Note: Mike Jacobs, Fernando Tatis, and First Base

Prior to yesterday’s 4-2 loss to the Rays, Jerry Manuel told reporters there will be a platoon of Mike Jacobs and Fernando Tatis at first base.

Manuel said Jacobs will bat fourth, in between David Wright and Jason Bay, telling reporters: “He’s a power guy…He’s a presence on the field. I’ve always liked Jacobs.”

…i feel like the Mets first base situation has been like an SAT question this winter, where i look at the possible choices and i don’t see the right answer, but i have to choose the best answer out of four not so good answers…the thing is, i don’t think Jacobs is going to hurt this team and in many ways, i think his bat is going to be beneficial…he has holes in both his offensive game and defensive game for sure, and yes, there is definitely a fair argument to have promoted Chris Carter instead of Jacobs, but in watching the two of them closely this Spring, i like Jacobs personality, and he also has major league service time under his belt, in the NL East at that, whereas Carter doesn’t…that said, having both Jacobs and Bay back to back in the lineup will amount to a ton of strikeouts…ugh…and then there is Tatis who has played a grand total of 43 games at first base in his career…

…i know the Mets have very few options and they have to choose the best of what they’ve got, but i think Tatis greatest value is as a right handed power bat off the bench, and that’s where he has excelled for most of the past three seasons…i think the Mets best shot at success here is to start by not exploiting a player’s weakness, but rather put their players in a situation which gives them the best possible chance to succeed, which will in turn lead to overall success of the team…




78 comments
therealprof
therealprof

Love bowing out of playing for the USA team just so he doesn't have to answer trade demand themed questions is a sucker move, IMO. Representing your nation in international competition should be treated as a privilege, not a burden. IMO, of course. 

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Check out this twitter chat I had with this Minny beat writer:

@s_nadler: @DarrenWolfson if Cavs never offer Wiggins, and GSW never offer Klay, it might be Flips only option at two young prospects

@s_nadler: @DarrenWolfson correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Hardaway all rookie first team, that's not talented?

@DarrenWolfson: @s_nadler Flip's a fan. He's not taking a NY offer.

So he basically has no response when I call him out on Hardaway, he just responds with a definitive no, with no basis at all

Iobcity1
Iobcity1

As a fan I would love to see a core of Kyrie, Bron, & Wiggins.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Regardless of whether the rumor is true or false, I'm pretty sure Amare will not be on this team opening night. As I have pointed out previously, Amare might be the worst possible PF to play in the triangle system. If you understand the triangle it requires the big men to facilitate a lot of the offense from the foul line extended, looking for cuts and passes. As we all know Amare has zero passing ability, he's slow to react and looks for his own move. This isn't even talking about his awful defense. Either way, Phil knows Stat doesn't fit, it's about what team can take on his contract.

brookdon
brookdon

OT.

Is there a bigger joke in sports than the baseball hall of fame?

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

In what world is controlled nba rotation player, a young deadeye shooter who just made all rookie team and is controlled for 3 more years, a monster expiring and taking back two more contracts a "low ball offer"?

And people want to compare that to an injured expiring for a top three nba player....

Ridiculousness.

purehussle
purehussle

If we could some how get Markieff Morris Id be pleased.

Marvel_
Marvel_

Bennett, waiters, 1st for love....remember there was no Wiggins in the deal, and judging by the fact that Love is still on the Wolves there probably was never a Wiggins lead deal...


point being Cavs offered trash at first and got countered.. as did GS (Barnes ? Lee ?)


yet where was the backlash for the initial offer ????


exactly, don't let the media make you hate your own team

phenomenal
phenomenal

@Seth Nadler Denver might have gotten the best deal for a Star anyone is going to get.  Teams aren't going to give up what we did for anyone not named KD and LBJ, especially after the perceived effect it had on the Knicks. 

Minny should figure out what it wants.  A trade w/ Knicks could only trump what Chicago or Cleveland is offering if they want to go back to point zero.  We could take back any long term contract they want to get rid of.  Doubt they wanna give up Pekovic or Rubio, but we can take Martin & Budinger off their hands.

Now that I think about it, they might wanna ship Rubio for something if they don't want to pay him the money he's gonna want when his contract extension time is here.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

And one more:

@DarrenWolfson: @s_nadler Young doesn't matter. It's young and talented. Flip can trade Love today if young is the only criteria.

Marvel_
Marvel_

@Iobcity1


Bron needs multiple HOF players for "help"


just saying...

phenomenal
phenomenal

@Iobcity1 nah, bron needs better Vegas odds.  "overcoming" is overrated, I guess.

dylan
dylan

@brookdon The NFL Pro Bowl maybe lol. Really stupid to change the eligibility from 15 to 10 though. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@BiggieTKB 

According to the ESPN trade machine, that deal makes us 10 wins better and Minnesota decreases them 12 wins. 

What's a Knick fan not to like about that?


phenomenal
phenomenal

@BiggieTKB who are the " injured expiring for a top three nba player...." guys?

Sandro Guedes
Sandro Guedes

@BiggieTKB 

Minnesotta would still have to throw in a 1st rounder or Phil wouldn't make the deal.

