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Mets potentially saved money by DFA’ing Omar Quintanilla

According to conflicting reports, the Mets may not need to pay the rest of Omar Quintanilla’s $800,000 deal because they designated the shortstop for assignment before a deadline set in his contract (NY Post, May 19).

Adam Rubin of ESPN.com reports, though, that Quintanilla was not sent down before a certain deadline to save money.

Quintanilla has a split contract and is paid a major-league rate for games when he plays in the majors and a minor-league rate for games spent in the minors. By Rubin’s estimations, the Mets are saving roughly $1,639.34 per day by having Wilmer Flores in the majors over Quintanilla (ESPN.com, May 19).

The team announced in an email on May 7 that it had designated Quintanilla for assignment and brought up Flores from Triple-A Las Vegas.

Quintanilla, who was hitting a mere .207 with a .258 OBP and three RBI in 15 games this season, cleared waivers on May 10 and accepted an assignment to stay with Las Vegas.




161 comments
dukewillie
dukewillie

How about giving Campbell a few starts against righties to see how he fares? Campbell can rake, and Duda isn't exactly tearing the cover off the ball. Campbell was a run producer in Vegas. So, let Campbell and Flores play the Dodger series and see what gives, since then Mets are starving for some offense.. Since the Mets love side shows and controversy anyway, let them open the "Competition for 1B" - part II, Campbell vs Duda.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

It spoke volumes that we broke camp with Quintanilla and Valverde. And then brought-up Farnsworth a scant day later. Parsimony, sure. But also genuinely poor personnel management. Sandy has been given a fairly long leash but we have pretty much been watching the same team during his entire tenure. Anyone remotely excited about Dice-K? Or Abreu (the ancient one, not the Cuban)? And the team has three starters currently under the Mendoza line. That is unacceptable. Time for Tejada to get a nice long rest (and learn to backhand a grounder as well).

bigdirty
bigdirty

so in addition to getting rid of a mostly useless playe like quintanilla the Mets saved money...Thats a win- win situation. 


I also have no problem in the team dumping farnsworth. While his numbers didnt show it (duda save) he was done. The Mets needed to make a cut and there was really no gaurantee that farsnworth would be a viable candidate for thepen in a month so why not cut him and save money. he signed the deal and it seemed like there werent many opportunities for him  in the league. 


Making it seem like these moves are only money moves is dim witted. 

metstones
metstones

Alot of you are missing the point. Noboby is upset that Omar Quintanilla was sent down to the minors. What I think is very troubling is that Alderson/Owners are willing to bring up Flores with the intent of him sitting on the bench as a backup in order to save a few bucks. If Flores isn't getting serious playing time then he should be in the minors getting the at bats he needs. 

Ruben Morris
Ruben Morris

So it makes sense to all of you that a team that spent 15, 10, and 7.5 million this year for Granderson, Colon, and CY (as ill advised as that may have been) is trying to save a grand or two per game by getting rid of Q? How does that make sense to you guys? Wouldn't not signing those guys have saved a lot more money? I mean, that's like buying a mansion and then trying to save money by using less butter on your toast.

Or... Could it just be that Alderson controls the roster and Collins determines the lineup (and is a poor decision maker)? Is that too simple, too boring of a theory?

jaysonl
jaysonl

Im just so excited the Mets keep saving money!!!!!

cj1786
cj1786

Why is the money even being discussed here?  We are talking about OMAR QUINTANILLA!!!! A guy who the Mets have repeatedly released who keeps accepting his AAA assignment, meaning no one else wants him, meaning he's just not very good.  That's why they DFA'd him.  And the money savings?  That happens anytime you release a veteran and call up a young player.  So should the Mets just not do that anymore so they can keep the payroll $200K higher to appease the fans? 


When Gee is ready to return from the DL and the Mets release Valverde or Dice K or in order to keep Montero or Degrom on the big league roster will they save money?  Of course they will.  Is everyone going to complain about that too?  Are dweebs like Adam Rubin going to calculate the daily savings for that move too? 

Steve Cowit
Steve Cowit

all about the $$$, not about the fans or winning... PLEASE SELL THE TEAM..... PLEASE

Joseph Grillo
Joseph Grillo

Why didn't they just switch their car insurance to Geico?????

Steve Clifford
Steve Clifford

Ownership is the key to any organization.. Wilpons make me hate baseball

Charles Gustafson
Charles Gustafson

Murphy is starting to make too many good plays at second. He will be gone by trade deadline and another can't miss rookie will be brought in.

