New, noteworthy moves for the Mets will likely come via trade

If the Mets make any other noteworthy moves this off season, they will likely come by trade and not free agency (Martino).

Sandy Alderson said the Mets still have up to four issues to address on the current roster this winter (Brender).

Michael Baron, Contributor

The free-agent market is expensive and saturated with overvalued players. That said, the Mets have anywhere between $17 to 20 million left to spend this winter, according to reports. In order to fill the remaining holes on the roster, the front office will have to cut some payroll or off-set a new acquisition by trading a notable contract. This is partly why the Mets might be looking to move Daniel MurphyIke Davis and/or Lucas Duda, since they will earn a combined $7-11 million next season.

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cmetsfan
cmetsfan

Oh no 7-11 million dollars!!! It's one thing to say you don't want to be the Bankees and buy a bunch of mercenaries. It's different to say you can't afford Dan Murphy and Ike or Duda because it's ten million bucks that might put you over 86 million if you add somebody. What is 86 million a superstitious number or a joke that we can't get over 86? Sorry if anyone said this already, it feels like a prank on the fans.

Rolando Pavon
Rolando Pavon

You hardly ever win a WS with a store bought team.  Development and trades are more important than free agency when it comes to building. 

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

Why can't they sign more FA's?  Whatever happened to making one more move to show the fan base you are interested in winning?  Oh wait, that's right, let's make one move to appease the fan base to shut them up.  Need to make more moves as i don't think the fans are convinced just yet.

willy
willy

Sign Kendrys Morales

Trade for Escobar..  (Ike ++)

Trade for Jeff Samardja.. (Duda ++ )


1-   CF

2-Murphy 2B

3-Wright 3B

4-Morales1B

5-Grandy LF

6-TDA C

7-Cyoung RF

8-Escobar.. 

9-Neise Wheeler Samardjza Gee Montero/Syndrgard..  


Mike Iannazzo
Mike Iannazzo

Trades are great... that is as long as you have quality Major Leaguers to trade.  Every team has AAA ball players, they dont need our AAA players, I mean major league talent.  3/4 of our team are AAA players at best, nobody wants our garbage, unless you throw in Wheeler, DeGroom, Montero, Noah, etc

William Ost
William Ost

I feel like every player on this team other then Wright and Granderson will be brought up in possible trade rumors this week. I just hope that the team does something to significantly upgrade there product on the field. They need another starting pitcher and at least one more big bat to show that they are moving forward and start to change this culture.

nyijkm
nyijkm

What is the possibility we sign Axford as closer and deal Parnell as a piece for a big bat with another prospect/current position player? 

nyijkm
nyijkm

How would you all feel about Michael Young? First of all I'm assuming for 1B, and how much money would he cost for a 1 year deal? Can he still hit? I know in Texas he was a real winner and veteran mentor to the young guys, a la Grandy & Wright. Can he stay healthy at this point? And would that be a platoon situation with Satin and Ike/Duda?


Just curious because his name has sorta faded from the hot stove lately, but last year him going to Philly was big news.

Dante Puzzuoli
Dante Puzzuoli

Contact A's about the availability of Cespedes... Contact Toronto on the availability of Edwin and Bautista...... We can and should trade Lagares while his values high. Plus he's hitting well in the DWL. Contact Tampa on the availability of Escobar and Helickson. Contact the Indians about Astrubal Cabrera... Sign Colon or Garza. Contact cubs and offer murph Montero for Samardzjia. We NNEEEEEEED to get Tejada out of SS and CANNOT have Duda starting at 1st.... Please no Duda or Tejada

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

The Mets with this ridiculously low payroll are hell bent on running in the black this year.  They have a big note, or two,  to roll over and their main priority is keeping the banksters happy. 

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

You know what amazes me more then anything is the arrogance of this ownership. They price tickets, parking, etc top of the market which is ok. The reason because they are in the largest market in sports but when it comes time to scratch our backs their fingers are broke.

Rob O'Rourke
Rob O'Rourke

Sign Hart to play 1B 2yrs 10mil a yr with a 3rd option .. 

Trade Ike for Escobar.. 

 Trade Murphy and some others for Jeff Samardja.. 

 Sign Choo to play RF 

 Put any of those guys in CF .. all are good fielders.. 

