Daniel Murphy walks to the plate

Mets are not shopping Murphy, sides have not talked extension

The Mets are not actively looking to trade 2B Daniel Murphy, Mets GM Sandy Alderson told beat reporter Mike Puma (NY Post, July 18).

“That situation will resolve itself over time,” he added.

It was recently reported that the Blue Jays and Giants, among others teams, will have interest in Murphy, according to columnist Andy Martino (Daily News, June 23). The Mets were reportedly open to trading him this past off season, but the asking price was ‘substantial,’ according to people who checked in on him (Rubin, Dec. 11).



10:05 am: Murphy says the Mets have not talked to his agent about a contract extension (Newsday, July 18).

“I think that anybody would be willing to listen to an extension,” Murphy said.

Murphy, 29, is expected to earn around $9 million through salary arbitration in 2015, after which he can become a free agent.

According to MLB Trade Rumors, based on his position, age and stats, Murphy is likely due a four- or five-year contract extension worth around $12 million per season (MLBTR, June 26).




162 comments
Russ Sullivan
Russ Sullivan

They need to keep murph. Other then wright he's the backbone of these team and has been loyal from day 1. Even when they made him chAnge positions 100 times. Now that he's an all star finally he needs to be rewarded. Give the guy like a 7 year deal please

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

Value will never be higher. If you get your asking price, you trade him. Its a no brainer! There are so many guys in this system who can play 2B and Murphy is not part of the long-term plan for this team. Better get something for him be for they let him walk for nothing like they did with Reyes

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

Here's Murphy's career stats, for those who THINK he's god's gift to 2nd baseman

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda08.shtml


He's not a consistent .300 hitter as someone mentioned, he's done it once. He has hit 10 or more HR twice. Yes he's one of the best hitter's on a TERRIBLE hitting team but that's not saying much


LOL at he's fiery. Plays hard  SMH  He shouldnt be commended for that it should be the norm, they're getting paid good money to play a kids game


For those stats and someone who has a below average glove, is a terrible base runner and will be on the wrong side of 30 I wouldn't pay him 12 or 9 million.


Trade him while he's at his highest value and not making big money. Get a  big bat, more trade chips to get a big bat and $ flexibility 



Dan Bahr
Dan Bahr

“That situation will resolve itself over time,” 

Another statement that means nothing from SA. 

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

CC out for year --Just confirmed ---LOVE IT!!! Sorry Yankees!!! LOL

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Notable Notes:

  • 5 teams (NYY, DET, SF, BOS, PHI) have more dollars allocated to their starting pitching than the Marlins have in total payroll.
  • Felix Hernandez ($22,857,142) accounts for 70% of the Mariners' starting pitching dollars.
  • The Dodgers have almost $58M allocated to their disabled list to start the year.
  • Staying true to form, the Oakland A's have the most balanced positional payroll in baseball
  • Only 50% of MLB teams have a payroll north of $100M.
  • The Marlins are spendiing $3.92M on their 5 starting pitchers, an average of $638,400 per pitcher.

METS: 2014 start of season...

Disabled List   Rotation      Bullpen       Infielders         Outfielders        2014 Payroll

$5,656,625      $13,647,050  $7,769,300   $29,113,709    $24,782,181       $96,554,970

The most interesting comment was the best team in MLB --OAKLAND  have the most balanced positional payroll in baseball. They find great values.

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Dan Uggla Released by Atlanta (ATL) Atlanta Braves 2nd Base. It will be interesting to see if anyone picks Uggla up for $500,000. PPPPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SANDY! Don't even think about it. No more lightning in a bottle CY deals.

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Here is the list of average salaries per year for 2B's:

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/mlb/average/2nd-base/limit-25/


Currently where you rank Murphy in production? Number what?  I have to put Murphy in the 8-10 ranking neighborhood. 

Dan Uggla really distorts this rankings list. He shouldn't even be taking up a spot at this point.  So I have to say Murphy should be in average $8-$9 million neighborhood area.


So asking Danny Boy to take a home team discount of $7 million per year and giving him 4 years sets him up for life with the new baby and maybe he takes it. 


JasonMiles
JasonMiles

Goodbye Danny Boy. You worked hard to become a good ballplayer. Now because of the cheap ass Wilpons and Sandy " Mr Prospect" Alderson,you won't be around too much longer

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

We are in a NY Market. We are supposed to be able to hang onto players that reach arb years. I do understand that $12 million for Murphy is not worth the value he provides in relation to a Flores or Herrara at MLB minimum. 

Murphy is better than them now. You are always going to have players coming arb eligible and can't continue to get rid of them w/o a definite back-up.  Murphy is considered by many within top 10 second baseman in MLB. There are not many 300 hitters at 2b that are lefty. Defense is average --yes-- but we have other areas to upgrade. 