Charles Gustafson
Charles Gustafson

Oakland must have been a fluke for Alderson. Of course, if you can only afford old retreads and weak hitting starters, you get the result you paid for. Or maybe it was the foolish idea to have Ebbets field measurements for a team that can barely reach the short porch in Yankee stadium.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

I've been saying it for months. We need Scott Boras in a bad way right now. The Mets in this financial situation are bad for the players. The biggest market and we can't afford big FA's which hurts the agents, the players, etc. We need Boras to be squeezing Tony Clark and putting the pressure on the PA to then start pushing the commish. Make it public. If they don't make it public Selig will just push under the rug.

Let it play out in the media to bring public pressure on Selig. The way Selig has allowed this to be run is criminal, and he will do anything to save his friend so you have to put public pressure on him. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Glad to see people are finally seeing the truth. In spite of a dwindling payroll, debt notes limiting payroll, moves made to reduce payroll some people still believed the lies.

It's one thing to trade a colon or CY but they are going to have to move two of Niese Gee Murphy before next season. Unless you live in fantasy land where they increase payroll next year. If that's the case what's the color of the sun in your world?

Vic Scarpelli
Vic Scarpelli

Saving money on guys that should not be in the majors is a good idea people . Farnsworth and Q are not part of the solution

Ron W. Davis
Ron W. Davis

in one way i hope the Wilpons lose their shirts but since this is my team its hard for me to seeing what should happen vs my rooting interested i am conflicted. I want the Mets to win but how can they if they have idiots or worse liars runing this .

Ron W. Davis
Ron W. Davis

what kills me its not about Q or not . Its about the lies from Sandy . Tells us they have money which we know is false and then cuts budget not telling the fan base the truth it would be easier on all if they just level with us but they think or lack of that we do not read into this BS.  Fans would be slightly more understanding if mostly truth came out of their mouthes. But the lies and coverups are very upseting to me as a fan. I can't Trust Sandy or Fred or Jeff.

Steven Flower
Steven Flower

No ones going to want to play here if this keeps on becoming public, & Im glad fans get to see what tightwads ownership are.

Matt Drucker
Matt Drucker

Omar was not good but jeez. This is just getting pathetic.

vimets
vimets

The Memphis Mets.

eric88
eric88

Stay home folks, don't be made fools of.

Joe Bacci
Joe Bacci

Good Job by Metsblog of being open and transparent. 


Joe Bacci

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

Who cares. Any money they are saving is gravy. Am I to assume that all of you who are complaining about this would rather have Quintanilla on the mlb roster right now?

eric88
eric88

Folks all thru MLB like David Wright. They also know Management lied to him straight to his face about the future when he signed. They treated him the same way they treated us, the fans. Players are not going to like that, they stick together. Try getting someone to come here without severly over paying. They are destroying this franchise

NYISLES
NYISLES

The Mets are a pathetic mess caused by their crooked owners.

eric88
eric88

1600. a day saved and this is the year they told us for years the payroll would go back up to over 100 million again! Remember Jeff, "the Mets are open for business again".

Payroll down to 77 million{26th] and falling. Murphy gone at trade deadline with Colon and CYorEY, to bring us under 60 million, watch.

roe71
roe71

What a joke......

Ruben Morris
Ruben Morris

That's assuming that was the intent. All indications were that he was being brought up to start at ss. I think its more likely that Collins is just deciding on his own to play Tejada. But who knows, just my opinion.

ny12jets
ny12jets

@cj1786 Unfortunately that's what the team has come to, every move must have been done to save money.  That's our reputation. 

anymos
anymos

@Joseph Grillo That's funny- how ridiculous is it that we have a story like this on the blog?  Next is a story about how much they saved by replacing the Palmolive with generic dish soap in the Citifield kitchens.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Charles Gustafson  Very true. They certainly didn't need him and Gee to put up the years they have so far. Those two are going to bring in some serious dough in arbitration after this year. 

hankypanky
hankypanky

Hmm. For the record, Ebbets Field was 297 ft on the right field foul line with a 40 ft fence bordering on Bedford Ave. Dead center was 404 ft if you count the niche where the fence hit the stands. I'm not sure about left field but the foul line was about 340 fit or so. When sluggers like the old Yankees came into town they took aim at the fence at left to center field, which swerved in drastically. Hitters like Berra and Mantle had a field day in that park. Berra called it a band box.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Tarheel11 As there  is no salary cap, there is also no minimum a team must spend. Tony Clark can do absolutely nothing but grandstand.

