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Mets will watch Cuban defector Erisbel Arruebarruena this weekend

The Mets – and other teams – are expected to send scouts to the Yankee complex in the Dominican Republic this weekend to watch SS Erisbel Arruebarruena, who recently defected from Cuba (Martino).

“He’s a very good defensive player. His glove is very close to the big leagues. The bat, you kind of think he’s one of those guys who’ll bat down in the order,” A scout recently told Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com. “He’ll be a quality defensive shortstop in the Major Leagues, but you wonder if he’s going to hit.”

Michael Baron, Contributor

The Mets are looking for more production from any shortstop they acquire, and for good reason. Their shortstops hit .215 with a .561 OPS in 2013, and that’s just not acceptable. It sounds like Arruebarruena is a defensive-oriented player who may or may not have a big league bat. Given how uncertain his offense might be at this level and what they’re looking for, I’d be curious to see what the Mets interest is in Arruebarruena after they watch him. If he’s ultimately going to project as a backup, the Mets might need to look elsewhere to fill the hole.

Read more: MLB.com (Mayo)

87 comments
eric88
eric88

This guy is a Rueben Tejada Redux. No bat. No power, no speed, we need to look elsewere. Arizona , Cubs each have 3 SS's.

pcshea
pcshea

Hey front office! Don't waste your time and money with this guy.

rico
rico

Winter meetings start next week (wed?) that's tradin'-time…and there will be! 


Sandy is going to put together a package or two for some pro's..(like a SS and 1st Baseman)


Don't be surprised to see Trumbo as a Met before the Holidays

John Vastola
John Vastola

Saw a little bit of him in a WBC you tube clip. Big guy for a shortstop, but he'd have to hit better than Tejada to be a good idea. Also must be able to hit to the opposite field .

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

we need offense in a big way , i still think we need at least one power hitting outfielder, if it means trading Lagares, so be it!

Marcus Jensen
Marcus Jensen

I don't understand why we don't just use Tejada. He's only 24. In 2011 and 2012 he posted WAR of 1.6 and 1.8. Defensively, he's above average. Offensively, he has the potential to be average.

 A 24 year old SS who is a tick above average defensively who has the potential to be average offensively. Isn't that what Cecchini is supposed to be? Give Tejada the position if nothing better comes along.

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

Scouting report is that the guy can't hit. He has Rey Ordonez written all over him.

jasonbay
jasonbay

No thanks to a SS who can't hit.


D'Backs would be foolish to hold on to Gregorius and Owings, with Aaron Hill firmly entrenched at 2B and Pennington/Bloomquist on the roster for depth, when they have other needs.


Do we think Montero + Plawecki for Owings would get it done?

flushed
flushed

The alphabet called, they're running out of r's.

Jeff Steinberg
Jeff Steinberg

I just came up with a terrific trade partner. The Dodgers are looking to trade Matt Kemp. We need a RF and a SS. I think we should inquire a package of Kemp and Dee Gordon. We could give them Daniel Murphy (who could play 3rd for them), Kevin Plawecki (catching prospect), and Rafael Montero. Obviously if we ask the Dodgers to eat a portion of Kemp's deal, they will want more prospects in return. 


Lineup after this trade:


Dee Gordon SS

Eric Young Jr. 2B

David Wright 3B

Curtis Granderson LF

Matt Kemp RF

Ike Davis/Lucas Duda 1B

Juan Lagares CF

Travis d'Arnaud C



Solid middle of the order lineup and a good balance of young players around them who can still get better. Also a great defensive outfield all around and solid up the middle. 






Kyle Ely
Kyle Ely

Why not just trade Murphy and Gabriel Ynoa for Andrus? It makes sense the rangers replace Ian with Murphy and we get a SS

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

The Mets will never sign this guy. His name won't fit in a box score.

