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Mets hope to add another starting pitcher

The Mets hope to add a starting pitcher, “probably on a minor-league contract,” to compete for the final spot in the rotation, according to Sandy Alderson (Rubin, Jan. 7).


9:55 am: The Mets reached out to free-agent RHP Jerome Williams earlier this off-season, but not since signing Bartolo Colon (DiComo, Dec. 7).

Williams pitched 169 innings for the Angels last season, going 9-10 with a 4.57 ERA and 1.394 WHIP.

In addition to Colon, the Mets had reportedly shown interest in Bruce Chen, John LannanPaul Maholm (Heyman, Dec. 10), Freddy Garcia (Puma, Dec. 10) Johan Santana (Lennon, Dec. 10) and Daisuke Matsuzaka.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

There has been little buzz about the Mets and starting pitching since they signed Colon. However, I was under the impression they were looking to add one or two guys on minor-league deals to compete with Jenrry Mejia for the last spot in the rotation. If this is the case, it’ll probably be a late-winter acquisition, and may also depend on if Sandy Alderson can get a pitcher in a deal for Ike Davis. Either way, if they get someone, he will not be guaranteed a spot on the roster, so it will be difficult to do a deal with a Williams-type until they get desperate.

68 comments
TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

The fans have spoken, WE WANT JOHAN! BRING HIM TO US - Mets fans everywhere. 

happy hank
happy hank

i like starting pitching depth but just please no Daisuke Matsuzaka starting he is worse then Steve Trachsel every Dice-K start will be a min of 4 hours and 5 hours if anyone gets on base at all

Joe Wenzel
Joe Wenzel

Why even bother Syndegard and/or Montero will be up in June - why clutter up the roster.  Get some offense.

Jim Alderson
Jim Alderson

I would offer Jason Marquis a minor league deal if for no other reason than he actually wants to be a Met and no other free agents excite me that I think I could get on a minor league deal. 

tk2120
tk2120

need another left, Paul Maholm please. Ive been saying this all offseason. he's not lights out, but at this point, nobody available is...grab him, make him the 5th, and split up the million righties we have on the staff

Metsnow
Metsnow

Really?? What have they done since replacing Harvey with Colon and basically Grandy for Byrd. This team still looks a whole lot like last year with very little changes to a roster that needed a complete overhaul. Isn't that what Sandy said????

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Maholm would be a nice option to be on the back end.  He's far from great, but he did show in the first 6 weeks of 2013 he can get really hot for a long stretch.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

Paul Maholmes would be my first choice then Lannin second 

ifti99
ifti99

So, the Mets are looking for a starter, a veteran bullpen guy, a SS and bench help. How are they going to find any or all of these players when they are apparently topped out on payroll?

Brian Sementa
Brian Sementa

like bruce chen just for the fact he can be in the bullpen as well as the rotation so if he does win the 5th spot very easy to just put him in the pen when thor or montero are ready to go  

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

I remember hearing Ron Darling say this past season that he has a good, strong arm with solid potential.

Derpy
Derpy

A lot of talk of these new TV contracts recently.  I haven't seen anyone address the elephant in the room.  Is television even going to exist in 25 years?  I don't think it stands a chance in hell.  The US telecoms are going to be forced against their will by competitors to increase internet bandwidth for all consumers, more and more services will become internet exclusive.  The internet market already totally dwarves the television and movie markets and will have more power in the long run.  People do not want television.  People want a la carte.  People want convenience.  People want efficiency.  People want to pay for what they want and nothing else.  I don't see how the television model is possibly going to survive the shifts that are slowly taking effect in this country.


What happens to these teams inking new deals if television falls through?  Do they have a plan B?  Do they shift over to putting the content on some streaming service owned by whomever they signed the contract with?  What if that company is pretty good at television but absolutely godawful at streaming?  Is there a backdoor out of these contracts if they cannot hold up their end of the bargain, presumably to keep the thing on air?  