 Lagaraes is a 4th OF with his bat .. or trade his ass..

Choo gets 13-15mil for 4yrs.. no more.. Beltran got 15 a year and he has better stats.. so 15max..


Run out a legit team for next 3-4 yrs. this is a play off contender this year.. and a pennent winner in 2015 with Harvey.. Dump Cyoung maybe move up Puello or Lagaeras fulltime..tio bat 7th save 7mil .from Cyoung contract.. 

1-Eyjr 2B

2-Choo RF

3-Wright 3B

4-Hart 1B

5-Grandy LF

6-TDA C

7-Cyoung CF

8-Escobar.. 

9-Neise Wheeler Samardjza Gee Montero/Syndrgard..  

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

How they won't make any improvements via FA. It's clear.blah, blah...overvalued , overpriced. How come no other teams have this opinion? Listen I know we debated this earlier. I completely disagree with, after the promises made and the years of nothing, that this is how they are operating. Talking like an 85m dollar investment this year is acceptable. The Royals are going to be at 90m. These guys want to operate their business like this because they are afraid to lose money because it might force them to sell, because of all the loans they took out to put in an illegal business. Fine. I'm not going to pretend it's anything else

hankypanky
hankypanky

What does it mean when I punch "Like" and it turns into "Unlike"?

Sorry, but I'm in over my head.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Had the Mets not made the Granderson signing, they might as well have just closed down Citifield and played their games at Cyclones park next season.  Wouldn't need more seats than that.   The Mets were NEVER going to get Beltran, Choo or Cruz.  The rule specifically stipulates that if one other team has any interest in a ballplayer, he bypasses the Mets.  Beltran might have been in their price range, but he's no longer an NL ballplayer, the DH will prolong his career for another year or two, and the Yankees would have given him extra years/money just 'cause they're the Yankees.  Choo is asking for over $100M, no way they were going to sign him, and Cruz is out of their price range too.  Beggars can't be choosers.  

zootv
zootv

for all the value contracts we hear about on this site, why would the contributors not be condemning a potential trade of a second basemen who hits 40 doubles, double digit homers, and steals 23 bases at a 90% clip making a mere 5 million bucks?

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

I can't even read this anymore. I swear to god I'm two posts from shutting you guys off forever. I might as well read jay Horowitz

jasonbay
jasonbay

@willy We don't have a DH in the NL so we can't use Morales.


The Cubs don't need a first baseman, they have one who's better than any of ours.  In fact, we don't match up with them at all prospect wise.  So I don't think we're likely to get Jeff Samarzidfjeqefaf

OmegaThug
OmegaThug

Not realistic at all but it would be cool if it happened.

methead
methead

@Mike Iannazzo Ummm...thats exactly what will happen, if anything.   We will trade Ike who has value except to bitter Met fans and we will trade some of our minor league prospects.  My guess?   No major trade happens except unloading Ike.  But to get talent we have to give up some and if trading DeGroom and Montero means getting a top player in, please...send them packing.

OmegaThug
OmegaThug

I think it will be hard to deal Parnell after his injury late last season. I think he would definitely have been part of a package for a good player had he not gotten hurt.

methead
methead

@nyijkm Parnell's value is very low and we would be dealing a player for the sake of dealing him.  However, I am with you.  We should sign a true closer and Keep Parnell as a setup man.  If Parnell is good again, we can deal him then.  Him getting hurt was one of the worse things that happen to the Mets last season because his trade value disappeared.  He could have been in a package for a top player.

jjong
jjong

@nyijkm If what sandy said Conference is true and not a lie than expect no free agent reliever, but within the organization.  Another thing all of us observed is that relievers are like rollercoasters from year to year.    

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Hopefully posturing but if true it's just such a sad commentary to how pathetic this franchise is now.

nyijkm
nyijkm

@Ian Nolan I think Sandy may allocate that remaining 15 mill to players we trade for, who may cost much more in total than the guys we give up. Thats my best guess, besides one or two more very low level signings like a Feliciano or a Byrdak

Chris Fiorillo
Chris Fiorillo

@Ian Nolan If you spend money just because you can spend money, you will fail in the long term 


Unless youre the Yankees. 

davklotz
davklotz

Escobar= 8mil

Hart=13mil

Choo= 17.5mil

=40mil... we have 20

LastSaneMetsFan
LastSaneMetsFan

@fedupfan13 I understand your frustrations with the tight wads. But right now the Mets need a 1st basemen and a shortstop...in this free agent pool what stud are you signing? There is nothing to upgrade at those spots. And if you say Stephen Drew I might throw up a little. They'll have to trade for an upgrade in those spots. SS is the high priority for me as I know that we're stuck with either Duda or Davis next year. A Segura(dreaming), a Starling Castro, or a Nick Franklin SS/2B. And get me one innings eater and I'll be happy.

