini is ready if not longer if Gavin dose not work out.   

so if the Mets get Franklin, Owings, Gregorius or whoever they had better be sure that that is the guy they really want the most. personally i would rather not get Franklin. sure if he could be had for alot lesser pitching prospect then i can deal with the trade off. but if the Mets have to give up a Montero then i want better then Franklin. if i had my druthers i would pick Hak-Ju Lee. and if i was omnipotent i would trade DeGrom for Starling Castro LOL. but i  do think Lee could be gotten. 

Nick Antinarella
Nick Antinarella

The Wilpons deserve this mess at SS, if you ask me. They darn well knew they were going to let Reyes walk but kept him on the team to sell more tickets and make more money. There was plenty of time to trade Reyes during the Summer when they could have gotten something in return, a possible SS replacement. Or anything in return, really. Tejada and Flores are not the answer at SS for the NYM. They just aren’t.

If the BlueJays are out of contention during the Summer it may be worth a look to pick up the phone and see if they’re open for trading for Reyes (assuming he stays healthy through that portion of the season). Is Jose the long term answer? No. But, if the Mets were able to absorb some of his contract, he’d be the perfect stopgap at SS for the Mets over the next couple of years while they go out and draft a younger player to replace him. Or they can just bite the bullet and overpay for Drew. Either way, again, Flores/Tejada aren’t the answer…

mikerolli
mikerolli

Sandy Alderson smoking crack pipe said Tejada looked rusty in his return last week.

Lol ya think??? Haha wow

hashburry
hashburry

Alderson and the Mets are the Kings of denigrating players with absolutely no contingency in place if they fail.  He did it with Ike at the end of last year, same with Duda; and he has done it repeatedly for two years with Tejada.  Alderson really needs to catch up with the times and realize that different players need to be treated differently for motivation.  Take a psyche class for cryin' out loud.  Or at the very least make a rational decision on these players and move on.

72tilltc
72tilltc

I like the strategy of not playing DW and Murph to prevent injuries. TC should play no one and we wont have any injuries. It is almost as if TC and Sandy have no clue how to handle a major league roster. Looking at the 2 scrubs he signed for backup first and i couldn't figure how Sandy even knew who they are all his signings have been Yankees A's and Padres because he watches the Yanks he is an A fan and former exec and he had scrubs that he signed for the padres. Well turns out both were AAA stars for Tuscon Padre affiliate. Sandy you ROCK!!!

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Any of the SS that could be available also a leadoff batter? Neither of the Youngs impress me at all.

David Wright
David Wright

Drew, Owings, Franklin, Asdrubal, Me, Wilmer, Tovar, Seratelli. ANYONE EXCEPT RUBEN!!!!!

wilpondscm
wilpondscm

tejada is garbage. how someone given the opportunity to play major league baseball for a living with their salary can't be motivated to stay in shape on his own is ridiculous. yes the mets often rip players to the media which does not help their cause. but honestly dude, get in shape. 

Metsnow
Metsnow

Unfortunately Tejada is now being exposed for what he really is......a minor league player on a MLB team.  The unfortunate thing is.....the Mets have no other options at this time. The Mets created this Sh$#@storm themselves by criticizing and talking negatively about Tejada to the Bloggers and reporters in the first place without a plan to replace him. This is an old problem that has not  been addressed since they let Jose Reyes walk away without getting anything in return!!!

happy hank
happy hank

@Kevin VanTassell  i'd rather have Didi Gregorius and i'd be willing to give up Plawecki and DeGrom

Dan Bahr
Dan Bahr

@Shawn R. Babcock It's not $10 million for Drew.  They reportedly offered him $9.5 million but he still wants $14-15 million.  That's too much.

jamets
jamets

What are you talking about?  Peralta got $52 million.  Colon got 20 and Young got 7. 

52 > 27

nncyel
nncyel

@Kenneth Meltsner  Did you ever stop to think that perhaps Peralta really really wanted to sign with the Cardinals and not the Mets? 

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@archer41 Take a deep breath and relax - it's still early in the preseason. I'm sure you'll have plenty of opportunities for this type of rant once the regular season starts.

Starz31
Starz31

@willymayshays  Biggest mistake was not trading Reyes when his value was sky high from a great start to the season. I didn't like the idea of paying him $100 million +, or more than 5years, because I don't like how his style of game will evolve as he gets older and loses his speed. And especially when the team was at a point in time when they were not very intent, or lets be honest here, able to, spend a lot of money on salaries. They knew they weren't going to resign him yet they chose to keep him a few more months to pray that people would come to the park. He ends up getting hurt (although he did get hurt right before the trade deadline, sadly) They got nothing though for letting him walk (yes, a draft pick). They should have sold high and got a lot more back. Even if his value was lowered b/c of his injury, you could have gotten something positive back. 

