Terry Collins and Sandy Alderson watch BP

Mets owners and GM say Terry Collins is safe

Earlier this week, Mets ownership told Terry Collins his job as manager of the Mets is safe, despite speculation that he could be on the hot seat, a baseball source said Friday (Newsday, June 14).

Sandy Alderson met with Collins earlier this week and told him the same, the manager told reporters after his team returned from San Francisco.

The players on the roster are largely Alderson’s responsibility, whereas Collins is mostly charged with keeping them playing hard and teaching them how to big big-league ballplayers, which he is doing, Alderson told Joel Sherman (NY Post, June 10).

“Collins is not going anywhere,” Alderson said before this past Tuesday’s game (Newsday, June 10).

Collins is in the first year of a recently signed two-year contract with an option for 2016.




121 comments
A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

..And while the team might be playing hard, they're not playing right..

robby
robby

The Mets are a disgrace of a so called ball club.  The Wilpons have run this team into the ground.  They do not care about there fans otherwise they would do something to help the club.  I am not going to another game until they put a decent product on the field.  I have two words that describe the Mets club...P.U. 

Ultramet
Ultramet

I have been a season ticket holder since the late 80s, there is no way I am renewing my tickets next year.  This is one of the worst organizations in MLB, and there is no need for me to support such incompetence at multiple levels: ownership, general management, and team play.  Thanks to the Wilpons and company, a franchise that was dear to many New Yorkers, over many decades, has been DESTROYED.  

am6241
am6241

One hit so far today, let the good times roll.

am6241
am6241

Oh boy now I feel better with this wonderful news.

Tom Downing
Tom Downing

Unbelievable!!! Management just doesn't get it. These times are like no others. SMH..

stage52
stage52

" Collin's is not going anywhere"  and neither will this team with him managing it !

Mark Martelli
Mark Martelli

Who cares. The season is lost. If they keep losing at this pace maybe the brick wall will fall on their heads and make some changes next season. And there are many changes that need to be made. Starting with ownership and ending with getting some better players... and everything inbetween

mystere24
mystere24

Alright, we have to get used to Collins managing at least through the end of this season. I still think the stench of losing clings to this guy like plastic wrap, but what's done is done. That doesn't mean, however, that the same is true for the roster. I like that they sent Lannan, Rice, and d'Arnaud down to AAA. Performance accountability is a good substitute for managerial accountability. With some luck and a slight uptick in offense we can fight our way back to .500 given our solid pitching staff. We need Lagares, EY, and Grandy back in the lineup, and we sure as he'll need Wright to be Wright. More than anything, this team needs to know the organization will support it by taking on salary with a big acquisition at SS, LF, or 1B. I'm still promoting a Matt Kemp deal where the Dodgers take on a lot of his bloated salary to save the rest and make room for Crawford and their top prospect, Pederson. He's been injured a lot the past few years but appears healthy now and he's still somewhat in his prime. Adding a true cleanup hitter a la Clendennon, Carter, and Piazza is what this team needs the most and would have a ripple effect up and down the lineup.

Matt Drucker
Matt Drucker

Why would Alderson want to fire Collins? If he does and they are just as bad or worse, he will take all the heat. Now it's shared between both of them.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

When you're enjoying this level of success, why change things?

Frank Garza
Frank Garza

Collins may be safe, but Mets fans are never safe from ownership stupidity.

steve333
steve333

Alderson shouldn't be safe

Collins never should have started the season but bringin in Wally would inject some fan interest in the team

gpopper
gpopper

Nothing is going to change anytime soon, we're stuck with it. I'm as frustrated as anyone else, lousy owners, lousy GM, terrible manager. It's a Mets fan lot in life at the present time. It will probably get worse before it gets better. No one I listed gives two cents about the fans, apparently. It is what it is. But, the more bad publicity they get in the media about the fan base and the condition of the organization, the more it will take its toll. Until that time, enjoy watching our Mets. Gotta love the team, no matter.

theglider
theglider

The Wilpons aren't selling. The teams value continues to climb and they just saw it increase by a few hundred million over the past couple of weeks. So they'll keep it.

kingman76
kingman76

Alderson gave this guy an option for 2016, too.  WTF?  <---- and that DOES NOT mean Wow That's Fantastic.