Joanie Yan
Joanie Yan

@fedupfan13 The 85 million dollar payroll in NYC is totally unacceptable. They  are operating like a small market team but have much more TV revenue coming in.

supert
supert

@hankypanky If you change your mind after you have already liked the comment you would push it again to unlike it.

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@Macacawitz and that may be the sadness to our reality as mets fans. how did it come to this? we are "beggers". it's BS. granderson isn't the worst signing in the world but it barely replaces byrd. how this organization crying poverty is paying chris young 7 million with all the holes needing filling is beyond me.

i get granderson is an acquisition meant to get uneducated fans (not you) excited, so some seats can actually be sold. but the mets are no better today than they were offensively last year because of it and SS, 1B, and 1OF spot is still empty with little budget room left.

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

They are juggling the payroll. They figure they could move EY there save 4m and use it for pitching

denelor
denelor

@zootv This.  Go ahead and trade Murphy, but it needs to significantly improve the team somewhere else because trading Murphy means that second base goes from being a position of strength for this team to one of weakness. 

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@Chris Fiorillo If you put fannys in the seats with names that draw, maybe the product nets money to spend on contention. Baby steps. 

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

@Chris Fiorillo Or do nothing?  Sign one player to shut us up but don't make any more moves, right?  This team needs a lot of help.

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

Nothing wrong with Drew. It's not that they don't like the free agents so they are going for trades I would have no problem with that. It's the fact that they like Drew and they loved PerLta, I didn't, but they won't get them bec of an 85m or so budget that bothers me.

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

Yeah it's our job to buy Jeff Wilpon the. Mets. F that

LastSaneMetsFan
LastSaneMetsFan

@ton

To say that Byrd equals Granderson production wise is ridiculous.

They are not remotely close to being on the same level. Compare their stats. How many 100 RBI seasons has Byrd had? Answer 0

How many 100 run seasons has he had? Answer 0 How many 20sb seasons has he had? Answer 0 How many seasons has he had a plus 4 WAR? Answer 1 Now go checkout Granderson's stats he destroys Byrd. I understand that Granderson is not going to hit for a high average and he strikes out a lot but other than that he's a beast. He'll be a plus defender in left and he'll give us 30-35 HR's (yeah I said it) 100 RBI 25SB. And he'll walk. Now I understand we're all tired of these nickle and diming cheap blankety blank owners. But this was a good signing.

Secondly when they signed Young I flipped out...screaming and cursing. I thought it was a horrendous signing. A 200 hitter? Are you kidding me after all your talk of improving the team, you bring me this? But then I looked at his career stats and every time he had 500 AB's he had 25 HR's 25 SB with strong walk totals and a 4-5WAR albeit a 250 batting average. Last year we had one of the most brutal outfields ever assembled. Unwatchable. Negative WARs all around minus Byrd and the mid season addition of Lagares. We could likely have an outfield of plus 4 WAR at the corners and a 5 or 6 WAR in center...that's a massive upgrade. Now I've resigned myself to a subpar 1st base situation but if they go out and trade for a SS and sign an innings eater we could have a team that's built around (future) pitching, some pop, speed and defense. Playing well to our ballpark. Works not done but things are improving. Maybe not the improvement we want but they are improvements.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@ton Well it all started when our glorious owners lost a half-billion playing three card monte.  It's been straight down hill since.  Given the ticket prices, the payroll should be about $100M.  This austerity budget is a result of abject greed and stupidity.  The fans shouldn't be the ones paying the price for this completely unacceptable set of circumstances.

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

I replied to you but it put it up top.

niesesnose
niesesnose

@Rob O'Rourke @Chris Fiorillo Escobar for Ike would never happen. Unless you wanna throw In Montero and murphy for samardjiza (not worth it imo) and we prob cant afford choo