Ike Davis Grand Slam 2

Mets trade Ike Davis to Pirates

The Mets traded Ike Davis to the Pirates for minor-league RHP Zack Thornton and a player to be named later.

The player to be named later will be “pretty significant,” according to Jon Heyman (CBS Sports, Apr. 18). The Mets will save around $3.14 million by trading Davis (Rubin, April 18).

Thornton, 25, was pitching in Triple-A with a 1.23 ERA and 1.091 WHIP in 7.1 innings this season. He will report to Triple-A Las Vegas for the Mets.

Davis was hitting .208 (5-for-24) with a double, home run, five RBI and four runs scored in 12 games this year.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I’m not judging this deal until it’s complete.  The buzz from Citi Field is that the player coming from the Pirates is likely a player they drafted with a top pick last June. So, they’ll need to wait a full year after the draft (June 2014) to send him to the Mets. I’m holding out hope it’s OF Austin Meadows, who everyone says has a great, balanced, advanced approach at the plate for a 19-year-old. I’m not holding my breath, though.

Thornton is said to be a nice pitcher, nothing special, not really a ‘prospect.’ He was exposed in the Rule 5 Draft last December and no team took him, so that should give an indication of his potential. To make this deal worthwhile, I expect the Mets to either use the money saved to help improve shortstop or the player being acquired later must be of real value… or both.

That said, I wish Ike the best of luck. I’ve heard too may people connected to the Mets say Davis needed a change of scenery, which is why most people assumed he would get traded before the start of the year. It didn’t happen. He lacked confidence, insiders said. Well, if that’s the case, if it all got to him, if it threw him off his game, in this market, with us on his case, media in his ear, he wasn’t going to get it back. So, I hope he finds success again, because no one ever hit 30 home runs by accident.

Lastly, good luck, Lucas Duda. It’s your gig now. There’s no looking back. Duda (against right-handed pitchers) and Josh Satin (against left-handed pitching) should combine for a slightly better-than-average first baseman. It’s time to see what they can do, full time, every day, without Ike in the mix… Good luck, gentlemen.




953 comments
Jerry Schneider
Jerry Schneider

I'm not happy with this trade. Should've traded Duda.

David Schwartz
David Schwartz

i don't like the trade but I am not part of this management. I hope Ike Davis does well and proves them all wrong!

robo
robo

duda is better thats why  ike is gone duda draws more walks has better power and hits leftys a little better then ike did. good luck to ike but he is what he is a 200 hitter who strikes out to much

Lillian Whitfield
Lillian Whitfield

In other words they traded him and received nothing in return

dabo
dabo

If the ptbna is one of the three Meadows,McGuire or Jones then Sandy has worked his magic to an unbelievable level.  Those three guys are highly ranked and were early round draft picks.  This would turn out to be a great trade.

1940isdead
1940isdead

I blame the demise of Ike's career with the Mets on that headcase Mike Pelfry. If you remember Ike's injury in Denver, It was an infield pop up that Pelfry as the pitcher was supposed to call out to tell which guy should take it and the others back off. But Pelfry did not which lead to Ike colliding with Wright and sustaining a season-ending ankle injury.

Sean Matrai
Sean Matrai

I highlly doubt the Mets would get a top 10 prospect, no better yet top 5 prospect in Austin Meadows the pirates farm for  a 1st basemen with little hitting history.


Then again I have seen Sandy work magic before. If he got Meadows then this is a great deal, but Meadows isn't able to be traded now which would make sense why he would be a PTBNL

Noah Roby
Noah Roby

Yep, terrible move even though you don't even know the full return. That makes sense. /s

stage52
stage52

Well it is done now. Ike is a Pirate now.  Probably better for him and better for the Met's in the long run. He started out with a lot of ballyhoo in the beginning and earned kudos as a player back then.  Whether its was bad luck , Valley Fever, poor performance and Injuries it has not gone well for Ike for the Last 3 or 4 years.  Ike's father made a statement that  it was good to see his son go to a team that wanted him.  I think he would defend his son if ike was batting Zero for the season at this point so his statement is irrelevant to me. Ike would not be in this spot if he had performed like he was expected too.

 I have been watching Professional Baseball over 50 years now and have never seen a player  given so many chances to right himself than Ike had from the Met's.  To blame the Met's organization in any way here is just plain stupid  at this point.  Unless you were in a Coma for the past year you knew this was coming for either Duda or Ike eventually . Ike was the loser in this battle and had to go and it is better for him playing everyday in Pittsburgh and better for the Mets to get 2 players in trade for him and  put this decision that had to be made to bed finally .
 It did not work out like they thought it would For Ike and the Mets.    I wish Ike well but Baseball is a business and Ike was not doing the job he was hired to do so he had to go.   Mets Move on and Fans must do so also.

Jay Schneider
Jay Schneider

A middle reliever ?? That player to be named later better wind up being a Shortstop that can help us now otherwise he gave him away for nothing... EVEN though he couldn't do it in NY !! Flores better be why they didn't for a huge hole they should have filled with trading him.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

I wonder if they could have gotten anything better for Ike back in November. It certainly was obvious that teams were not breaking-down the door to acquire the guy--even at a fairly reasonable salary. The man was never the same after that collision with David Wright in Colorado. I wish him all the best in Pittsburgh (just not against his old team). Would love to see him turn into Chris Davis. Anyone else out there think Sandy has slowly become Joe McGrath (general manager of Charleston Chiefs in 'Slapshot")?

