Montero

Montero and deGrom will make starts this week

Mets rookie starting pitchers Rafeal Montero and Jacob deGrom will each start next week, as opposed to skipping someone with Monday’s off day, Terry Collins told reporters on Friday.

“If they’re comfortable, I want to run them back out there,” said Collins. “I don’t want to give them too much time off to where now they get back out there and everything seems strange.”

DeGrom pitched seven innings and let up one run in his big-league debut against the Yankees on Wednesday. Montero let up three runs in six innings in his debut the night before.

“There will be a lot of discussion about, ‘OK, who’s it going to be? Who’s going to be the fifth guy?’” Collins said about his rotation when Dillon Gee returns from the disabled list in a couple of weeks. “It will be fun, because they’re both very, very talented.”




104 comments
stage52
stage52

Are there better starters than these 2 right now ?  The answer is a flat no and you do not have to be a Rocket Scientist to figure that out.. Terry.

ejsch
ejsch

starting to worry about terry's mental health may have alhimers

Jaylee Jordan
Jaylee Jordan

Watch Terry choose the one who does worse for the rotation... -___- #whereswally

jersymick
jersymick

who tells who throughout the whole team what type of talent we have a AAA? And whoever that person is or people, why did they not have either of these two rookies in the starting rotation from the beginning of the season. Its only been 40 games and they look pretty solid.were they that bad in spring training or last season? Marlins premoted AA pitcher to start, yet the Mets paid 20 million for an overweight 40 year old pitcher that we're now stuck with for two seasons. I just don't get it.I just don't see them wasting all that money on pitcher when we're supposed to be stacked with pitching Talent, and obviously are, why that money could be spent on an absolute guaranteed bat.

Rusty Ivanko
Rusty Ivanko

dont worry about sandy alderson, hes doing amazing so far. need fix bullpens and fired hitting coach and we r good to go.

Dean Austin
Dean Austin

If they are comfortable Terry? Really? These guys want to take the ball. You don't want to sit them to long? What about sitting Lagares and Flores too long? Not concerned about that? 

rodd
rodd

WHY IS GRANDERSON BATTING 4TH? OR 5TH OR 6TH OR 7th BAT 9TH!

Zach14
Zach14

Let's take the next two. Gotta score some runs. Let's Go Mets!

rodd
rodd

Look what about Granderson!, Wright has no back up any more! Granderson can't hit any more, over a month and a half he's still hitting under 200! Let him bat 8th until he can hit better, if he ever does! Make some trades if this team doesn't hit any better. You may lose money in the beginning, but you'll make  money in the long run when fans keep coming back with good hitters. 

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

Any one interested in Dusty Baker as a manager for the Mets?  The Mets don't have enough vets for Baker's liking, and Baker isn't a great post season manager, but..interesting at all?

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

If you haven't seen it ESPN did a quick analysis of Lagares' batting the last 15 days or so.


http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/86827/espn-stats-breaks-down-lagares-at-plate?ex_cid=espnapi_public


Here's what i see:  The Mets as an ORG are committed to this hitting philosophy more than they are committed to the hitters.  Looking at this analysis, it would seem Lagares' style flies in complete contradiction to this hitting philosophy.  Not only does he frequently swing at pitches out of the zone, but he doesn't get hits when he does (0 for his last 21 connections outside of the zone?)  That, plus lagares being 5-27 in his last 11 games has him in the dog house.  


I don't agree with the benching, nor do I agree with the hitting philosophy, just adding a little perspective.

Mark Kohn
Mark Kohn

Reading all these stupid, idiotic comments is the real reason why Met fans are the laughing stock of baseball.

slainte2
slainte2

all managerial screwups so far are just like a red light siren warning for the worse screwups that are coming ... while lagares is nice player, and flores maybe can be nice hitter, bigger problem is handling the young pitching coming, which can be special ...

concerned that this team is going to screwup the young pitching by throwing them in bullpen without a plan. talk cardinals all you want, but this guy will mismanage them in bullpen, burn some out, ignore some others, confuse everyone. he already took dice k, who was pitching lights out in spring and then in vegas, and reduced him to a moderately effective, sporadically used, middle relief pitcher.

my bet ... gee comes back and montero goes to pen. eventually noah comes up and degrom goes to pen. they will be up and down everyday warming up, pitching inning here or there with no consistency, no logic, no plan ... best case scenario, they just waste the rest of their year, neglect secondary pitches (not used in the 1 inning outings) and delay development. worst case they damage themselves.

this is like a replay of an accident in slow motion, you see it coming, but can't stop it.

