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Montero to the minors, Dice-K to get start Wednesday

The Mets announced on Saturday that Daisuke Matsuzaka will get the start on Wednesday in Chicago.

Matsuzaka, who made a spot start last Sunday pitching six innings in a win over the Diamondbacks, will replace Rafael Montero in the rotation. Montero was sent down to Las Vegas after giving up seven hits and four runs, three earned, in 3 2/3 innings against the Phillies on Friday.  Buddy Carlyle, the 36-year old veteran reliever, will be added to the bullpen in place of Montero.

Matuzaka is 2-0 with a 2.54 ERA in 16 appearances, one start, for the Mets in 2014.




98 comments
Joseph Kajtazi
Joseph Kajtazi

I like montero but i think it was the right move. He needs to go down and work on his secondary pitches cause right now he looks like a two pitch guy. Dont think hes mlb ready just yet. Degrom seems a bit more polished

Michael Kemp
Michael Kemp

Montero is just a bust not a frontline starter at all and safe to say Zach is ok 5 starter so that all we have from there nothing going to change blv it or not..but I do like degrom I think that kid is special he going to be something good if they don't mess him up..Harvey,degrom,niese,gee and if they call steve matz up they will be real good..Montero should try to be a reliever he probably excel in that role and zack can be a back of the rotation guy..but if I was the mets trade zack,Montero,travis for a big bat if u can get one//and call up kevin the catcher from the minors

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

Speaking of the minors..anyone taking notice that the 51s have lost 8 of their last 10

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

I am not surprised by the decision, nor am I upset by it. Dice-K has shown everyone that he isn't done yet & has quite a bit left in the tank. I wonder if the historically good start by Tanaka across town has reinvigorated Dice-K. I wouldn't be surprised, especially since Japanese ball players are notoriously competitive. Nevertheless, the issue at hand is Montero more than it is Dice-K. Montero is still young at 23, so he has a lot of time to bounce back from this. His future is with the big club, right in the middle of a rotation that will hopefully anchor a championship team that is regularly in contention. However, fans & the Mets should be concerned & keep a close eye on how he handles his demotion. He was demoted, no way around it. Gee is still out & Montero would still have a spot in the rotation had he been successful. Sometimes young pitchers take a demotion as a failure & teams lose that pitcher forever. Sometimes players take the demotion as a challenge & tend to "over-pitch" in the minors & wind up getting injured. What Montero needs to do is go down there & keep doing what he was doing before his promotion. I think he abandoned his "game" when he came up here. He needs to get back to hitting the corners & keeping the ball down. When he was up here, too often he was keeping the ball up & was catching too much of the plate. You can get by with that a little at AAA, but not in the majors, especially with a fastball that tops out only at 92-93 MPH. I never thought I would say this, but Montero should pick the brain of Dillon Gee & learn how to get by without a dominant fastball.

The one issue I have is that I hope the Mets didn't expose Montero when he was up here. He was highly touted & was widely viewed as a front of the rotation pitcher. I'm not sure he is viewed as that anymore. At least in the immediate future, Montero has lost some of his trade value. If the Mets were planning on having him as part of a package to land a big hitter, then they probably would have been better off leaving him at AAA & allow teams to trade for the legend of Rafael Montero. Well, hindsight is 20/20 & I am sure the brass thought he would come up here, pitch well, and force is way into the rotation as a regular. Instead, it has been Jacob deGrom who has done that. The kid has been nothing short of spectacular. Next up will be Noah Syndergaard & I just hope he will follow in deGrom's footsteps & not Montero's.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

If Degrom pulled something today, maybe Montero returns.


They need to coach Montero, wherever they put him. Somehow Degrom's putting it together, though Terry better not wring him dry and then blame second time through the league.

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

If Dice-K pitches well, they should trade him immediately after his outing...

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

de Grom is really good..if Hefner and Harvey make it back plus Wheeler Gee,Niese ?...........Syndergaard ...Colon and Montero? 9 starters?

theglider
theglider

I guess everyone is out today.

theglider
theglider

Just tuning in. 3-0? Let me guess. Tejada hit one out, right?

rico
rico

Mets had to call up another arm since everybody pitched last night, so sending montero out for a week or maybe more was not a bad move, since he won't start for another 5 days anyways.