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

It's got to be Meadows or Jones. But I don't know why Sandy traded Ike for a impact player who won't be in the MLB until 2016/2017

Gregory Winer
Gregory Winer

Get real. Who wanted Duda? At least we get a right-hander. Mets pitching has been hurting. Ike takes too long to get going.

Grendal
Grendal

When you have a bloated big market payroll like the Mets you need to cut it down to something reasonable.  After all with all the hitting talent on this team the Mets could easily give up David Wright and bring the payroll to a more flexible payroll figure of 50 odd million.   The flexibility a 50 million dollar payroll in a small market like New York will allow the Mets to scour the waiver wire and minor league free agents and if everything works out get a much needed piece for the bench or the bullpen.

                                            

lindro88
lindro88

It's so predictable how much Ike's popularity grew on this blog as things progressed. He went from a player who was bashed relentlessly, to being much better than Duda, and finally he'll probably end up hitting 30 homers a year for Pittsburgh. Oh and we didn't get enough back, despite the fact no one knows who the second player is, nor has anyone seen Thornton pitch.

Scott Montgomery
Scott Montgomery

I think this trade was done a while ago and the Mets asked to wait until after the west coast trip to seal it. If Young wasn't DL'ed it might have been announced after the Angles series.

Brian Descovich
Brian Descovich

You guys are delusional if you think the player to be named later is going to be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round draft pick.

Why would anyone give away a top pick for Ike?   

Bob Higgins
Bob Higgins

@robo Duda has more power ? Duda will never match Ikes best year . Duda has no glove and also strikes out a ton !  Walks what good are walks when nobody hits on this team .

Vincent Mcelroy
Vincent Mcelroy

@dabo Ike Davis is not worth Meadows or McGuire! T he Pirates would be totally stupid to give up thier future starter at catcher or one of the top young prospects in the majors for way less talent!

You do have the right to dream!

lindro88
lindro88

The rumor was they could have had Zach Britton. He's pitching lights out for the O's. Much like Ike, his stock was low at the time the trade was being discussed.

stage52
stage52

@Kenneth Meltsner That injury he recieved in Colorado sure  seemed to be the start of Ike's downfall.  I agree on your observation .  Good one ken.

Sean Matrai
Sean Matrai

@Nicholas Vargas  if they got meadows,and rumors some state they did he is 19, top 100 prospect with enourmous potential

vince1234
vince1234

We all want to win now but stock piling as much talent as you can isn't a bad thing.

Grendal
Grendal

@lindro88 It's probably because the Met fan is disgusted.  Whatever machinations Sandy makes or hyperbole we hear about this great deal or that great deal or how in 2025 we will have a great team.  Right now this can't compete and hasn't been able to compete for years.   We have a team that needs flexibility by cutting an 80 million dollar payroll.

However bad Davis has been Duda is a stiff.  He clogs up the bases,can't play defense and for a guy with good power is a terribly passive hitter.

openmind6
openmind6

@Lindro88

Lindro, you are awesome.

By the way, doesn't the Metsblog reaction to Ike Davis sound a lot like the Valdespin story last year?

1harris1
1harris1

Didn't you get the memo? It's Nolan Ryan all over again in MB land.

dabo
dabo

@lindro88  that makes too much sense for this blog comment section.

1harris1
1harris1

I agree, although Heyman just reported on twitter that the player to be named later is expected to be a 2013 draftee; and that such player is "the key to the deal".

Who knows? Alderson seemed pretty happy last night when talking about the player to be named later, and I saw where the Pirates GM talked about hoping Ike would be their first baseman "for years to come". I guess we 'll see.

philj
philj

@vince1234  Hopefully an impact player who can come up half way through 2015....after we get harvey back...next year is the year

lindro88
lindro88

I've been a Mets fan 30 plus years. I'm frustrated as well. Whining after every transaction, lineup posting, pitching change, loss, win, etc. Is so tired. If they are such a source of misery to you, forget about them for a while. Btw. Besides his glove, you described Ike as well.

vince1234
vince1234

Next year is our year I agree...let's say our ownership is tapped out it is what it is we all don't like it but our crying won't change it....CY 7.5 off books next year ,I'm sure we'll trade bartolo which is ten , niece could be gone as well ( I think he may be up to ten next year ) with our salary relief and trades of bartolo and niece or gee ....we'll get a ss and left fielder......if Miami is willing to trade Stanton open up the farm to them he is a lineup changing force.

vince1234
vince1234

Doubtful .....even a college drafted player like jones ... A year and half in the minors is rare

Dennis Scharfenberge
Dennis Scharfenberge

@lindro88 You're right, they have been an unnecessary source of misery for me. I'm going to forget about them this year.  Pretty much what I did during the Torre years.

vince1234
vince1234

It's amazing that when front offices don't want something leaked they can keep it quite. All insiders are obviously useless bc the only information they get is what the front offices want leaked. The ptbnl has to play in the minors of Pitt for another two months how awkward would that be for him knowing he isn't in that organization.

stemog
stemog

@dabo @1harris1 June. The drafted  player has to be in the organization for a year before he can be traded.