Source says Mets aren’t optimistic about Wilmer Flores at SS

The Mets are not optimistic that Triple-A SS Wilmer Flores can become an everyday shortstop in the big leagues, according to a source (NY Post, Apr. 30).

Flores is hitting .250 with one HR and 11 RBI in 20 games this season in Triple-A, during which he’s been charged with six errors in the field.

He jammed his finger during a game this past Sunday. X-rays were negative and he’s been cleared to return to baseball activities.


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This past off-season, MLB.com ranked Flores the organization’s second-best position player prospect behind Travis d’Arnaud.

“His overall approach at the plate improved, and that helped him tap into his raw power more consistently,” the report indicated (MLB.com, Nov. 2013). “He has good hands and a strong arm, but the lack of range might continue to be an issue.”

In spring training, Mets manager Terry Collins said Flores has the potential to be like Edgardo Alfonso at the plate, so long as he can settle in to a position in the field.

Last season, he hit .321 with 15 HR, 86 RBI and 36 doubles in 107 games in Triple, during which he mostly played first, second and third base.




174 comments

damn    trtade flores------2pitchers---castching prospect===for thumper put cjhopped liver too.

Michael Portanova
Michael Portanova

Granted it would be a weak double play combination. But if Flores and Murph are both hitting above .280 you can survive. If not, put him at first and put Duda in a deal for a hitter.

Michael Portanova
Michael Portanova

in a division where you have Ian Desmond and Andrelton Simmons you need a shortstop with a bat. Aren't the mets supposed to be employing moneyball, "his fielding does not matter." Wait till Flores heats up and then stick him at short. Look at Murph,  good hitting prospect without a position we stuck him at second and i'd say he's an average to above average second baseman. If Flores hits we can live with his lack of range. I'm sick of watching Tejada be an automatic out and I think Drew is just overrated.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Can he really be any worse than Kevin Mitchell? Better temper, I suppose. I would consider this move if he were tearing the cover off the ball. I would approach Rockies for Tulo. Or the Cubs for Castro. Sure, it's a long shot. But we've got the chips.

Alan J Tepper
Alan J Tepper

"...86 RBI and 36 doubles in 107 games in Triple, during which he mostly played first, second and third base."  I think you mean Triple-A. 

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

We seem to have the uncanny ability to find guys who have no position. This isn't some new phenomenon and it is getting kind of old. I wouldn't be surprised if we move him in a deal and he becomes our next Carlos Gomez.

As far as short, go get Drew and lets go. Glad they tried it and know. Make a move!!

Haig Mathosian
Haig Mathosian

Flores will go somewhere else and be an All-Star.

I'd put him at 3rd, and move Wright to 1B.

Better yet, trade Wright....he's washed up.

Shawn R. Babcock
Shawn R. Babcock

They'll never do it...but Mejia looks like a closer to me. I know I wouldn't want to have to swing at his mid 90s group of pitches moving all over the place.

Let Dice K be the 5. And solve the closer problem with a guy with closers stuff in Mejia.

But changing on the fly is something we just don't do.

Doubleday
Doubleday

Hmm ... Granderson for Jose, straight up.

eric88
eric88

4 teams in on Joel Hanrahan. We have NO closer, but of course we are not in on him. I guess the 4th lowest payroll will stay that low until we move Colon. Then we will be the 2nd lowest payroll.

James Durazzo
James Durazzo

They should give him more time, and more at bats.  Dude is still young.  They haven't given up on Mejia, and look, now he's starting to pitch like Pedro when he was on the Expos.

eric88
eric88

I have been saying this for 2 years that I do not understand what goes into this organizations thinking process. With good hands and lots of infield experience why hasn't Flores been put at 1st base where he obviously belongs. A set position would help his devedlopment and add trade value. As highly rated as he is, they have ruined his trade value by changing his position every few weeks. After all it wasn't like we had a surefire player at 1st base on the big club. I don't get it.