But who knows, maybe his injury did ruin his trade market and Sandy chose to hold onto him instead of a getting measly prospect. 

tw22
tw22

@willymayshays If they had paid Reyes they would have less to work with than they do now, not only financially but in their organizational depth. Reyes had a typical Reyes year last season with a better cast of characters around him and helped lead his team his team top last place. Stop. Just stop.

willymayshays
willymayshays

@archer41  

HA, fanatic you

Plawecki strikes out 3 times tomorrow and it's "too many holes in his swing, trade him before he gets worse"
 

tw22
tw22

@happy hank Flores is destined for first base or the American League. Kid can hit.

willymayshays
willymayshays

@Nick Antinarella  

answer to what question???How to win the WS...????

No avail or potentially avail SS will make or break this team.  


 

hashburry
hashburry

@72tilltc  Yeah, not playing Murph is a good idea.  His defense is so stellar, he doesn't need to get ready for the season.  The middle infield is going to be a circus this year.  Good luck to the young pitchers and all the extra pitches they are going to have to throw because of all the extra outs this infield, excepting Wright, is going to give away.

David Wright
David Wright

Honestly the dude needs to get some talent.

Shawn R. Babcock
Shawn R. Babcock

@Dan Bahr @Shawn R. Babcockand he wants a 3 year deal and an opt-out after one year. So...how about this. 3 yrs. Opt-out after one-year. 10 million per. Negotiate. I'm sure he doesn't want to be sitting out on opening day putting up no stats.

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@tw22 @willymayshays Jose's OPS last year was right at his career average (one point shy), but do you know how many triples he had, in 93 games?  Zero.  And he went 15 for 21 in SB, 71%, which is not good.  Jose is a legs guy, and those numbers would make me very concerned that he is losing his legs.  Don't get me wrong, .780 is a terrific OPS for a shortstop, but $20 million+ per year going forward?  No way.

willymayshays
willymayshays

@tw22 @willymayshays 

Sorry, but the Mets payroll should be north of 80 mil. How many want to spend nearly as much on a player significantly worse in Drew?!


AND blaming Reyes for Tor season is crazy!  DWright is to blame for the Mets terrible season last yr.....right.  stop, just stop.



happy hank
happy hank

@tw22 @happy hank  just because he can hit dose not mean that he can't play defense. i truly believe he can play a good 3B and i'm not just saying that because he will be worth more. it's just that he cant play 3B here. also i think he can hit but his bat will look good as a 3B, he might be adequate as a 1B and i don't think he has enough pure power for a DH.

jamets
jamets

That's such a terrible argument. 

No single move will make us a WS contender, so don't make any moves?

Nick Antinarella
Nick Antinarella

A serviceable SS for this team. Or, God forbid, an above average one.

72tilltc
72tilltc

@hashburry @72tilltc  A veteran team with WS potential can coast through spring this team needs to get ready. But TC wastes all of spring then experiments with losers in April and plays the Vets in September. They have no clue.

willymayshays
willymayshays

@archer41  

Sometimes when you don't hear me it's because I'm in parenthesis- Steven Wright

mikerolli
mikerolli

Give tejada wiffle ball bat lol

Starz31
Starz31

@William O'Sullivan @tw22 @willymayshays  Yes, this is the reason. Reyes is a good SS. Certainly an above average one. But paying him big money as he gets older is a risky proposition. Especially on a team that obviously had limited resources then and are just now becoming interested in spending some money. The team will have an $80 million+ payroll soon enough, but it obviously has a ceiling so they don't want to spend foolishly and limit their ability to improve when the team really needs it. 

jamets
jamets

I think he's going to have a hard time hitting enough to stick at 1B, too. 

3B is clearly the best opition, but if we play him there we are telling the rest of the league that we HAVE to trade him.  If he can play a below average, but not terrible 2B, it gives us more options.  Tough call though, because it might be a stretch for him to even be that good at 2B.

Nick Antinarella
Nick Antinarella

@jamets  Who said anything about one player making the team a contender. My point was that we've had SS issues ever since the Mets thought it was a great idea to let Reyes walk; without a backup plan. Reyes doesn't need to be on this team but their inability to manage the position since his departure is laughable. I applaud their effort at trying Tejada and Flores but they're obviously not cutting it. They need a solution at SS, rather than just shuffling through home grown players. Obviously that's not going to work so the alternatives are a) sign a FA (which will obviously be over priced) or b) trade for a SS.

willymayshays
willymayshays

@Nick Antinarella  

Well that's what Drew is average, AND expensive.

Not sure why Tejada digressed to such a large degree, or why he was unmotivated to put in the work, but the previous 2 yrs he was average and cheap.


Do not "bite the bullet" with Drew, unless his price comes down significantly.  I would rather trade for a Franklin type.