Lyle LaCroix
Lyle LaCroix

We already have a player like that; Tovar.

chasesimms
chasesimms

WHY?  Are thought the idea was go get a SS who could hit.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

i would much rather see the Mets try to sign Stepen Drew or try to trad for Jed Lowrie?

hankypanky
hankypanky

Ordonez all over again. Waste of time.

dooley
dooley

Good question, was wondering that myself

flushed
flushed

How about adding anyone who can hit even slightly for average, which has become the forgotten stat. All that smack talk about Duda not hitting dingers with men on base, we'll be lucky if anyone is even on base to hit in the way this roster is shaping up; the only guy that might be left on this team who hit well with regularity last year might be Wright with Byrd, Turner, and maybe Murphy out the door. Hopefully the league doesn't catch up to Satin and Darno can be half the hitter they thought he could be, if not we are looking at a team destined to be out hit with painful regularity.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

we dont want to use Tejada be cause we actually want to compete and win this year, enough with the "lets stay with our guys" loser mentality!!

gothamsane
gothamsane

I think Montero in 2015 maybe a great spot starter and adequate four pitch, low WHIP, crafty reliever who can go four innings or more..

At great savings vs. A FA vet or pricey trade... What are the alternatives?

If we are competing with that potentially best rotation since 1986-88, 1968-73, would he flourish there with a smile? For a year or two? Protected vs. Being a starter?

How old will he be 28 in 2015? Not spring chicken for first full year?

He is not exactly 6'3" 210 and weathering 20-30 starts after spring training may be asking too much for a while?

Jeff Steinberg
Jeff Steinberg

@jasonbay I feel like that would be a good start. They'd probably want another prospect as well. I'd try to get Gerardo Parra too from the DBacks. He's great for outfield depth and one of the best fielders in the game.

gothamsane
gothamsane

Maybe a threesome w Texas? Are they looking for power at 2nd base? Maybe Murphy gets appreciation there, plus spot DH?

Elvis Andrus, Elvis Andrus!

Speed, youth, bat, range, steals, runs scored, great team stats I have sent in years on BB Ref and mega contract!!!

To scare Alderson away!

ny12jets
ny12jets

This deal has been discussed.  It too obvious.  Mets will not make it.  It's perfect for them.  Agree on every front.

Luis Torres Quiñones
Luis Torres Quiñones

@Jeff Steinberg Our outfield is set, it's done. We signed Granderson and we signed Chris Young, these two will play alongside Lagares, who was our best defensive player in 2013. We are looking for a SS, hopefully that same person can lead off. I know we parted ways with Jose Reyes and this organization really doesn't like him that much, BUT the winter meetings start this week and anything can happen. I would love this team to try and get a trade going where Toronto ends up paying around $18M of Jose Reyes's salary, thus making him a $16M/yr player with a $4M buyout in his fifth year, but that's just wishful thinking.

Kyle Ely
Kyle Ely

So we just pay Young 7 mil to ride the bench? Not happening

jasonbay
jasonbay

@Kyle Ely I can think of 125-140M reasons not to make that trade - the amount of money left on Elvis' deal.  Plus, the Rangers just traded Kinsler so he and Profar can play up the middle for them for the next 6 years.  Not happening.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

And another won't hurt... Your telling me you wouldn't want the mets to havve Jose Inglesas as their SS right now over ???????? and Tejada?

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

This guy isn't a Sign an start in MLB guy. I'm with you and still want this guy to be signed (Potentially)

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

Texas is looking for a 2nd baseman? They moved Kinsler to open a spot up for the stockpile of MI's. 


"The Rangers have three talented middle infielders in the big leagues in Elvis Andrus, Ian Kinsler and Jurickson Profar. Rougned Odor and Luis Sardinas are two of their top five minor league prospects and two of the most advanced."

They would be a good matchup if the mets had Power to give up at OF, 3rd or 1st... They could possibly get something if they gave up a pitcher or 2.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

What signs do you see the organization disliked Reyes. Sandy offered to start up negotiations during that year, and Jose wanted to hit the open market to make as much money as possible, and i don't see anything wrong with that. Unlike the dummies in the Media who are skewering Cano for taking the most money (when they praise the players who sign for the yankees because they "want to win". It was very similar to the Cano situation where mets were publically willing to give a 4 year deal, and marlins went bonkers and gave a 6 yr, and then promptly banished him to Toronto.


