Chris Young takes a hack

Mets signed Chris Young as a safety net

Mets OF Chris Young failed in three RBI situations Wednesday afternoon, striking out with runners on base in the first inning and grounding out with a runner on third two innings later. In the eighth, he lined out with a runner on second base.

He drew a walk in the sixth inning, but was thrown out trying to advance to third on a wild pitch.

In his talk with ESPN 98.7 FM in New York on Tuesday, Mets GM Sandy Alderson said he signed Young in hopes that he could hit at least .240 with 15 home runs. Young is on pace to hit 13 HR, drive in 50 runs and bat around .200, which is on par with what he delivered for the A’s last season.


Meanwhile, O’s OF Nelson Cruz has already hit 19 home runs, which leads all of baseball. Alderson was criticized by some fans and media for signing Young to one-year, $7.5 million so early in the off-season, while Cruz remained a free agent and eventually signed for one year and $8 million in Baltimore days before Spring Training.

“We were looking for a guy who could play center field, first of all, who could back us up if Juan Lagares didn’t improve offensively, and also had the ability to play all three outfield positions,” Alderson said on air. “We wanted someone who could help improve our power and somebody who could give a .240, .250 batting average.”

Alderson said he had not been considering Cruz because – at the time he signed Young – Cruz was asking for $65 million to play only left field.

“The fact that Cruz ended up signing $8 million a few weeks, months later, is an unfair comparison,” he concluded.

Young has just three hits during his last 41 plate appearances and 14 games.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

It’s a shame, because, while Lagares has proven he’s an everyday player, the Red Sox are reportedly looking to trade for a center fielder and Young would have been perfect for them. However, I can’t see them giving up anything of value to get a .200 hitter that may crack 10 home runs. I don’t doubt Young was signed as a safety net, but I also believe he was acquired knowing he could make for Marlon Byrd-like trade bait, who was swapped with John Buck for Vic Black and a second base prospect last season. To do that, though, Young has a lot of hitting to make up…




246 comments
Brad Houser
Brad Houser

looks like he needs a safety to catch the ball

Russell Broomer
Russell Broomer

Regardless of what Nelson Cruz recieved, If Alderson was looking for .240 and 15hrs out of Young, is 7.5M really justified?  I don't think so. 5M sound more appropriate for those expectations. 

Eamon Carty
Eamon Carty

Hey alderson now your just talking out your donkey hole.your a man of many exuses. Why don't u just admitt u messed up by not signing Cruz.

Cruz prob going to hit more home runs then all mets combine.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

I think we are ok in the outfield, We need a First Baseman who couldhit and intimidates in the line-up

and desperate we need a David Wright with all his .300 average and over .355 obp to hit more accurate in the rite moments... in other words when the game is on the line. Second and short is no problem atthis time.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

I got to say this, give young a little time, after all you gave time to Duda, Murphy, Ike, why not with young

perhaps he gets hot after this game and ends up with 25 homer and that wud be good in any park!!!

Young has power its not joke.

Nick Catino
Nick Catino

What a bunch of Bull#$$. I would of paid Cruz $65 million, he has power, we dont have any, he would be worth the gamble. We could of at least offered him something, like a 1 year $10 million contract. If he turned it down at least we tried. But no, they didnt offer him anything, typical Mets move. This franchise is getting cheaper and cheaper

qualcomm
qualcomm

How is he bait if he's making so much money? Even if he were to max out... he's not Byrd and Byrd was dirt cheap so more teams were in play.

jenkins
jenkins

It's nice to see Mets fans so pissed off, because that is what will make these owners do something. About time I'd say.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

Matt, thank you for that concise and unbiased posting.

queva
queva

I don't see how Chris Young has earned the 500 at bats that Alderson promised.

theglider
theglider

Here's a simple question: why would any hitter come to the Mets?

Unless we pay $12 million for a $7 million batter why? The team has no winning history, harsh critics and a pitchers ballpark.

George Brezny
George Brezny

Someone said he thought he would strike pay dirt with CY similar to last year. I think that may be the case. They had to over pay Grandy because I don't think anyone else really wanted to go to the Mets. So, the risker deal was giving Curtis 15M for 4 years... Unfortunately the big three signings (Bartolo too) all came with major ifs... but no one really thought the Mets were going to pay for the really cant miss big guys did they? I was hoping for 240, 20 plus from 90 Grandy this year... but he still may reach those numbers...even overpaid..better than last year... more would be gravy.. Bartolo was also a wild card but he still can pitch but was not the ace they originally touted in the winter... Cruz was available .... and a better bet then CY... so, Alderson is wrong that its unfair to compare..I pay to watch them from Florida.. I have been customer since 1964.. I can go elsewhere... Plays in theaters close because people don't show up, not the opposite way around. He still can change the course of this season...Its not too late... but he just doesn't get it... or worse,


