Stephen Drew

Mets could commit 3 years to Stephen Drew, Boras seeking opt-out clause

The Mets are willing to offer three years to free-agent SS Stephen Drew, Sandy Alderson told a group of season-ticket holders Thursday at Citi Field, but so far that has not been necessary.

However, Drew’s agent, Scott Boras, is seeking an opt-out clause after the first year of the deal, which the Mets view as a deal breaker (Rubin, Feb. 6).

WFAN’s Mike Francesa said earlier this week that the Mets made an offer to Drew, but that was refuted by the New York Post, Daily News, WEEI in Boston and former-GM Jim Bowden, all citing sources aware of the situation.

“They’re fighting over the number of years,” Francesa said (WFAN, Feb. 4). “They already offered him the money. It’s a question of years.”

It was reported late Tuesday that the Red Sox made a two-year offer to Drew (Bowden, Feb. 3). However, according to an on-air report from Peter Gammons, Boston is asking Drew to be a utility infielder, while he’d likely be the starting shortstop for the Mets or Twins.




261 comments
Zach Ripple
Zach Ripple

I want Stephen Drew as much as the next Mets fan, but an opt-out clause? Wait, what? First, you demand multiple years. Now 3 years, saying one year is unacceptable. But now you want the ability to test the free agent market next year? But you won't take a one-year deal? So let me get this straight:


You want a 3-year contract worth, let's say $36 million, but you want to be able to leave if you want after a year. So, basically, if the Mets get a good year from him, he'll just leave, even though the Mets want him, but if he sucks, then we're on the hook for another two seasons. And he expects a team to do that? Scott Boras and Stephen Drew are acting like morons. 

Tyler VanRooyen
Tyler VanRooyen

Give tejada one more year to prove something. Spend money next off season for a younger ss, if he doesn't pan out.

Greg Formeister
Greg Formeister

Really Boras, you want us to spend on your clients and ridicule us for being bottom feeders, now you want an opt out clause for your client who has had little kick on the tires and we are the only team seemingly willing to go 3 years?!?!

01Starblazer
01Starblazer

@russelltob Alderson would look truly idiotic if he passed up on him and the price was affordable. Bora$ wants an opt out after a year.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

I wouldn't want them to got to 3 years to get him, but why they would view an opt out as a "deal breaker" is beyond me. So say he opts out after 1 good season, how are they worse off than they are now? And by then, Wilfredo Tovar or one of the other kids in the minors might be ready to take over at short full time.


I'd rather they give him 2 years with the opt out clause than 3 years guaranteed. Less risk in the former, imo.

Gman0830
Gman0830

@russelltob agreed gotta give it time. I am happy u have a positive attitude as a bunch of Mets fans I've come across r the opposite.

Chris Orio
Chris Orio

Live with Tejada this Year, He may surprise everyone.  He was pretty descent in 2012.  Next years SS free agent class is better, I like Cabrerra!!

archer41
archer41

Can't give him an opt out for 1 year if we're losing a draft pick.  Silly.  Why bail out Boras?

Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

Both sides should seek some protection with games played option. If he plays 125 games or more, years 2 and 3 get activated. If not, the Mets can kill the rest of the deal. His opt out option should be AFTER year 2. The only way it's worth it to him is if he has TWO good years for the Mets. If he is a total screw up in year 1, likely due to injury, the deal's over. A reasonable amount of gamble on both sides.

Brian M
Brian M

Everyone is saying the signing of Drew will only result in 2-3 more wins a year which isn't a lot. I say look at 2007 and 2008. 2-3 more wins can make a big difference come the end of the year. 

Alex Ferguson
Alex Ferguson

Didn't we read all winter that the Mets like next year's free agent SS crop much better than this one? If Drew wants to leave after one year, why would this be a problem?

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

I don't get the obsession with Drew. When healthy he gives you an OBP in the .300-.350 range and 12-15HR. The HRs would be nice, but the OBP isn't. An upgrade over Tejada? If we get theTejada of 2013 yes. Otherwise, not enough of an upgrade to justify the money and commitment, especially with next year's SS free agent class being what it is.

Marky Mark
Marky Mark

Every met fan that is okay with another year of tejada reminds me of that met fan Harvey interviewed who said his favorite player was Duda

bigdirty
bigdirty

is an opt out after year 1 such a terrible thing? it seems like drew is trying to have his cake and eat it to. Either sign a 1 year deal and play through it or give a team a guaranteed 2 years. 


I have a feeling that drew will be our starting ss come april. 