Offer Murphy now 4 yrs 28 million. $7 mil per year.  You're getting rid of CY at $7.25 and Colon at $9 this year and $11 next year will be gone soon. Just don't give him a NO TRADE so if the other guys develop fast you can get rid of Murphy. You can even structure the $28 contract $5 -$6- $8- $9 if you need another couple of years for pitching to develop and climb out from Bernie mess.

grillruben
grillruben

Murphy can hit very well and if you surround him with better bats he will only produce more. He can also play third base if we ever choose to move Wright. Lock the dude up! On a team with so many offensive question marks, Murphy is part of the solution.


If Herrera is really that legit we will have a hot 2b prospect and a .300 hitting 2b/3b in his prime. Not really an issue.

archer41
archer41

I like Murph, but I'm disinclined to extend him for 4+ years.  If he's going to earn $9 next season, that means any extension is in the $11M-$13M range.  $44M-$52M is a lot of scratch for a player like Murphy.  He's an all-star in name only.  That said, I'd prefer that he be traded in the offseason and allow this team the opportunity to make a run.  

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Meija said Mets are going to the Playoffs this year.

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

Enjoy the last two weeks of Daniel Murphy in a mets uniform. If gee pitches well in his next 2-3 starts he will be gone too. Especially if we don't finish this road trip with winning every series

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

Seems like a lot of people here are in favor of keeping Murphy ( a glorified singles hitter) who has a below average glove and no instincts on the bases at the kind of money and into his 30's???


To me it's time to reallocate assets( money and trade chips) and put faith in some kids

mets2891
mets2891

He's gone, the Wilpons simply aren't going to pay him.

frankpdeeg
frankpdeeg

I think most GMs are preferring the negotiations to wait until after the season.  I feel like it allows you to hold all your cards so you don't end up looking like a rat in the end.  Say the Mets start negotiating with Murph but then a team comes in the next couple of weeks with an offer they cannot refuse.  The Mets look terrible.  


I think as a GM, it'd be wise to leave all negotiations until season end, just in case. 

Eamon Carty
Eamon Carty

Here's shut your mouth born2 u make no sense.

Murphy puts works hard every day. Trains for next game gets better and better and I'm thrilled like every true mets fan he is a fan favorite just because of his dedication.

So for born2 fish 74 Ur not a beliver so get off this page and go talk crap about another falling ny team the tanks

And yah the tanks #metstakingover

Sean Matrai
Sean Matrai

@Born2Fish74 The Mets have been hitting a lot better of late.


Yes Murphy has been inconsistent over the years which has me concerned. This year however all of numbers are up. 


There are two sides of the story.


A. Trade Murphy to a contender,and get a decent package back, maybe a top prospect considering he is under control until the end of 2015


B. Sign him, and hope he produces like he has for years to come.



I would be more prone to keeping him, because it shows the Mets willingness to put a winning product on the field, also you cant keep dealing for prospects.  I would only trade him if we get a top prospect at ss possibly back, or a piece in a deal for a young productive hitter( Stanton, or Tulo(not sure if we should be dealing for him anyway).

lholztrio
lholztrio

@Born2Fish74 Yeah!  Brilliant.  Pay Grandy (an Albatross scheduled to emerge in 2015) who strikes out 175 times per season, bats .230, has no arm and mediocre defender 15 million a year but skimp on a solid offensive 2nd baseman.  What has happened to common sense and logic?

Sean Matrai
Sean Matrai

@imjimmybx calm down with the Omar Minaya riding.


First of all Omar wasn't the greatest gm. He believed in dumping the future for now, and if you want that refer to Brian Cashman,and Rueben Amaro.


What Omar has over those guys is that he was a excellent talent evaluator.


De Grom, Harvey, Murphy, Flores, Gomez(brewers), Familla,and Mejjia.


However he was a solid gm that did put a contender on the field.



going on "Balderson"  isn't the best gm either, however we are in a rebuilding process which some mets fans need to understand.  Despite my disagreements to his moneyball philosophy, he has made some incredible trades that the Mets have won.


ex Beltran-Wheeler(Clear win for the mets)



ex R.A Dickey, Josh Thole,and Mike Nickeas for Noah Syndergaard(Thor), Travis D'arnaud(most notable players in the deal) (win for the Mets d'arnaud is starting to show why)



Marlin Byrd,and John Buck, for Dilson Herrera,and Vic Black.(black has become a solid reliever,and herrera is having a incredible year in the farm)


i'm not a sandy rider, but i don't think its neccesarily fair to make him out to be the "all evil"



For_Sale
For_Sale

@imjimmybx Relax with the speak english thing buddy.  It is irrelevant.  Unless he is teaching you english, try not to sound like an ignorant racist.

lholztrio
lholztrio

@2ndhalffun why short change Murph?  Give the man market value.  A NY team should be able to pay a home grown player who has proved he can be successful in NY, market value.  Geez!  is it your money?  Do you think the cheapos will make the team better or just sign more Grandersons and C. Youngs?