Perception is reality ... David Ogilvy... The perception is the Mets system doesn't want to spend... period. He can do all the PR and advertising he wants... It's not working.. Time to change course/strategy...whatever.. And, if it is some numbers pinhead with some theory about Sabre Metrics running this show without (as Ron said last night) knowing baseball, I just may have to stop paying...That's the scary part... as long as they keep drawing close to 2 million (plus the tv rights) ...they don't have to...They draw 2 million a year and they are still complaining about the fans booing...wake up Mets leadership.. look in the mirror for once...


Loyal fans ..paying customers deserve better.. Come on season ticket holders... start speaking up! If you worked for a corporation, metrics would be in place to judge leaderships decision making... To date most of his decisions have not panned out... and the consequence ...fire the hitting coach... That would be the same as firing the line supervisor of an auto mfg plant because the old, rusted machinery of a plant keeps breaking down... I am not sure a board of directors would buy it.. Well, this is no different...Stop rationalizing this started with the scandal... and put the blame on bad baseball decision making... Mets fan since 1964.... but wiser now than when D. Grant was around... Bring back the strategy of the 80's and 06... Let's go Mets!

Michael Zvirblis
Michael Zvirblis

It's almost a continuous plan to get guys that don't hit.

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

How can you say the guy is a safety net when we are strapped for cash and you paid him 7.25m?? Maybe if you were the yankees or dodgers, but the Mets don't have the money to sign safety nets for 7.25m. 

Aaron Robert Gusthov
Aaron Robert Gusthov

"We were looking for a guy who could play center field, first of all...." Except he's looked just as bad in CF as he has at the plate.  He doesn't have the range to play CF.  Just another poor talent evaluation by Sandy.

Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

In all fairness, Cruz would probably have 4 home runs at this point if he had signed with the Mets.  

72tilltc
72tilltc

The safety net broke and caused injuries to players it wasn't intended to protect.

TheJMan
TheJMan

worry more about Granderson people.. 

bigdirty
bigdirty

everyone crying about not signing Cruz - you will hav eyour opportunity to sign him in teh offseaso for 5 years and $100 mill next off season. ENJOY!

theglider
theglider

And if they signed Cruz he'd be hitting .237 with 4 homers and 48 strikeouts and you'd be screaming "Why did we sign this guy?" And calling him Jason Cruz.

ken1010
ken1010

It's CHOO he should have signed.  Sure it would have required a Wright-type contract, but Choo was exactly what we needed in the leadoff spot, great OBP and a good defender who can play centerfield better than CY.  We need to add players like that to improve the offense.

Cruz was too one-dimensional and Sandy was right not to give him what he was asking.  But Choo is another matter.

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

7 million for a guy who really seems to be more of a platoon player?

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

I love this idea that we will be able to trade our young pitching for hitting.  What team that does have hitting is willing to trade away that hitting?

@Antonino Plaud Young is a .235 career hitter and he will never even be that again. Time won't change that. Duda sucks too

hankypanky
hankypanky

I suspect the Wilpons don't care deep down. Would they prefer an excited fan base coming to the park? Of course they would. But controlling the team comes first. It's like having a piggy bank that generates TV revenue.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@theglider Players seem REALLY detached these days; they probably only look at the park and if they get along with anyone on the team.  Most don't seem to care about winning anymore... FAs go everywhere.

jenkins
jenkins

@theglider I think it will have to be trading for a guy ready for the ML. We get great ML-ready prospects and give up the same. I don't mind giving up a Wheeler for a Meyers.


It will probably have to be that kind of dealing because the Wilpons won't pay for established ML talent.

Ed Yano
Ed Yano

So when Legares was on the DL earlier this year you would have been happy with Cruz in CF?

nwmets
nwmets

@Victor Triguero AAA is the level right below the major leagues, so when you say a player is AAAA, that means they're major league caliber. So that's a good thing! Unless you mean "AAA players on this team" and your keyboard got stuck? Otherwise AAAA makes no sense.

jenkins
jenkins

@Joseph DeFazio Alderson is a Marine who follows orders. He's not going to shoot his bosses. All GMs lie.

yankeehater
yankeehater

@bigdirty What in the world does that have to do with not trying to sign him in 2014??? We never even seriously tried. There was no hurry to sign Young....and everyone here said it at the time.

p8erbaghad
p8erbaghad

@bigdirty That's like saying "enjoy buying Apple at $600 a share" to the guy crying about not buying it at $100 a share.  Makes no sense now, does it?

yankeehater
yankeehater

@theglider Uh, no he wouldn't be. He, peralta, and abreau were common sense targets that basically every met wanted. I admit I wanted granderson as well.