Metsnow
Metsnow

Scott Boros is a Greedy Mother F......and is bad for the game of baseball. So basically...they don't want a 1 year deal unless he plays well!!

gloveman
gloveman

Drew batting lead off means no more talk of Young as the starting center fielder. That's what I like most about this possibility.  

gloveman
gloveman

I don't know that the opt out is such a bad deal! Drew will be determined to raise his market value because of it, and that's good for the Mets. And next year with all of the other SS on the market he will have to have an amazing year to want to improve his deal with that competition. 

slainte2
slainte2

Opt out after one year seems like an overreach for just a pretty good player ... it should be a deal breaker. 

KHernandez83
KHernandez83

I'm hoping this doesn't turn into another Jason Bay. Coming over from Boston to NY hasn't been a good move as of late.

russelltob
russelltob

@metsonmymind I might feel that way come May, but for now, hope springs eternal. With caution, that is. Still hope they sign Drew.

russelltob
russelltob

@Gman0830 Thanks! This is my team win or lose. I suffer thru the losses as much as anyone. Maintaining hope for better days and for 2014.

Marky Mark
Marky Mark

  And I honestly don't buy into WAR as the end all be all..  You're telling me with our defense this year (if we signed drew) we would't be a vastly improved team? Our pitchers are going to love this team

nagel100
nagel100

@Alex Ferguson  I would also have no problem.. offer him 2 years.  not 3.  Mets are the team he wants because he would play ss.  he is not playing full time ss in boston.  

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

@Alex Ferguson If he has the option to opt out then there would be two scenarios: He has a great year and leaves us for more money next year or He bombs and we're stuck with him. It's that second scenario that scares everyone more than the first one.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Tom Gallagher Drew on an average year is better than Tejada at his best (let alone the debacle that was last season). He's a lot better defensively, and he's got 3x the power that Tejada gives you. Met fans in general are severely minimizing the difference between Drew and Tejada (even 2012 Tejada).

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Tom Gallagher  If you're going to use one number then use OPS. OPS takes into account all facets of an offensive player and that players total contributions to the offense. It was developed for cases like comparing Tejada versus players like Drew. The higher average singles hitters versus the guys with lower averages but with more power. Drew is a very good offensive SS and a significant upgrade over Tejada. 

No way in hell they are in the market for a big time SS net year. They can't afford it payroll wise and the longer term committment that it would take goes against this FO philosophy. 


edk9
edk9

@Biggie  how about a mutual opt out?  sounds fair to me.  


Jon Braunstein
Jon Braunstein

@gloveman I completely agree. Even if he does have a great year, I still don't think there will be so many teams looking for shortstops that he'll be able to get a whole lot more money, considering who else will be available. But man, the last thing we need is to be stuck with him for 3 years if this turns into another Jason Bay/Shawn Green sort of deal.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@KHernandez83 It's more along the lines of Boston is smart about their commitments to aging players of late. Letting guys walk at the perfect time, signing guys at perfect times after poor performances... The only big one they really missed on was Lackey.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

I know it's a LONG time ago, but we once had a pitcher come over from Boston to make a big difference for the Mets. Bobby Ojeda.

Gman0830
Gman0830

@russelltob done what they have previously in go I ng to cheap fa's or used the minors which had jot always worked out

Gman0830
Gman0830

@russelltob I agree with you. The 1 thing I have to say is they actually went out and got us some decent - good players. They could have..

ac0814
ac0814

That was my thought. If he has a good year (that's the only way he would opt out), the Mets could extend a qualifying offer to him that he would obviously decline. Drew for one year and a pick? I'd take it.

Marky Mark
Marky Mark

@Tom Gallagher @Alex Ferguson  My solution to this was we have a team opt out for the 3rd year, so if he sucks its only two years, if hes great and thinks he can get more he can opt out after the first

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

That's actually quite inaccurate. OPS doesn't tell you all that much. Say two guys have an 800 OPS, one had a 400 OBP and 400 slugging. The other guy is 300 OBP and 500 slugging. The higher OBP is much more of a valuable player.

Look into the wOBA stat. It takes this into account and adjust for OBP to be used as a stronger component.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Boston also has a pretty strong young cheap option for SS, much easier to decide to pass (or go cheap ) on Drew.

Gman0830
Gman0830

@russelltob agreed. Stoopid for that kind of money. I think they thought duda and or David would b traded already. So they could...

russelltob
russelltob

@Gman0830 Only acquisition I question is Chris Young. .235 lifetime hitter who gets hurt a lot.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

What I said is that IF you are looking at one number then you look at OPS first. Obviously then you look at the rest. But you put more weight in that number vs a BA or OB. so in your example both have same ops so you then look into the other numbers. No ONE number is an end all. The point is OPS designed to try to capture all aspects. Much more than a BA or an OB. I never said that's the only number you look at

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Understanding and interpreting stats isn't difficult, anyone can do it. It's hardly like this is cutting age stuff anymore if you put a few minutes of research into it.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@BringBackDaveTelghe  Well I'm going off of what I've been told by a few D1 major college programs coaches have told me. I go by what guys who do this for a living say.