David Lopez
David Lopez

You all sound like a bunch of morons.  The only power you have is in your wallet.  If you're so disgusted with how the Wilpons "allow" Alderson to run the team, then don't buy tickets to Citifield and merchandise, or watch SNY.  Watching this team on a daily basis is an exercise in frustration and futility.  


The Wilpons don't give a flying #$*& about this fan base.  They can profess all they want about how hard the losing is on them, but believe this -- the minute they want to field a competitive team they will.  

qualcomm
qualcomm

What's more bizarre,  Sandy referring to Terry by his last name even though he works with him all the time or Jeff calling his dad Fred as if the two of them are old college buddies? 

ron3d2y
ron3d2y

"Collins is mostly charged with keeping them playing hard and teaching them how to big big-league ballplayers"


So the complete lack of basic fundamentals we've seen from this team for years is how to be a big league player? Good to know.

theglider
theglider

Alderson has done what he's supposed to do. He's saved the Wilpons money. That's his only job. As long as he keeps the payroll down they're happy and he's safe.

The roster they have reflects in the lack of spending by the owners. How many players do we have making less than $1 million? How many cut rate signing have there been? Don't expect change. This is what the owners want.

semperfi
semperfi

I like TC and think he is a quality baseball guy who has done a lot for the Mets organization, having said that, I don't think he is in the right position at this time and think to save face Sandy should reposition him somewhere else in the organization and promote Wally who has won a World Championship and has done it in New York and is a fan favorite, Met fans will love him in this role and he will be much more supported as Mgr then TC.

owlnut
owlnut

@David Lopez The Mets are a charm on little Jeffie's bracelet. Something to show to everyone and something that is just there with no function.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@David Lopez David, they don't care about us not showing up too. As long as  "Everybody clap your hands" is looped 6000 times (Bud's favorite song) and Fred has his ten minutes alone to make love to the giant 42 in the rotunda, they are set. 

I actually wonder sometimes if they are cutting it down to sell the team or move it away. 

kingman76
kingman76

@qualcomm In the military you refer to your subordinates by last name - so Sandy calling hm Collins doesn't seem weird to me.

nncyel
nncyel

@theglider This is so wrong. The Wilpons may be broke but they're not stupid. They know they need to win to make money. I guarantee you they want to win and are not content with this team. They just don't want to spend a lot of money to win.


Here's how they thought they could do it. They wanted to become the Oakland A's of the National Leauge. Lower payroll, bring in value players, trade expensive aging stars for young developing talent. Build a winner like the A's have. The Mets win, their attendance goes up. They make make money. 


It hasn't worked. Many people focus on the Wilpons, many on Alderson, many on both. I would mostly criticize Alderson. The GMs job is to build a winner in 5 years. If it hasn't happened he should be replaced and his underlings should be replaced. 


I don't find as much fault with the Wilpons. I know most of the posters on this blog hate them because they won't spend money, but it is possible to win without spending like the Yankees, Dodgers and Angels. So I don't fault them for their strategy per se. But the man they chose to implement the strategy has failed. His biggest moves have not panned out. Beltran for Wheeler. I like Wheeler but he's not Harvey so fans see him as a failure. d'Arnaud and Noah for Dickey. d'Arnaud has been a bust and Noah is still developing.


Wilpons aren't going anywhere people. And their strategy isn't going to change. The best you can hope for is that they fire Alderson and company and find the next Billy Beane to implement their strategy.

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

When you say "has done a lot" I assume you mean lose.

brosoul
brosoul

@semperfi "guy who has done a lot for the Mets organization" Like what? 

stage52
stage52

@kingman76 @theglider  I wish the Moon was bigger and brighter but it is not going to happen.  Maybe fans who think the Wilpon's will sell should stick to Conspiracy Theories about  Chem trails, Phony Moon landings and Obama is really a Iranian spy here to bring down the Country.

hankypanky
hankypanky

It may be worth repeating because there are bloggers who don't get it.

David Lopez
David Lopez

@qualcomm @David Lopez The thought has crossed my mind as well, but they'd be fools to sell or move.  They're making a boat load of cash right now off misguided fans who purchase tickets and gorge themselves on food at the Shake Shack.  



qualcomm
qualcomm

@kingman76 Maybe he thinks he's in the military.  I wonder if he calls Jeff Mr Wilpon lol

steve333
steve333

@nncyel @theglider

Wilpon has a NY team that looks like a minor league team. If you are fine with that then you are very easily satisfied

qualcomm
qualcomm

@nncyel They are not interested in running an entertainment product in NYC. They needed a team of all stars and 140 million bucks just to smell success for a year or two and they clearly did not enjoy it.  Some teams can do it for forty million less, but not when you have to cover up incompetence leaking from everywhere.