I selfishly would love Jose reyes back in NY in a METS jersey :) but i don't see that happening either.

Jeff Steinberg
Jeff Steinberg

@Kyle Ely Don't know what the plan if for Chris Young. I don't think they ever said he was a definite starter. Yes, its 7 million, but I think they signed him for 1 year just as an option in case someone goes down in the outfield. Anyone signed on a 1 year deal is obviously not committed to. 

jasonbay
jasonbay

@Mark Kelly I'd rather we had drafted Simmons instead of the Braves.  We could use a guy like that with an amazing glove AND productive bat.

hankypanky
hankypanky

I liked him too, but the present team can't tolerate a ss who isn't a better hitter than Ordonez was.

Ordones was a solid Gold Glove ss but was a sucker for a pitch thrown above the shoulders.

He refused to change or learn.

dooley
dooley

If the right deal presented itself they might consider it because of his injury history and his.high salary ($20 million AAV)

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

I'd tend to agree, Just probably not with the names you mentioned because they are too good for those teams to just give up.

Also Mets have signed and drafted SS they hope to develop in Cecchini and Amed Rosario (IFA). 


I hope they sign this kid too, as you can never have enough options at a position that is extremely hard to fill.

Jeff Steinberg
Jeff Steinberg

@Mark Kelly I think we have to either develop a SS, acquire a young SS (like Starlin Castro, Chris Owings), or sign a SS on a short term deal). I feel like the organization is going for a trade...

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

I disagree... it's a one year deal so he can re-build his value and sign a big time open market deal next year (and mets can get a compensation pick for him). Or he is traded come deadline if mets are out of it. 


Right now he is completely penciled in to one of the OF spots and if i had to put a guy on the bubble it would be lagaras.

gothamsane
gothamsane

Never happen. Scouting reports are brutal, even as a reserve. Poor man's Rey Ordonez?

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

I agree... but if you look at minor league track record i'm not sold he will hit remotely enough to be on the field.


I compare to Gomez because they are similar in the 1st year of experience. Lagaras had a defensive weighted 2.9 WAR and Gomez had a defensive waited 2.5 WAR. 


Gomez was 21 and Lagaras is 24. Gomez bounced around 3 teams for 6 years before it all clicked, and the mets cannot wait that process out in the hopes it all clicks.. Additionally Lagaras will be 30 where as Gomez is only going to be 28 and in the midst of his PRIME.


Again i'm fine with Lagaras being the starting CFer this year, obviously unless the mets trade for a stud OFer like a Kemp in this situation. Then i'm not ready to run him out there every day if he can't hit a lick.

Luis Torres Quiñones
Luis Torres Quiñones

@Mark Kelly This is one of those situations where you just have to wait it out and see what he brings next year. His career is just starting, and we don't know what kind of player he is yet. So we just give him a chance, he's earned it, and hope everything goes well.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

Lots of good defensive outfielders who can't hit littered around baseball... Mets have 2 in MDD and Lagaras. 


I don't mind running him out there in CF because of what he showed with the glove and at the plate (hoping for some improvement in yr 2) But if he can't hit, even league average he will have to be on the bench. 


A .242/.282/.352 line.. a 80 ops+ or 75 wRC+ (where 100 is league average for both) shouldn't keep him in the lineup. 


In terms of CFers who had 300PA's he was 34th offensively. In terms of WAR he was better becuase of his defense falling in at 16th. 


Defensive scoring metrics flucuate so much.. Example Carlos Gomez had a fangraphs def ranking of 26.5 last year (only player ahead of Lagaras who played CF). But heading backwards in years he as only 6.3, 13, 9, 20.... 

So Lagara's WAR could look awful next even if he's playing good defense without any offensive production, because it is very hard to run a 20+ rating consistently.

Kyle Ely
Kyle Ely

I wouldn't do that to Juan hes probably one of the best defending outfielders in the game right now

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

retrospect is an amazing thing. I'd love to have drafted Pujols, or anyone else who wasn't picked ahead of the mets and has turned out to be start or very good player.