Richard Jones
Richard Jones

I like Montero but I think it was the right move. Montero command hasn't been as good this year as it was last year, even before he was called up. It give him a chance to go back to the minors to work on it.
It also gives them a chance to show off Matsuzaka. The Mets will have a backlog of pitchers when Syndergaard is ready. Matsuzaka could be a strong piece to a trade at the deadline.


ponzies86
ponzies86

When Gee comes back I hope Dice k is sent back to the pen and Degrom not

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

Good manager --he takes his touted rookie and protects him by batting him 2nd(Springer)


Worse manager-- he takes his touted rookies and never plays them or when he does he protects them by batting them 8th in front of Batolo colon.

Can we please fire Collins already--what has he ever won to deserve being the manager of our team?  He stinks!

ponzies86
ponzies86

Montero problem is That he throw too much fastballs, I hope he can work more on his secondary pitches

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

Maybe one of the starters gets traded for a hitter and Montero comes back up into the rotation?

legs3
legs3

Travis gets a pass because the pitching staff and management like his D, but why is CY, Duda & Grandy getting passes.  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Grandy & Duda should never face a tough LH'er.  They are so over matched it's sickening to watch as pro  players.

marcbklyn
marcbklyn

Do people here just not understand that the bullpen needs a fresh arm tonight an demoting Montero is the most logical move. What if de Grom gets food poisoning or steps on something and sprains his ankle in the first? After Montero's early exit and the extra innings, they need a live arm. This is a short term move, not a comment on Montero's abilities in the long run.

nagel100
nagel100

Montero did not look like a "strike throwing machine"   to me.   he topped out at 92-93 and his secondary pitches looked underdeveloped.


he was not cutting it so AAA is fine.  in fact,  he could be part of a deal.  Montero, Flores and Duda should all be moved.

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

Bring up Pawlecki, Dykstra and Captain Kirk or Puello please.  oh  and fire collins.   Any manager who does not know that hit and run is a legal play in baseball does not deserve being a manager.  



Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@Michael Kemp  Degrom let a 3 run homer as well....does that mean he's a bust.  Montero is a front line pitcher, just needs a bit of seasoning and a good tudor to help him understand pitching in the big leagues and he'll be fine.  Dude you are way off base on this comment.  Travis is here to stay and he will begin to produce for the club...just have to be patient, hence CARLOS GOMEZ.  Took a few years before he blossomed.

Joel Romain
Joel Romain

@Michael Kemp Montero has made 4 starters in the majors and now he's considered a "bust" lmao. Thank god you don't work for the Mets or any MLB team.

jenkins
jenkins

@Michael Kemp Montero needs to stop nibbling, get ahead of hitters , and he'll be fine.

wingo43
wingo43

DiceK also pitched well at the end of last year after he made an adjustment suggested by Warthen, so I don't think it has anything to do with Tanaka.

Also, I don't think Montero was "exposed" such that his market value is significantly diminished. My sense is that teams view him as a tier 1b or 2 type pitcher. He was never going to bring back a strong bat/position player by himself. I would like to see what happens the next time he comes back up before I start drawing any conclusions. That said, I too suspect that he may be well-suited as a reliever.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@Albert E Lewis Maybe Hefner can be the long man next year. Teach him one of those wacky Tanaka splitter things, since their deliveries are a little similar, and maybe he can cry on the ball for some extra action too.

steve333
steve333

@Albert E Lewis


How about trading one starter for Xander Boegerts now that the Red Sox signed Drew?

theglider
theglider

The difference is Springer is hitting. Which if our rookies has ever hit? They've been batted second, fifth, sixth. Who has hit?

marcbklyn
marcbklyn

@William Potts Even if you wanted to swap him with Matsuzaka, he couldn't pitch today. They need someone in the pen today. Either they send Black down and use Dice-K (for a few batters) and a call-up in the pen today or they send out Montero and just have the call-up. They chose the latter. It was a reasonable move in the short term. In the long term, Montero is more valuable as a fourth starter than a setup man/middle reliever, so he needs to work on his control. He'll be back in a month or two either in the back of the rotation or on the pen.

hankypanky
hankypanky

And get bombed, like in his last outing?

jnuce
jnuce

Not enough work for him with black familia and mejia

hankypanky
hankypanky

Do you really think that a catcher who gives up passed balls, errant throws and stolen bases is admired for his D? I doubt it. And I doubt anyone in the organization is going to admit it publicly.