shea
shea

@Vic Scarpelli  Saving money to spend on other players is a good idea for the team


saving money so the owner can meet his outrageous debt obligations is not good for the team

Ron W. Davis
Ron W. Davis

@Matt Drucker he did not lie like the Wilpons and Sandy they act like they do not care if the fans like it or not. Don't then expect fans to come see the team. We are acting like the Astros fan base that tis a afterthought.  They act shock and send out stupid letters to the fan base begging them to come . Well we will come when we see a product worth coming to. 

eric88
eric88

@Tom Gallagher  No. We just have a problem that every move made is financial 1st BB second. We have a problem being lied to and having a 77 million dollar payroll with the 2nd highest average ticket prices in all of BB. We have a problem that Q and Farnsworth etc. were on the team in the 1st place. 

We are discussing the financial operation of the team, you are talking the end result, two distinct subjects.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Tom Gallagher It's not really about Q deserving to be on the roster it's more about being lied to once again. When they made the move they said it was to make Flores the everyday SS. However then Flores has just been sitting here rotting on the bench so everyone has been up in arms angry and confused while TC makes nonsensical statements about how scorching hot Tejada is with the bat lately despite all evidence to the contrary. Now this info comes out which explains what really happened and the move was made much like Farnsworth simply to save what should be some mere chump change for an MLB team. And the Mets clearly never had any interest in making Flores the starting SS and it was just a smoke screen. Even though they're doing it at the expense of the development of a prospect with potential.

TheJMan
TheJMan

@eric88  

i get where you're going.. 

but who cares if they dump Colon and Chris Young and save money there?

neither should have been sign--especially Chris Young or Colon.. at least at that money


Murphy is not going anywhere


jaysonl
jaysonl

@ny12jets @cj1786Exactly.  It isnt about Quintanilla and Farnsworth.  They both suck.  We never should have had either of them on this team.  But the bottom line is every single move is about saving money not winning or bettering the team. 

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@TheJMan I'll be thrilled if they can actually get someone to take Colon's contract off the Mets books next season. CY doesn't matter as much since 1yr though it would clear the confusion for TC in the OF. If you're talking about not going anywhere during this season you may be right as it could be more of an offseason move but I tend to think he will be traded as his salary skyrockets and he becomes much less of a bargain value.


But I also get @eric88 meaning in his post that even the limited money the Mets did spend this offseason would be mostly not real and only for show if they trade 2 of their 3 only "major" acquisitions by this year's trade deadline.

mrmet4mvp
mrmet4mvp

@jaysonl @ny12jets @cj1786  Right.  And in this case, it's even worse than usual, because now it's directly hurting the development of a promising prospect.  Flores needs to be playing regularly in order to grow as a player--I don't care too much whether he's playing in NY or Las Vegas, as long as he's PLAYING.  But now to save $800k the Mets are ruining Flores by sitting him on the bench, where he hasn't even had an at-bat in nearly two weeks!


The problem isn't getting rid of Quintanilla, the problem is taking playing time away from Flores so that Jeffy can afford his online University of Phoenix MBA courses.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Tarheel11 @Pete Brilvitch I agree that a NY team should spend more, but there's nothing that says they have to. What about teams like the Cubs and White Sox? They play in a major market as well and have payrolls similar to the Mets. Why isn't Tony Clark getting on them as well?

Scott Boras, Tony Clark and the PA should not be sticking their noses into the Mets situation. The one who should is Bud Selig.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Pete Brilvitch @Tarheel11  Absolutely agreed. But it's one thing when teams like Pittsburgh or Miami don't spend money. It's entirely different when a NY team doesn't spend money. They've never had to deal with that before. 

And I still say Selig kind of set himself up here with the McCourt move. He set a precedent by invoking the "financial ramifications" clause to make him sell. To me the Wilpons are worse. 

When the Madoff scandal first broke, Fred publicly said it didn't affect the Mets that it affected the Sterling business only. 

Fine. Then somebody tell me then why within 6 months SNY was saddled with 450M in debt all of a sudden? Funny how the estimates of what the Wilpons lost was around that same amount. I would really hope they didn't pass that loss off on to the Mets business. 

And as far as the debt is concerned, a friend of mine in financial services made a great point. It has leaked out that the Wilpons (Mets/SNY) are in debt just short of a billion dollars. That we know of. But they are a private entity, so if that's what we know off, odds are there is much more that we don't know of. It's common sense

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Tarheel11 @Pete Brilvitch They can certainly try to create pressure, but they really have nothing to back them. The PA can't force the Mets or any other team to spend. That's the price they pay for not having a salary cap.