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

It's time to run Wilmer out there everyday.  Sure Ruben has played better of late but his offensive ceiling is so low and this team desperately needs offensive players.  Flores will make errors but we need to see if he can hit.  If he does, then maybe eventually he can be moved to 1B or elsewhere.  It's time to find out.  We know what Ruben can do.  Hit .240 or so with a lot of weak singles.

ron3d2y
ron3d2y

Nobody in baseball would have ever given this guy a job to begin with as manager. So he would do anything to keep the job should he get one. He will do whatever Sandy tells him to and he will never be fired as long as Sandy is here.


I've been putting up with him till now, but this Lagares stuff alone is starting to make me stop watching every game sooner than ever before. Never have I seen a manager alone be the cause of that. Literally everyone in baseball says Lagares should be starting, not just us fans. Collins is the only who doesn't and its clear Sandy is forcing him to start CY instead cause he's paying him such a huge amount of money which he earned from his amazing year last season with the A's. It's either that or Collins really is that dumb. We are playing all these games without our best possible lineup, which is EY/CY platooning in left and Lagares in center.


He says he starts CY for offense, but Lagares has been way better than him all year offensively. Lagares has a couple days where he cools off a little and he gets instantly benched for CY? You can't make this stuff up... something is not right here. I just worry what Collins is going to do to ruin all these great young pitchers, the bullpen is the worst place for any of them when Collins is in charge of it.

Daryl
Daryl

It's Rafael, jeeze. Sometimes I think saz runs this site with all of the misspellings.

lindro88
lindro88

Only thing dumber than TC's comments, are the hundreds of identical comments by people on this site.

hashburry
hashburry

The sad thing is it appears the Mets have no plan.  It's nice to see that more than 25% into the season, they have no idea who has what role in the bullpen, they are still messing around with OF starters, and they don't have an everyday SS or first baseman.  And the manager sounds senile and defensive and the GM constantly talks about how the roster that he put together isn't very good, acting as if someone else signed the 3 bums (Young, Colon, Granderson) and all the trash in the pen.  Another throw away season.

The Feels band
The Feels band

I've never wanted to scream as a Mets fan. But I seriously want to scream about this Juan Lagares stuff. 

fhc1224
fhc1224

“If they’re comfortable, I want to run them back out there,” said Collins. “I don’t want to give them too much time off to where now they get back out there and everything seems strange.”  guess that only works for young pitchers because it sure as hell doesn't mean anything for Lagarse or Flores

Matthew Truscello
Matthew Truscello

Both looked great.... looking forward to their next starts 

C Nerrie
C Nerrie

Chronicling "late game failures." "Bad when games are on the line."  Do you have anything more precise? Spelletrader reports he's batting .304 with risp - presumably that's this year? Are there no other stats for "clutch" hitting?

Is it not true that no one does better than fail 2 out of 3 times, no matter what the situation? Doesn't everyone look bad if you're watching so closely?

I'm not super confident when Wright comes up in a big spot, but I have found myself "often" surprised to see that he does come through.

Somewhat OT, I do find Wright to be a bit of a puzzle. I've always thought that somehow his family convinced him that he had to be a "leader" even though it's a role I don't think he is comfortable in. If he weren't put forward as the team's leader maybe it would have better for him and the team.

spelletrader
spelletrader

You are free to believe your "feels" all you like.

The rest of us see a player tied for eleventh in rbi in the NL. Batting .304 with risp, leading the team in rbi by a wide margin.

All while batting in front of low threat hitters in one of the weakest offenses in baseball.

He's a productive 3b that would not easily be replaced, on a team with so many larger problems that it is inexplicable of anyone to whine about one of the few good position players.

"Four to five of our starting line-up sucks. If only Wright were more clutch we'd have this thing!"

It's so ridiculous I'm surprised it's not Matt posting it.

grillruben
grillruben

@JimmyFromDBX  

David Wright is an exceptional player. He has put up some great stats over his career, and generally plays very good defense. He's a handsome white dude that grew up a Mets fan, says all the right things, stays out of the tabloids. This is why he is the face of this franchise.

The problem is David Wright is not the kind of player that should be your #3 and best hitter. His best years were when we had Beltran and Delgado hitting ahead of him, and guys like Floyd and Alou behind him.. There was less pressure on him, and he was doing what he does best, driving in runs. He was going wherever the ball was pitched, and was able to hit a good amount of hr's to right center.