hankypanky
hankypanky

They don't want to understand it. They want the FO to go with their personal agenda.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@nagel100 Duda should be released, Flores should start every day and Montero should pitch.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Hard to play hit and run when so few players hit.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@George Komninakis I'm all for switching mangers, but they other guys I don't need to see.  Kirk stinks, Puello isn't ready, Dykstra isn't a prospect and Pawlecki isn't nearly ready. 

jnuce
jnuce

Hard to hit and run when you strike out so much

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

Trade one guy for Xander Boegarts? More like trading Montero AND Syndergaard AND Nimmo or Dominic Smith. Boegarts was widely considered the 1st or 2nd best prospect in baseball & he plays a position where there is a dearth of talent. He's not coming here for anything short of a king's ransom. Plus, Drew was signed for a 1 year, $10 million ($14.1 million prorated) deal; Boegarts is the future, Drew is here to play a utility role for one year.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have Boegarts, but it would completely wipe out our farm system to get him when we have a lot of holes to fill. This is what bothers me about many fellow Mets fans. Many of you guys think our players & prospects are far better than they really are. Fans of every team tend to overvalue that team's guys, but Met fans are much worse than others. Why don't we just trade Montero & Murphy to land Mike Trout? Maybe Scott Rice straight up for Clayton Kershaw? C'mon guys. It's ridiculous at times. Other teams don't want our failures or the guys we are willing to give up. In order for us to land a really good player or prospect, we are going to have to give up a player or prospect or two that we don't want to give up. Why don't we want to lose these guys? It's because they are either good or we think they will be good. If we want something good we are going to have to give up something good in either hundreds of millions of dollars or players.

Here is where the Mets stand with regards to SS... Other teams know that it is a position the Mets are trying desperately to upgrade. Sandy Alderson has made it abundantly clear that it is one of the Mets' biggest holes. There are some guys out there that could be obtained via trade. They include Franklin from the M's; Owings & Gregorious from the D-Backs; and to a lesser possibility, Baez from the Cubs; and Boegarts from the Sox. Knowing how bad the Mets want a better SS, once Sandy calls the GM of any of the aforementioned teams regarding any of the aforementioned players, the first thing that GM is going to say is, "Noah Syndergaard or no deal." Sandy has made it abundantly clear that Syndergaard is untouchable in any trade; he is a key part of the Mets' future. For some reason unbeknownst to me, Sandy values starting pitchers - who will play in 38-39 games each year - over solid position players - who will play in 160-162 games each year. What happens here is an old fashioned stalemate & thus far no possible trade partner has budged & I don't think they will (I wouldn't if I was them). No matter of good Tejada plays over a hot streak, he is not a MLB starting SS & never will be. The Mets will never be in a superior negotiating position with these teams. Either Sandy needs to give in or he needs to pony up some money this offseason & sign a guy like Hanley Ramirez for 7 years, $200 million. The latter is very unlikely to happen, so we might as well get used to seeing Tejada give his best imitation of a professional SS. In my opinion, Sandy should cough up the money for a guy like Ramirez as a free agent. Otherwise, the only guy I would consider moving Syndergaard for is Baez of the Cubs. He is the real deal & is going to be a superstar. Nevertheless, just like Boegarts, Baez is likely to cost much more than just Syndergaard; he's likely to cost another pitching prospect, maybe even Gee, and a position prospect. That would be a fair trade because that is the value of our guys.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@theglider Flores did hit last year went Wright went down, until Flores messed up his ankle stumbling on third.

Al Messenger
Al Messenger

@Jaime @Victor Triguero @hankypanky I agree, but at some point he needs to show that he can hit in the majors. Kevin Plawecki is tearing it up at Binghamton. I expect he'll get promoted to Vegas sometime next month. Then the clock starts on Travis. Plawecki is going to be our catcher of the future, not d'Arnaud. If he starts hitting, then we will have a great problem on our hands.

zingzangzo
zingzangzo

If I were management send d'naurd down to see if he can bulk up some and find some power in his bat then if so send him up the beginning of next season. If that don't work use him as a trade chip to upgrade our shortstop at a triple A level guy being considered. I'd like to see him get sent down and Plawicki up to Citi to actually have some decent competition for the catchers spots, with some power we need now there, ever since we lost John Buck. That is already water under the Shea Bridge though!! Let's Go Met's!!