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Here is an example of the ultimate Home Team discount:  Evan Longoria at 3rd Base $2,916,667  

There are people who will take less to stay where they are. Murphy does not seem to have "Cano" in him where he needs to max out. If I was guaranteed $28 million over 4 years I am taking it--maybe would too. Murphy has stated that teh Mets haven't even approached him yet so that is NOT a good sign. If the Mets really wanted --or should I say could afford---to keep him they should have at least made some type of home team discount offer by now. This way they know where they stand before trading deadline.


lholztrio
lholztrio

@JasonMiles sends a great message to the fans and the rest of the team!  Alderfraud and his gang have to go!

anymos
anymos

@2ndhalffun Not sure what relevance being in a NY market has if our owners can't afford a $90M payroll.  In a perfect world, yes, you extend Murph and then let the prospects play determine who replaces him a couple of years down the road, at which point hopefully Murph is still productive and has trade value.  But its not a perfect world.

And if you are going to offer an extension, its going to be more than an avg of $7M per year- figure $10-12 a year assuming a second half similar to his first.

John Schod
John Schod

@Michael Portanova  How does the worst offensive team in the league get rid of its most consistent hitter? Which one of these guys will be a proven top ten in hits, doubles, etc.? Unfortunately, as Mets fans, we have been conditioned to "pray for tomorrow." How did Tejada instead of Reyes work out...almost as well as Pagan for nobody!

helloboy
helloboy

@Michael Portanova Why do people say he has a "fiery attitude".  i have never seen this out of him.  He is a constant professional, but i do not think of him as fiery.  I can't remember the last time he even got close to get kicking out of a game.  Problem is NOBODY here has a true fiery attitude. 


Mind you there is nothing wrong with being a pros pro, but when you think fiery you have to think Reyes or Puig type.

helloboy
helloboy

@Dave D'Agnese If Gee is gone that means they were buyers.  Gee is not being sold.  So if the Mets do not do well on the road trip, he would not be gone. 


In other news, I do not think your assessment is correct.  The rules do not change.  They will be more than happy with a .500 road trip.

John Schod
John Schod

@Born2Fish74  Is this a synonym for a consistent .300 hitter who plays hard every game? Maybe if we had more Daniel Murphy's, then we wouldn't be spending every August hoping for something better next year!

semperfi
semperfi

@Born2Fish74 agree 100%, love Murphy but not at that kind of $, 5 year and $40 mill would be to much for a poor fielding 2B and his bat is good for 2B but not for 1B or 3B where he is more serviceable from a defensive stand point. Murphy is a much better value in the AL because of the DH and the fact that he can play 3 IF positions, Flores, Reynolds and Herrera are all 2B options as is Tejada if we made a major upgrade at SS.  

Kyle Suta
Kyle Suta

Or they will overpay him like wright and use that as an excuse to reduce the payroll next year.

frankpdeeg
frankpdeeg

@mets2death Sandy has done exactly what the Wilpon have wanted.  Acquire young talent and keep the salaries low.  There's absolutely no reason to think they want extend him... unless he's looking to bigger and better things... Commish Alderson

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@mets2death He has an option for next year. I'd be shocked if the Wilpons didn't pick it up, if not sign him to an extension.

For_Sale
For_Sale

@2ndhalffun Its not so much a home team discount as the Rays bought out his years of arbitration, and in return guaranteed him money that he may never have realized.  A little knowledge can be dangerous.

anymos
anymos

@John Schod We didn't let Reyes go because we had Tejada.  We let Reyes go because the Marlins offered an absurd contract that we couldn't match.  We should have traded him instead of letting him walk- but if we matched or beat that offer and Reyes performed like has to date under that deal, people on this blog would be killing him and Alderson.  And before anyone says 'he's been injured,' injuries with Jose are part of the reason you don't offer him long term, backloaded contract like that.

anymos
anymos

@helloboy @Michael Portanova We don't need fiert attitudes.  We need hitters.  Olerud, Piazza, Fonzie- all as laid back as can be, and all of them could flat out hit.

Kyle Suta
Kyle Suta

We should really sweep the padres but I'll take 2/3. Seattle isn't that great but we may lose 2 out of 3. I want 3/4 from the slumping brewers though.

anymos
anymos

@John Schod @Born2Fish74 I like Murph, but how is he a consistent .300 hitter when he's never hit .300 over a full season?  And this year, people were killing David for his performance (which it turns out was impacted by playing most of June with an injured shoulder) and his numbers are on par or maybe slightly better than what Murph has produced.

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

@mets2death They can get just decent for A LOT cheaper, have another asset to trade and more money to move. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

@anymos @John Schod @Born2Fish74 Wright is one of the best players in baseball. Murphy is one of the best hitters for a 2B. People are just hard on Wright because of the decade of expecting excellence.

frankpdeeg
frankpdeeg

@nymetsrule @frankpdeeg @mets2death Well it's not about taking the commish role, it's about being selected, in which he is NOT the front runner.  But be sure he would not turn it down.  Bud Selig was 63 when he took the job.  Sandy would be 67-68.  Not that much difference. 

anymos
anymos

@mets2death Sandy doesn't care how his moves are received.  He's doing what he thinks is best for the club given the hand he's been dealt by the owners.