However, he is currently hitting 3rd with a .236 leadoff hitter, a career .235 hitter and a AAAA player hitting behind him in a ballpark in which he can square a ball to right center and it's only going to the warning track. 


He has completely changed as a hitter. He used to be at his best with 2 strikes. Now he is a strikeout machine.

Jamie Funktual Freund
Jamie Funktual Freund

@mets2death  Hellllll yes.   I love him but he never gets pissed off and fires the guys up.  Some guys just need support around him.  Why do you think he loves playing in the WBClassic.  He gets to be surrounded to other big stars.  Pressure's off.  Kind of like in 2006.  He had no idea that a heist was goin on behind the scenes that would essentially also rob him of quality teammates, his youth (which has been spent mentoring rookies)  

rodd
rodd

@moep  he might play tonight with a lefty on the mound, i hope

rodd
rodd

@moep  there not good hitters, legares an excellent fielder, flores not and a poor hitter, like legares. 

spelletrader
spelletrader

I've been saying the same for days. Lagares is being punished for not following the "hunting strikes" philosophy.

I think most of the hitters are either frustrated with it or confused by it.

thjopr6986
thjopr6986

Lagares should be leading off. Thanks for nothing Collins (Mr. Know- NOTHING)

spelletrader
spelletrader

@moep  They're facing a lefty. This actually makes sense as CY and Grandy are similar hitters (statistically, this year) from opposites sides of the plate. 


IMO they should platoon CY and Grandy in RF in pitchers parks, and keep EYJ on the bench in hitters parks. 

hurricaneditka
hurricaneditka

@mets2death Yeah I've seen enough of him and his ERA of nearly 6.  Not even Minaya would have given a two year deal to this 40 plus year old overweight sweathog

semperfi
semperfi

I agree with everything you wrote with the exception of another throw away season, no one in the east is that good and if Sandy makes a few needed moves like getting a closer and a SS and either Collins steps up or steps out of Wally's way, they still can make the playoffs. Lagares full time in center with Granderson and CY on each side gives them the best defensive outfield in baseball, use EY as 4th guy, PH,PR and spot starter to give Murphy a rest at 2nd once in a while. Dude and Cambell platoon, Duda is not a full time guy, Recker and dArnaud 50/50, dArnaud has not proven he is ready to be full time and Recker has played very well. Give Vic Black the closers role and if he fails go get a top closer regardless of cost, Mets closer have already blown 8 saves, convert them into wins and they are in 1st place. I would love to see Wally running this team!

Jason Krull
Jason Krull

Haha. You beat me to it. This guy contradicts himself all the time.

Matthew Truscello
Matthew Truscello

@fhc1224 ha ha..... what is wrong with this man and why has he not been canned? His reasoning is extremely flawed. I honestly think he has some mental health issues..

Dean Austin
Dean Austin

@rodd @moep  Not good hitters? what do you think we have available to replace Tejada and EYJ? They are certainly better than them. 

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@moep  By the way, are they teaching this philosophy on the farm too?  I mean, if it's organizational, probably makes sense to start from scratch as it were.  Somehow I don't get the impression Wally would be down for this...

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@semperfi I think you make several valid points. The season IS 25% over and the team is not out of it (mostly because the rest of the division is very mediocre). At least the kids are starting to arrive but there MUST be a commitment to offense. You cannot have four guys in the lineup hitting below the Mendoza Line. And I have been yelling about that exact bullpen point for two weeks now. Dice-K as closer is clearly NOT the answer. But given Sandy's track-record in this area I have a genuine fear that he's gonna sign Heath Bell.

C Nerrie
C Nerrie

Thanks for responding. What you suggest sounds like quite an undertaking, but hopefully I'll be able to look into it. 

I'd have to think, though, that it's a bit harsh to say that keeping the line moving (getting a single in the circumstance you describe) is unimportant.  That's how they won in 1986, after all. In fact, one of the tenets of baseball is not trying to do everything yourself. 

But the whole "clutch" thing is pretty fascinating, and probably worth gathering information about. I wonder who is considered clutch and how that determination was made - other than through the beliefs of teammates.

grillruben
grillruben

@Steven Matregrano

How has his philosophy been working for the Mets?Not every baseball player is cut out to be a hitting coach. 


When you have a lineup like the Mets with a ton of high strikeout hitters you don't implement a hitting strategy that puts them in pitchers counts. It might work for a guy like Murphy, but for guys like Wright, Granderson, and the Youngs who all k a ton it is clearly not working.

Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

Steve. U r related to Sandy Alderson. I'm convinced that has to be the case.