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Mets first heard of Parnell’s elbow pain on Monday

Bobby Parnell injured the UCL in his right elbow, Sandy Alderson repeated to reporters on Wednesday at Citi Field.


4:05 pm: The Mets have seen Parnell pitch in enough games during his career that, if something was off in his delivery that may have led to an elbow injury, they would have seen it, Terry Collins said before Wednesday’s game.


3:52 pm: According to Alderson, Monday after the game was the first time he was informed of any pain associated with Parnell’s arm, which could keep him from pitching in a game for at least six weeks.

Alderson acknowledged that Parnell’s velocity had been down during Spring Training, but that is not always a precursor to an elbow injury.

“It’s a somewhat different location than, for example, from Matt Harvey‘s injury,” Alderson said. “Parnell’s injury is in part of a thicker part of the ligament, which means the partial tear may not be as serious and may not immediately require surgery like it might if in a different part of the ligament.”

The team endorses Parnell’s desire to be conservative in how he rests and returns to a throwing program, especially considering that surgery is always a possibility.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

According to Alderson, rehab will not heal the tear. The ligament is what it is and will continue to be torn unless it is surgically repaired. The question facing Parnell, as is always the case with pitchers in his situation, is whether the tear is such that he can pitch with it. It seems doctors and player feel it is, at least for now, and so we’ll see what happens when he gets back on the mound…




38 comments
C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

Also, haven't we seen this movie before?  Is it just me, or is anyone else confused as to why Ray Ramirez, after all these years, still leads this organization's medical staff?  Does he have no accountability for how long injuries have lingered?  Or how seemingly minor injuries tend to turn into season long ordeals?  It really can't just be that all the Met players are brittle, can it?

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

"The question facing Parnell, as is always the case with pitchers in his situation, is whether the tear is such that he can pitch with it."


I think people may've glossed over this interesting idea..pitchers don't play through pain anymore.  I understand that there are millions of dollars invested in these arms, but there's something to be said about having a higher threshold for pain.  About going out and "leaving it on the field".  It just seems nowadays pitchers are more resigned to allow their agents and/or owners dictate how hurt they are.  TJ surgery really shouldn't be the rule, it still should be the exception.

George Coffin
George Coffin

Why didn't the Met's medical staff perform MRIs on him every day before the season started? This organization is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Another coup for the vaunted Met Medical staff.  Anyone remember when his herniated disc was first diagnosed as the result of sleeping with a 'bad pillow?'

4EverMets
4EverMets

Harang a 1-0 shutout win for the Braves!! Typical ex-Met!!

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

So its the Mets fault that Parnell did not divulge his pain/injury until Monday? Was it the Mets fault when Harvey didn't divulge his injury right as a either? The accountability is on the player in these situations, not the medical staff.

4EverMets
4EverMets

Now that Parnell is out for the '14 season, we feel we probably won't be able to compete til the '16 season. Sorry Met's fans!  Per Sandy Alderson!!

Ramon Bonilla
Ramon Bonilla

The should get rid of the head trainer and his staff,also let go the streanth conditioning training staff,it seens they are not doing a good job keeping the players in good playing conditions,they been there too long and every year is the same problems,somehow they are not doing the job is require to maintain the players in playing condition.that is my personal opinion,hope Mr. Sandy Alderson read this post.

Nick Catino
Nick Catino

Guarantee he will have surgery in May when he finds out rehab isnt gonna work. Just do the surgery now and get it over with. See you in 2016 Parnell

Jeff Ordon
Jeff Ordon

He is not effective at 89-91 mph... if he can't get above that,  there is no point in having him on the roster. He should get the surgery now.

Rob Lane
Rob Lane

Hi velocity was down throughout spring training. How was this not an issue/priority?

rico
rico

Yes the should keep all the players in protective bubbles, and full body-casts..(when they're healthy)

Starz31
Starz31

Why would they? That's absurd.

Starz31
Starz31

Huh? That has no bearing whatsoever on this discussion, or any baseball discussion. 

Starz31
Starz31

I don't think this is anyone's fault unless Parnell explicitly hid the injury or any sort of pain/discomfort. I'd like to think that's not the case, not at this point of the season. His job was locked up, he certainly could've dialed it back a bit and rested some if he was really hurt. I feel like this was just one of those injuries that was unavoidable. That's the risk of being a professional pitcher. They get hurt. 

nwmets
nwmets

Yes, but it performs as well as the on-field team.

rico
rico

Fact is they need to give the injury a couple of weeks to get the swelling down anyway. It's nit always "stalling" . Most players have tears in their ligaments, most people do too. In a few weeks the immediate inflammation will go down and thats when they can make real decisions.

Starz31
Starz31

@Nick Catino  Quite possibly. But it is a slightly different injury than Harvey's. Wainwright and Smoltz both pitched with tears in their UCL, and Dickey doesnt even have an UCL, so everyone's different. 

Starz31
Starz31

@mikesml  They are two different statements. 

With this particular injury, and no known certainty on how Parnell will respond, he can conceivably pitch with this injury. That's not the same as saying the tear won't heal on its own. They both are true statements. 

Starz31
Starz31

Because it was spring training and he was coming off a major surgery. Pretty straightforward. 

Mark Kohn
Mark Kohn

because he was coming off major surgery? too logical?

Starz31
Starz31

@Joe Wenzel @Ramon Bonilla  Except for Steve Avery, one of their phenoms who dealt with major injuries to his arm after his first couple of seasons. Google tells me he started 135 major league games before the age of 24. That's crazy. Smoltz also dealt with significant injuries. 

There is certainly something to the argument that pitchers should strengthen their arms more now but there's also equal evidence to where over-work at a young age can ruin careers. Every pitcher is different. That's simply the reality of it all. Pitching is inherit risk and such an unnatural action to the arm and shoulder. 

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@Joe Wenzel @Ramon BonillaYou make a very interesting point. I was not a huge fan of Rick ("I can fix Victor Zambrano in a week') Peterson but he did have some success. Not exactly sure what Dan Warthen has brought to the party these past few years. And we are seeing a great many injuries.

Starz31
Starz31

@Will Keesee  Of course it didn't. It's just easier to see a common baseball injury and make it seem like its the Mets fault. 

Starz31
Starz31

@Joe Wenzel  It's on the player. The team can't prevent something like this. Pitchers get hurt. You just hope they don't. 

Starz31
Starz31

@Kenneth Meltsner @Joe Wenzel @Ramon Bonilla  Are we really seeing a great number of injuries? I don't think that's the case, not compared to other teams. Pitchers get hurt. I don't think it has anything to do with the pitching coach but rather the pitcher themselves and most likely the wear and tear they put on their arms in high school and college, before they are protected and analyzed heavily. 

rico
rico

Look around the league, it's not just Mets they're dropping like flies