This could all turn out to be a really interesting time for sports.  I don't know exactly what time scales these things will happen, but I don't see how they will possibly take longer than 20 years.  I would be surprised if it takes 10.  I know of all my personal friends and family, the only two people who have television are my mom and my grandmother.  And these are all pretty average people.  I have heard 20% of Americans have cut the cord on television already, and the majority of Americans would rather have a different model for the television they already own (such as only paying for the channels they watch).  This is a pretty big market shift, and nobody is talking about it or how it could effect these sports franchises.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

I realize that things are slow right now but why do a story on a pitcher that the Mets haven't spoken to in weeks? I guess it's better than another Ike Davis one.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

Paul Maholm  would be a very good signing if we could then John Lannan (I buried Paul) lol  different spelling same sound. lol 

mjkru10
mjkru10

It is amazing how many big-name free agents are still left on the market.  Garza, Jiminez, Cruz, Drew, etc.  I wonder if the Players Association is upset about tying draft picks to players signing with new clubs.  It seems to hurt a few guys every year, with this offseason being especially pronounced.  Was this established in the last Collective Bargaining Agreement, or did this rule exist before that?  

dave27a
dave27a

@Joe Wenzel Right, because pitchers never get hurt.  Especially not Niese and Gee who don't have a complete season between them, and Wheeler, whose shoulder is already raising red flags from here to St. Lucie.  And of course an obese 40 year old.  

paqza
paqza

@delunsercf Thanks for adding to the conversation, mate. Insightful.

Frank D
Frank D

@delunsercf Teagarden is organizational depth.  Why is everybody getting so frustrated about a AAA catcher?  

paqza
paqza

@tk2120 As is, we're looking at Colon, Niese, Wheeler, Gee as the front 4, probably in that order. For the fifth spot, we're choosing between Mejía, Montero, and whomever Sandy picks up. If we're going hard after a lefty, I'd rather it be Chris Capuano than Maholm.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Your hopin for profession from Tda, legarus and wheeler / consistency from gee and niese / better bullpen / major league production out of first base.

If a few of these things happen, W the addition of chris young (not that I think he's that great or anything), hopefully a decent ss, another bullpen arm think we can contend for the final wild card position.

paqza
paqza

@Brian Daley The Dodgers started out last year with something like 8 starting pitchers...and had to go and get help. Pitchers get hurt. Calm down, bro.

Frank D
Frank D

@Brian Daley There is no such thing as too much pitching.  We need arms that can compete for a rotation spot.  That means players with MLB experience.  

Daniel Wexler
Daniel Wexler

@Brian DaleyThey don't have an "over abundance" of MLB READY minor league pitching which is the issue. Montero and Syndergaard are somewhat close but not "ready" and super two issues likely means both are mid-June callups the earliest. deGrom likely isn't far off but he too isn't MLB ready. Hopefully they stash 2 Slowey types at AAA to go with Mejia, Torres and deGrom.

dave27a
dave27a

@ifti99 Apparently they are still planning to trade Ike for all of them.

Mike DeRosa
Mike DeRosa

@ifti99 its too bad that they don't have any rookies they can use and see how they do. 

Oh wait.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@ifti99 gives you an indication of the quality of players they are looking at

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sydd Well the last 4 years have certainly given me flashbacks to the late '70s.  Hopefully the team resolves the issues the same way now as they did back then... new ownership that's committed to winning.

nothisispatrick
nothisispatrick

@Derpy I completely agree and if I wanted to watch a say, Tigers-Angels game I would usually just go to a free-stream found as the top-search on google and call it day(as i'm from NY); however if the market is going to progress in the opposition, which I agree with, they'll probably try their hardest to shut down that pirating of games (which may, or may not, be successful). Good point made though!

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Derpy Nice post.  I agree, the direction seems to be heading away from all inclusive TV packages to a la carte usage by consumers.  As Smart TVs take over the market momentum will grow.

bunky
bunky

@Derpy 
Very interesting take on the subject. I never thought about that.


collegept9
collegept9

@Derpy Those TV deals lock in a monopoly for cable on live baseball within a TV market. I can watch Mets games live on the internet, but only because I live out of state, and I can't watch when they play the Nationals.


The TV folks control the cameras and announcers, and it's not easy for Joe Schmoe to film a game and stream it, or at least not in a way that anyone can watch it.


Live TV sports are the bread and butter of cable, and will keep them in business for a long while. If they do eventually switch to mostly internet, there will still be time to fill between innings where beer commercials will run, even over the internet. So, there will be "TV" money coming in, even if it eventually becomes "internet money."

