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Noah Syndergaard expects to be with Mets in July

Mets RHP prospect Noah Syndergaard answered questions from fans on Twitter last week.

In regards to when he thinks he’ll be promoted, Syndergaard said, “I hear New York is nice in July.”

He also said he looks forward to learning from Matt Harvey, that  Roy Halladay was his favorite pitcher when he was growing up and he hopes to wear No. 34 when he makes the 25-man roster.

Syndergaard was recently named the league’s third-best right-handed pitching prospect on MLB.com’s Top 100 Prospect List.

“Syndergaard is a classic power right-hander and uses his big frame to throw downhill and induce ground balls,” according to the list’s authors, Jim Callis and Jonathan Mayo. “His fastball regularly reaches 98 mph and runs inside on right-handed hitters. His 12-to-6 curveball is his best secondary pitch, though his change-up has the potential to be a third plus pitch in his arsenal.”

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Metsnow
Metsnow

If not sooner....When was the last time we had a hitting prospect that we were so excited to see? David Wright?? pretty sad that this organization can't draft quality hitters.

cactus
cactus

actually, new york is hot as crotch in july.

Poop-a-doodle-doo!
Poop-a-doodle-doo!

Anyone have a reason not to bring him up in July? (Case in point: Jose Fernandez of the Marlins)

Jeffrey Theodore
Jeffrey Theodore

Dude from marlins Jose Fernandez had even less experience in minors n he turned out ok

Jeffrey Theodore
Jeffrey Theodore

Dude from marlins Jose Fernandez have almost no minor league experience so tho

zoddie
zoddie

The kid has 11 starts in AA and none in AAA.  Even aside from super-2 status, he needs more time in the minors to refine his breaking pitches/off-speed stuff.

Poop-a-doodle-doo!
Poop-a-doodle-doo!

I think this is a very good idea for the Mets to bring him up. Has class, a great fastball, and an unhittable curve. He can take Harvey's spot in the rotation for the rest of the year anyway.

New York City is not nice in July. It's way too humid! But I'll put up with the humidity to see this guy pitching at Citi.

Shaun Bewick
Shaun Bewick

Wish our AAA affiliate was anywhere but Vegas... I was worried about the hitters environment there affecting Wheeler and Montero last year, I'll probably follow all of Noah and Montero's starts for the same reason... he seems like a pretty headstrong kid, hopefully he'll make the most of his time there

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

Harvey wheeler and Thor is an exciting 1 2 3. Tejada duda davis in the lineup diminishes some of that excitement

mets2014
mets2014

prediction: july call up to replace the traded Dillon gee

Haig Mathosian
Haig Mathosian

Knowing the mets luck, he'll get hurt in his first start, and we'll never hear from him again

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Can't wait to see this kid pitch for us!

AJ Guckian
AJ Guckian

Love the fact he's only 21. It's kind of funny that he's acknowledging the super 2 cutoff.

metstastic
metstastic

Their philosophy has always been pitching first. You can't have quality hitters if you don't draft them in the early rounds. Alderson is starting to change that by drafting Nimmo, Dom Smith, Cececchini, Plaweki, etc. in the early rounds.

ElVPresidente
ElVPresidente

@cactus Look where he lives. Texas in July = crotch squared.

arc34
arc34

@Jeffrey Theodore  as did Wacha for the Cardinals...both these pitchers, whom the Mets should have drafted, would still be in A ball under Sandy regime...LOL!

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@Jeffrey Theodore yeah and that's 1 case in the list of 50 pitchers called up last year. It was and still is a bonehead move by Maimi. They are going to be trading him in a 2-3 years when he's too expensive because they were dumb to not hold him back to the summer. Sure got them some nice wins to hurt their draft pick.

ElVPresidente
ElVPresidente

@zoddie He's got stuff right now that probably matches Wheeler's. His control blows Zack out of the water. And I doubt very much you'd see him losing 1-2 mph off his FB each inning. I agree, give him some AAA exposure for polish. But IMO you could slot him into a ML rotation right now.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Shaun Bewick  Personally I think it's great. Forces young power pitchers to focus on keeping the ball down in the strike zone. With the way the ball travels there, hopefully makes them better pitchers. Always the risk of them getting in their heads a bit if they are lit up due to the environment. But you have to figure if they are going to be successful at the ML level they need to be strong mentally anyway. 

MMIAA
MMIAA

@mets2014 I hear what you are saying but now hat he is healthy Gee is one of those guys you keep in your rotation and he pitches for 8 years without an incident. He'll never win the CY Young but will give you 200 innings a year with no drama.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

For payroll constraints alone odds are that one of colon Niese or gee will need to be dealt either during or after season. Hoping its colon but I guess depends on offers. Will be interesting to see how montero and Thor progress first half in minors.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Why is that funny? I'm sure he knows all about his contract situation. Why wouldn't he?

nagel100
nagel100

@metstastic  totally agree.  Smith is supposed to be the real deal and hopefully our long term answer at first base.  2016 should be the year.  we should draft a college bat for the OF at #10 this summer.   there will be several there for the taking.

zoddie
zoddie

@Mark Kelly @Gland Pretty much spot on.  He has 11 starts in AA, 0 starts in AAA, and is only 21 years old.  There are also many pitchers ahead of him - 

Colon - Gee- Niese- Wheeler - Mejia.  Then Montero and even deGrom.  There should be NO rush to bring him up.

zoddie
zoddie

@ElVPresidente @zoddie  I have little doubt that he can succeed in the Mets rotation on April 1, but there's no need.  He is young and inexperienced.  I'd rather he arrive as a finished product, work on his pitchers and less on results.  The Mets also have plenty of pitchers that are in front of him: Colon - Gee- Niese- Wheeler - Mejia.  Then Montero and even deGrom in a couple of months.  Lannan and Dice-K for extra insurance.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Tarheel11 @Shaun Bewick I don't.  It gives weak offensive guys the illusion that they are productive and it has the potential to make pitchers change what got them there in the first place or even worse...change mechanics that can lead to injuries.