Wayne Labenda
Wayne Labenda

Cubs should trade s Castro for tejada dr groom Flores and niño. They need everything and I think this would be fair for both

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

Maybe he hits so well the mets average 10-15 runs a game, thereby he can be "hidden" even at SHORTSTOP and then gets subbed late from the 7th or 8th on. 

shinjoooo
shinjoooo

Anyone who thought this would end any differently knows little about evaluating players.

Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

the dude is an AL player.  Needs to be a DH.I should not talk though, i was never on the Flores bandwagon.

Sammi Lubatkin
Sammi Lubatkin

Are we surprised by this?  If he's considered "agile" enough to get a look at ss, put him in the OF or 1B.  Duda stinks and Dom Smith is 3 years away.

bigdirty
bigdirty

defense first at shortstop. Wilmer should focus between 1st/2nd/LF. Wilmer could easily slot into teh platoon with Duda at first or if duda isnt working out move murph to 1st and try flores at 2nd. 


SS is the key defensive position on the field. You need a vaccume cleaner there. its not an offensive positon  

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Im not sold on Duda at 1st just yet if he is hitting .230 at 1st at the break...then id let Flores have 1st everyday...this guy will most likely be a better hitter than Duda..he may not hit 20 hrs but I could see this kid hitting .275-15hrs and 75 rbis and better than that eventually..this kid has hit well every level hes played at..and remember hes only 22 yrs old...also they already knew he wasn't a SS for the bigs.

Ricky
Ricky

  Big Papi is that you?

zoddie
zoddie

Who else has no position?

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@Haig Mathosian Wright isn't washed-up but he does seem prone to these long streaks of ineffectiveness. And those throws to 1B are getting scary.

zoddie
zoddie

Good idea, trade your best player because he's had a quiet month. For a guy who...wait for it...has had a quiet month...in AAA.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@Shawn R. Babcock Anyone else uncomfortable with Farnsworth as closer? And, god forbid, Valverde? You know he's back closing if he has 2-3 decent outings. See if one of the studs in Vegas can close.

Dan Waters
Dan Waters

Mejia has been great so far as a starter. There is no reason to move him to closer. If he wasn't pitching well starting then maybe.

Doubleday
Doubleday

Comparable salaries; Jose is batting .220 and looks in need of a change of scenery; Granderson doesn't seem to work in the NL ...

Doubleday
Doubleday

@eric88  We have our secret weapon, Daisuke Matsuzaka (Known to his pitching coach as "Ancient Chinese Secret")

eric88
eric88

@Wayne Labenda   I would trade Montero, Flores, Puello, and Leathersich for Castro. Not DeGrom! He very well may end up the best of this group.

Zac Tindall
Zac Tindall

Degrom Vaughn niño and I'm sure they'd want neise and Castro would need to sign an extension

zoddie
zoddie

He's not fast enough for the OF. They thought he would be quick enough for SS, but he's not. He's a 3b or 1b, most likely.

zoddie
zoddie

You're not sold on the guy who has been the Mets best hitter this season? What more were you expecting from Duda?

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

Remember Murph in LF at Fenway or Duda in the OF to name a few current guys

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

Way too much for Castro.. DeGrom is already 26 years old. If they want him they can have him

Zac Tindall
Zac Tindall

Either way Castro is needed and with Baez in his shadows cubs have to move him because they also have two 2b prospects as well

stemog
stemog

 He signed a big contract before the 2013 season. He's under contract through 2020.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@zoddie Lets see how long this lasts before proclaiming Duda a good hitter after 25 games.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@doubleday @thomas@eric88While we're on the topic of Asian pitchers, how is it that Sandy has not made overtures to Chien Ming Wang? Certainly his kind of pitcher (cheap and ineffective).

Doubleday
Doubleday

@thomas @doubleday @eric88  I know that, and you know that, but in spring training, Dan Warthen referred to Matsuzaka's Japanese-American translator as, "The Chinaman"

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@zoddie So far a career .247 hitter..nothing to shake a leg at....when he hits .260- with 25 plus homers and 80 rbi in a season ill believe hes worthy.

zoddie
zoddie

Ok, then Duda has been a good hitter over 375 games - his career. He's got a .766 OPS, which includes lots of at bats against lefties, which he's not getting any more.