TheJMan
TheJMan

@theglider


that is 100% true


and 6 errors 

the only hindsight I will play is that besides Young, they should not have signed Granderson -- said that from day 1 

Young was signed at the very beginning - total misread of the market as was giving the 4th year to Granderson

ajshin27
ajshin27

Seriously, Choo, Abreu and Drew were what we needed. Even 2 out of the 3, and we might be above 500 right now. Unfortunately, we never had the money for that.

Peter LoMastro
Peter LoMastro

@jenkins @theglider You hit the nail on the head. I told my friends that the other day. You have to trade value for value. I love wheeler and syndegaard but if you can get myers for one of em and a lower prospect it's a great deal.Also we can trade for a proven player like Tulo and give up a bounty and I would be happy because no one is coming here unless we overpay and we only underpay but get a Tulo type player and it brings excitement and makes our lineup scary and then guys will want to sign and have a shot at winning and even take less money. Also they won't be scared that their numbers will plummet if they have a wright, tulo and granderson in their lineup. I just worry they won't spend and will dump Dan Murphy because they do not want to pay him. I just see next year Flores at 2nd, Duda at first and Tejada at short and I see another sub 80 win season.

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

I've seen you reply with this same crap before on someone else's comment. Obviously you don't understand. You're correct there obviously is no AAAA. That term is used to refer to a player who is really good in AAA but sucks in the majors. Like a tweener. I understand you think you're being funny by "correcting" his comment but you sound like an absolute moron. Just shut up

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

@jenkins We know that the blame mostly lies with the owners, but don't say dumb things (especially with a Harvard education) like "he was signed as a safety net" when everyone knows the Mets are not working with a flush payroll.  He misevaluated CY, plain and simple. 

72tilltc
72tilltc

@SuperDuper  Because Curtis is worth 5-10 mil based on his history. CY is worth nothing based upon his potential.

Kyle Fox
Kyle Fox

@SuperDuper @TheJMan Curtis has a long, repeated history of performing at a high level - CY does not.  When people are seeing Grandy hit around this level, they've been watching the game long enough to know he's more apt to turn it around.  What you're seeing out of Chris Young is likely what you're going to see over the course of the year.

p8erbaghad
p8erbaghad

@ajshin27 We had the money.  We just decided to blow it on Colon, Granderson, and Young.

bigdirty
bigdirty

@SuperDuper this is the biggest problem facing the Mets. Offense is much harder to find.

jenkins
jenkins

@Joseph DeFazio @jenkins This is who Alderson is. Nothing he, or any GM says, can be taken as truth because he won't call out the owners. If he had a budget, there's no doubt i my mind he wouldn't have preferred Chris Young. 


Management wouldn't pay for Choo or Cruz or Abreu. Since SA can't or won't say that-every other reason he could give will not be true because there's only 1 truth

jenkins
jenkins

@David Lopez I'm really glad all Mets fans are expressing their contempt for the Wilpons because ONLY that may embarrass those clowns into action. 


This is no major league offense. 


I've watched Alderson in Oakland for 2 decades, and he doesn't do touchy-feely. He needs to have more of a free rein in making trades-even if it adds some payroll. 


He knows how to make trades.

David Lopez
David Lopez

Alderson has to get this thing turned around soon. Don't know what incentive there is in being a Mets fan. Sure the Wilpons share 90% of the blame, but Sandy hasn't done a thing to endear himself to this fan base.

jenkins
jenkins

@Rimo Chaloney @jenkins @SuperDuper Except the teams that are always winning or contenders. Giants, Dodgers, A's, Cards. Boston is getting none and flopping. Atlanta and WA were contenders until injuries hit.


Cincy has hitting and no pitching. I think the Asst. GMs need to get to work.

jenkins
jenkins

@SuperDuper @jenkins @Rimo Chaloney I think that's always been the plan, and it's a pretty good one. Mets have about 9 starters. You have to trade 1 or 2. Don't like it, but that's what good hitters cost.

jenkins
jenkins

@Rimo Chaloney @jenkins yes, because teams win with pitching. Even good-hitting teams. I think Mets should trade with AL teams, who all have an extra hitter due to the DH.

Rimo Chaloney
Rimo Chaloney

@bigdirty @SuperDuper  Everyone seems to think since we have a bevy of pitching talent coming up, that teams will be eager to give up a proven run producing hitter for the young arms.  I'll believe it when I see it.