Sandro Guedes
Sandro Guedes

@purehussle 

Been saying that since last summer. Everyone called him a scrub. Some even said he would never be a good rotation player in the NBA.

goldbuddha
goldbuddha

@Marvel I completely agree with you. Even though I don't think this offer is as low as everyone wants to act like if it is. It's a starting point.

By some people's logic there is no reason for a throw away pitch in baseball, or no reason to jab in boxing, no reason to run a sweep play in order to set up a Play Action pass. They might also be against the crossover because it "tarnishes" your dribble lol

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Lol at Bennett..dude looks like sweetney reincarnated.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@phenomenal  what about UTah's haul for Deron?  what about the Celtics Haul for the three old men?

Sandro Guedes
Sandro Guedes

@phenomenal @Seth Nadler

The Knicks cannot outbid Cleveland and Chicago. They just have better and more assets than us.

Knicks only chance would be Cleveland barring Wiggins, Bulls barring Butler and Love saying "I only want NY".

KJ Torres
KJ Torres

You bugging out seth..stat is going to make you and others look stupid...hes an allstar this year

Marvel_
Marvel_

@Knicks_Fanatic


because bennett and waiters (cavs initial offer) would make them a playoff team lol




STARTING POINT



(i really dont understand why you...a smart person are playing this game...weird)

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Read below.. hint.. bargnani is an injured expiring

purehussle
purehussle

He's a good for wit melo and the triangle.

phenomenal
phenomenal

@Sandro Guedes @phenomenal @Seth Nadler The "Only Want NY" angle is dope for us, but not likely.

I was saying that we cannot outbid them regarding talent... however if Minny's goal isn't the mid level talent Cle and Chi are offering, rather PREFER getting as little payroll for a run at 2015 / 2016 free agents, we can offer cap relief via Stat and Bargs' contracts.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@phenomenal @BiggieTKB they got Derrick Favors .. who just reupped for 4 years 50 mil and put up 13/9 in 30 minutes


and they got Devin Harris and two first round picks.


one of the nets picks turned into Alec Burks and the other was Golden State's

Sandro Guedes
Sandro Guedes

@phenomenal

Wiggins and Butler are on their rookie deals. And they're better regarded than Timmy from everyone but TKB. And Minny ain't LA. No FA's want to go there. Their best chance is to get players signed long term, or restricted free agents.

Amare would be out ASAP. Shumpert isn't worth keeping at the price he'll command in restricted free agency and that leaves them with Timmy. Would you trade Love for Timmy straight up?

C'mon now.

Unless Love says "NY or nothing", Minny wouldn't consider anything short of Timmy, Shumpert, Amare, Larkin and 2018 1st rounder. And even then, they'd be begging Cavs and Bulls to make an offer.

Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

@Sandro Guedes @phenomenal  Damn! Timmy Shumpert Larkin for love??? I rather stand pat! I look at Love's #'s & they are impressive but I just think he's David Lee with a Jump shot(which isn't so bad) but I want to see our players in Zen's System before making trades! 

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@Sandro Guedes @phenomenal butler is just a wing defender.. he cant hit the broad side of the barn from outside 10 feet.. 


who says he's more "highly regarded" than Timmy.?

phenomenal
phenomenal

@Sandro Guedes @phenomenal once again... .I'm not saying we have a more attractive offer than any other team chasing for Love.

I was saying that Minny needs to decide what it wants... what it values...

alot of teams keep doing this "young players on rookie contracts" thing and they get their hearts broken when those young players leave early.

With cap space and a talented FA pool, teams could instantly get better.  For instance, maybe overpaying guys like Monta Ellis, Jeff Green, Paul Milsap, and teaming them with Rubio and Pekovic could get them to the playoffs.

Now, though I feel that this line of thinking is not common, and Minny probably won't do it, the Knicks could provide them the space to do something like this due to our huge expirings... so it wouldn't be about how good THJ is or how long Shump would stay.  It would only be able cap space.

Once again... it depends on the strategy of the organization and what they want to do.

phenomenal
phenomenal

@therealprof @phenomenal @Sandro Guedes @Seth Nadler hey, who knows what Minny is thinking... they may look to overpay 3 or 4 of the 2nd tier 2015 FA's as a strategy to become a playoff team.

I certainly understand the longshot nature of the idea, though....

and honestly, I'm not even fiendin' for KLove like that.

Max Denby
Max Denby

Lol. Dude that trade would be a big steal for the knicks.

Sandro Guedes
Sandro Guedes

@phenomenal @Sandro Guedes

Even if they want to have cap space next year to do so and bring in some expirings, they can ship Rubio to a team with cap space for some picks and expirings. They can package Martin with Love for the Cavs, because LeBron wats Love and he's in charge now. Cavs have Varejão big expiring to give for Martin.

I just don't see the Knicks being real Love suitors. And I'm happy they aren't, Love and Melo is a no go for me.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@Sandro Guedes @phenomenal If Lebron is in charge Varejao isnt getting traded.


Cleveland has not indicated they are willling to take Martin and in fact dont have the pieces to make that happen.