You mention Oakland... the owners offer predictability.  There is a budget; it's set and that's it.  Sandy never knows what he has week to week... how can anyone expect Oakland results without an Oakland style of ownership? FYI, When was Oakland's last title?

Honestly think about it... even with money the team was never constructed right and all the wrong hires were made in almost every facet of the organization. Every time they fired someone, usually the next guy was twice as bad.    There are several "no charge" things they can do tomorrow to help the situation, but they really don't care.

It's not about money... they don't care what any of us want.  This team is some family's billion dollar toy they purchased with virtual money and will continue to be that until Bud's reign of terror is over and someone rescues us.

I can only hope my love of the game still exists at that point.   

JasonMiles
JasonMiles

@nncyel @theglider Five years is long enough-Sandy and his crew must go. They failed..next. The Wipons?-I agree you shouldn't spend like the Yankees and Dodgers but the Mets payroll should be 125-130 Mil-Every team realizes that when you sign a player to big contract you may not get the whole value from it,but 3-4 years on a five year deal is good. The Mets however where their current philosophy are doomed and even with great pitching the team needs to hit and drive in runs

suzyq
suzyq

@nncyel @theglider nncyel you are spot on.  Everyone should read this article.  The Wilpons do want to win but they just don't have alot of money to spend.  It's not that they don't care.  I'm with you.  Alderson was hired to put a good team on the field and he failed.  His signings were terrible except Abreu and maybe Colon.  Funny, the 2 we least expected because of their age.  We spent too much money on Wright and Granderson and we're still going nowhere.  Collins may make some moves that we question but the guy is working with what they gave him....which isn't much.   With Lagares on the DL, Daniel Murphy is keeping this team afloat.  Our division must be terrible because it's hard to believe we're only 5.5 games out of first.

bsp123
bsp123

@nncyel @theglider Does Sandy suck? Yes.  But this is NY buddy, if you don't have any money and you own a team in NY then get out.  We don't have the time or patience to be the NY Athletics.  NY has many teams and entertainment options, if The Mets can't keep up, which as we see right now they can't, then they deserve every empty seat they have. 

theglider
theglider

They don't need to win to make money. This isn't about winning, it's about the value if the team.

The Wilpons, in the past few weeks, have seen the value of their franchise increase tremendously and they didn't have to do anything. It's about what the team is worth, not how the team plays.

Bob Higgins
Bob Higgins

@brosoul @semperfi  What has Terry done for the Mets ? I'm all in for Wally . Terry is to old my dad  is 83 and looks better then him.... 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@David Lopez Well, it was crazy for the Giants to follow the Dodgers out west when they would have been New York's only NL team, but sometimes owners are totally irrational. That said, it's hard to believe the MLB owners would approve that move. 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@suzyq Suzy, he can't build a house on ground that's always shifting. It's inherently unfair.   Also, the Wilpons signed Wright.. so right there, the Oakland model is out the window.

When every hire is a bust, eventually you need to look beyond the hires.

theglider
theglider

Why would they want to sell? They're making a fortune by waiting. The value of the Mets keeps going up and the Wilpons know it'll go up some more soon.

suzyq
suzyq

@bsp123 @nncyel @theglider bsp123 the bottom line though is you're right.  If you can't afford the team then sell and don't make passionate fans suffer.

JasonMiles
JasonMiles

@Bob Higgins @brosoul @semperfi Wally will do nothing for the Mets. yell scream? that doesn't work. It's all about the pkayers and the Mets don't have them/ I personally would cut Chris Young and get him out of here

Dyl Ofthefuture
Dyl Ofthefuture

Who says Wally is going to scream? There is obviously much more to Wally then someone who screams. He is a winner who wins at every level, I spoke to Ron Darling at spring training an he thinks Wally would be a terrific manager, I respect his opinion, Terry sucks, plain and simple.

kingman76
kingman76

@JasonMiles how do you know how Wally will react if you've never even seen him in action.  Pre-judge much.