mets2014
mets2014

@MMIAA @mets2014 don't get me wrong I like gee and by no means am I campaigning to trade him...however it is going to be hard to swallow his increasing salary as a number 5 in 2015 & 2016...it just makes good business sense to trade him now as a controllable pitcher for the next 3 seasons(including 2014) rather paying him a sizable salary when they clearly have the young arms coming up...think along the lines of what the rays have been doing in recent years...this is how you get the young position players while keeping the young stud arms

mets2014
mets2014

@Tarheel11 I think gee goes before colon simply because colon will make $11 million in 2015 - this is a known...gee's 2015 salary will be determined by his 2014 performance...perhaps that will make him less attractive next offseason...I really think both will be traded before the first pitch is thrown in 2015

AJ Guckian
AJ Guckian

Not funny in a bad way. I could see a young kid being bitter. He joked about it.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@kenmetskni I love how fans rip the mets, when every single other team (not playing in miami) do the same exact thing. It's just smart to keep the kid back for 5-10 starts to gain an extra full year of control.

ElVPresidente
ElVPresidente

@zoddie Oh, I agree. My point was that he may already be ahead of where Zack was, when he arrived. But we've got some depth, so let's polish this gem a little further.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@BringBackDaveTelghe @Tarheel11 @Shaun Bewick  I hear what you are saying about offensive guys. But even Wheeler said it last year after he came up. That what he was able to get away with at Binghamton, LV made him realize he had to make changes. Made him a better pitcher. You also have to hope that your coaches at the AAA level are smart enough to keep on a kid for that. Good coaching takes care of that

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@mets2014 @MMIAA  yeah, with a team like the Mets and their payroll issues, it's going to be tough to be carrying a 4/5 starter at 5+ next year. 

mets2014
mets2014

@DMMP @mets2014@Tarheel11 precisely...I have read a lot of fans' comments throughout the offseason about trading packages including young pitching for position players primarily a SS...It appears alderson is not trading the young arms...he has proved already that he would rather deal the major leaguer for the prospect and not vice versa

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@DMMP @mets2014 @Tarheel11  Very true. And you're right assuming he's performing by this trade deadline, he does have a lot of value, being signed next year at a lower rate. And yet, the acquiring team isn't locked into him long term. 

You have to figure he'll slide a bit off of last year simply because of age. However, I think coming to the NL will offset that. 

DMMP
DMMP

@mets2014 @Tarheel11  I agree with this.  If Colon goes on to have another great season and the mets are appearing out by around the trade deadline... which is entirely possible... Then you can basically say to a team that's trying to make a run... "Here, we'll trade you an ace who's making far less than most aces in the game"  And I guarantee some team out there will bite and trade a legit prospect or two....  This seems like a typical sandy signing.... Get the guy cheap/at a lower point and then sell high and maximize value. 

mets2014
mets2014

@Tarheel11 @mets2014 I really think they gave colon the extra year with the intention of dealing him prior to 2015... a very movable contract and in the meantime you get an "ace" pitcher to bridge the gap for half of 2014 or perhaps all of 2014, because I still think he will maintain a high value next offseason...of course this is assuming he pitching at the same level as the past two seasons...I like this strategy and feel they should do likewise with drew and cruz...sign them to multiyear deals with a reasonable AAV...in the event that they are able to move pieces for their future SS and/or RF, they should have little problem moving either of them...again assuming they are productive 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@mets2014 @Tarheel11  Probably right. As much as I liked the Colon signing, you almost have to look at him as a ticking time bomb. Between his age and the past PED use, you almost have to be holding your breath on him waiting for him to fall off. So if yo can maximize his return as early as possible. But I think Niese holds a lot of value being lefty. Hopefully Syndegaard and/or Montero can come up and perform well, freeing up some money for next offseason 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

True. But you have to look at it from the kids perspective. And the money involved. If a kid THINKS he's ready and deserving and looks at the 250k that he's not going to make this year since he's being held down for half year.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@Tarheel11 @AJ GuckianHard to say that. what determines a promotion in the minors. Sure the pitcher has to be successful, but for how long. THere isn't this set in stone time line... Hey if your good  for X starts you will be moved up. It's 100% different for each and every pitcher. 


So i don't think this kid is going to be Frustrated or Bitter because he has to start in AAA for 60 innings.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@AJ Guckian  Actually you might be right. For a lot of these kids, it may be their first exposure to the business side of baseball. For the most part as they are progressing through the minors, their future is dictated by them and their performance. And in this case it could be for the first time, not based on their performance but by business decisions. 

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@BringBackDaveTelghe @Mark Kelly@kenmetskniEven if they are in the thick of a race... What is 5-10 games... In the grand scheme of things that is what the SP would do... He's not going to go 10-0 or 5-0 or 8-0... Most likely he will struggle his first 2-3 starts. 

Calling up a young unproven pitcher shouldn't make or break out playoff chances. I mean you only see the Harvey's and Fernandez's every once in a while. 

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Mark Kelly @kenmetskni It makes sense, only if the team isn't expected to be in the thick of the race.  If a team is projected to win 88 to 90 games that extra one or two games you may win by having the young guy overrules keeping him in the minors.  We're obviously not in that situation.

Brenton Corriveau
Brenton Corriveau

Not to mention he still needs to work on his change and curve if he ever wants to be an ace. A ceiling we all hope he reaches

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Mark Kelly @kenmetskni  Very true! I'd much rather have that back end year when he's gained experience than the couple of months of starts this year. Does make good business sense