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sylow59 Sylow..Not sure about how you view Mejia.  I keep seeing people talking about him in the rotation.  While I think it's possible that he has the stuff the be a starter I can't believe that after throwing 57 innings in 2013 they are going to let him throw more than 120 or so in 2014.  Seems to me that unless they are certain that Syndergaard and Montero are going to be ready for major league action in 2014 they really need to go get another starter.

paqza
paqza

@mjkru10 The problem isn't the draft picks. We used to give up draft picks before and it wasn't a huge deal. The problem is the draft bonus cap. Before, you could give up a pick and then pay your next pick ridiculous amounts of money to make up for what you lost. This meant that some very talented players could hold out until a later pick/round and still be available. That isn't possible anymore.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@mjkru10 Agreed but I think the SP market is at least partially due to the whole Tanaka debacle. Once he falls, the others will start to line up and fall into place. I think he has held that up to a degree. 

Robert Hess
Robert Hess

@mjkru10Excellent point and something I've wondered about too.  And this is the type of question that should be brought up instead of Ike Davis 500 times, etc.

xgamblorx
xgamblorx

@paqza @tk2120 Capuano reportedly wants a 2-year deal and is willing to wait out the market for it. I would be surprised if the Mets give another starter a major league contract at this point, much less a multi-year deal.

md92468
md92468

@Hodges14 @Derpy What will happen is they will start to charge by streaming usage, the way they do with cel plans now. You'll buy a data package for home use rather than pay a cable fee. Either way we'll pay. ;)

Derpy
Derpy

@collegept9@Derpy The TV packages get money from each TV subscriber, even if they do not have or watch the channel.  This is why basic television packages are so expensive.  People don't want this.  People want to pay for what they watch.  People don't want to pay $5 a month to ESPN, even though they don't even know what channel ESPN is and have no interest in sports.  They would rather not have ESPN at all and save $5 a month.  If that were to happen, ESPN would suddenly lose a massive chunk of their revenue, probably the majority of it.  It would basically shoot ESPN and their entire business model out of the water.  I'm using ESPN because it is the largest sports channel, the smaller channels are in the same situation, except with smaller, more vulnerable markets.  When these changes happen, how are these sports channels possibly going to survive?  Up the cost of their service?  By how much?  200%?  500%?  1000%?  And how many people are going to be willing to pay that price?


I think this whole Sports television thing is a bubble just waiting to burst, and I can't wait to see the fallout.  It will be really interesting.  I just hope it doesn't, like, kill the sport.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@collegept9 @Derpy And that is 100% BS, by the way.  I pay for every SNY and I pay for the MLB At Bat so I can watch every game yet I'm still blocked out of Met games in CT, yet one town over it wouldn't be blacked out.  I really hope the next Commish fixes some of the ridiculous rules such as this one, and being able to post videos on Youtube.

sylow59
sylow59

@Hodges14 @sylow59

They have Colon, Wheeler, Gee, and Niese.  They can make due for about a month.  I'm guessing they see who can head north out of S/T.  Maybe sign some rehabbers and crap-shhots to compete.

I'm not counting on anything from Mejia.  It has nothing to do with the Mets trainers.  Some players bodies just don't cooperate, and I think Mejia is one of them.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Robert Hess @mjkru10 I think all you need is for one winter several players to accept the qualifying offers.  At that point I think the teams would start valuing the draft picks a lot less.

dave27a
dave27a

@Joe Paulson He meant the hills of trash in Willets Point.  Actually those are older than 36.

rico
rico

@BringBackDaveTelghe @collegept9 @Derpy The NBA did that with Knick games when I bought NBA TV. Then they refused to refund my money when I realized I could not see the one team I was buying the package for.  

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sylow59 @Hodges14

Well seems like the Cardinals are fielding a competitive team already.  The Mets aren't.   In my opinion that should be the priority.  If a player isn't ready for the majors that's fine, but if he is and he can help improve the team then holding him back is just wrong. 

sylow59
sylow59

@Hodges14 @sylow59 everyone plays Super2 ball.  The Cards do so why can't the Mets?  It makes sense, especially for the Mets.  Why blow a year of control for a season where making the playoffs is very remote? 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sylow59 @Hodges14 I'll be interested to see if Montero or Syndergaard are given a genuine shot at making the team in S/T or are the Mets still playing Super2 ball.