Mets could still sign more starting pitching depth before Spring Training

Assistant GM John Ricco said the team could still sign additional starting pitching depth (Rubin, Jan. 20), even though they recently signed LHP John Lannan to a minor-league contract.

Michael Baron, Contributor

Lannan is reportedly healthy, but he is coming off knee surgery  that cut short his 2013 season. That – along with concerns about Jenrry Mejia‘s health – make it somewhat necessary to bring more options to camp. Minor leaguer pitchers Jacob deGrom and Rafael Montero will be considered, but it seems more likely they will start the season at Triple-A Las Vegas with a promotion waiting until mid-season.

36 comments
LA Cura Estrella
LA Cura Estrella

We don't need pitcher we just need someone who can hit 30 home run and 100 RBI .. If they don't make run they never going to win a game .I would like to see the mets in the playoffs .

lindro88
lindro88

Lannan always gave the Mets fits.  I like him.  He's tough and if he is healthy I bet he has a good season.  

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

I think this is good. Lannan on a minor league deal was a great pickup. Honestly, I think DeGrom has to come up and show something, at this point - so much press, such unimpressive numbers over the past two years, going on age 26. It is time for him to move up or move out. However, Montero would benefit from more AAA time and, if there really is a chance he's got what it takes, using a year when the Mets are not going to compete (sorry, Sandy, ain't happenin') to avoid the Super Two crap is good. Then you have Syndergaard getting a full season in AAA and knowing that he's building toward a 2015 debut, could take a lot of pressure off the kid and the organization. He'll be 21 - there's no hurry.



chasesimms
chasesimms

Wait and see who offers these guys a contract first though!  

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

what about this guy who is avail in trade for a ss possibility

Logan Forsythe can play 2nd or 3rd and SS why not?

Olerud42
Olerud42

Can't have enough bad pitching, I always say. 

John Cross
John Cross

One more starter to compete for the 5th starter spot wouldn't hurt. Mejia should get it if healthy, but he hasn't stayed healthy. Lannan isn't horrible, but he's not that good either, and Montero and Syndaaguard aren't ready for it yet.

tommets
tommets

I think Sandy is doing the right thing with the young pitching. They have to keep them right where they are until the cutoff date. I think he's trying to do what the Rays did where they had a rotation of Price, Garza, Shields, Hellickson and traded away Garza and Shields once Cobb and Moore were ready. I think it's exactly what they're gonna do with Gee and Niese when Syndergaard and Montero are ready and get some major league hitting if they're still in contention or get prospects if they aren't. I really hope Sandy does that.

eric88
eric88

Pitching again!! The Cardinals brought up their pitchers Wacha and Shelby Miller as SP Rodriquez RP straight from AA and look what they did, they carried the Cards to the world Series and Dominated! Your guys are as highly rated as theirs were last year. Based on last years averages you have 2 hitters at .200 or less 2 hitters .210 or less, 1 under .225 and two more .245 or less !! Thats the worst opening day starting group in MODERN MLB HISTORY. We need a SS and someone, anyone who could hit {Morales?}Morales would come cheap and he immediately become the 2nd or 3rd best offensive player on the team. You could cut the other crap you have on 1st to pay him.

arc34
arc34

If Montero lights it up in ST he stays....nothing more for him to prove at AAA Vegas....and I don't care about future service time.

Nicholas Vacante
Nicholas Vacante

Might it be more important to sign some position player depth, considering this team currently has no more than THREE players who can be relied upon to be competent hitters?

tommets
tommets

The Mets can do a lot of things... They just choose not to.

stemog
stemog

@7up17togo He played college and then missed all of 2011. He's moved very fast through the system since coming back in 2012, both A levels, AA and AAA. Not much you can do about that. Just the way it went. Hopefully he's ready now.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@7up17togo It goes more by professional service time than by clock age. 

eric88
eric88

@tommets But your sacrificing yet another season for yet another season

Olerud42
Olerud42

@eric88 Batting average is a weak statistic for measuring all-around hitting. Morales is an average hitter, but a bad fielder, and not a great asset at first base. Below average according to fWAR. Might be an upgrade over Duda / Satin, but probably not by much. I'd pass. 

Craig Kelly
Craig Kelly

@eric88 
I believe you mean Martinez (not Rodriguez) and don't forget Rosenthal. 
That is the reason to stockpile pitching.  If you are competitive deep into the season,
you can bring up those live, young arms and have them pitch out of the BP, i games that matter.

arc34
arc34

@eric88 This is a risk-adverse ownership now since Madoff scandal and a host of bad contracts given out in recent past.  Yeah, that move would take guts, could backfire also, 60-40 it would be a good move to make....but not happening

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@arc34 That's nice that you don't but the Mets who will actually have to pay him in the future most certainly do.

nolrog
nolrog

@arc34 You should.  It keeps him away from free agency for another full year.  Getting him in Citi in April this year is meaningless, but having him still under control in 2018 or 2019 is far more important.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@Nicholas Vacante The problem is that most of our starters should be backups, and most of our backups should be in the minors. Unfortunately, not too many options for starters at this point, especially at SS and 1B. If they don't want Drew...

Hodges14
Hodges14

@tommets Yes, winning is one of the things they choose not to do.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@eric88 @tommets You aren't sacrificing a season if there's no possibility of winning that season given the present conditions. No way they really compete for a playoff spot this year unless they add 2 or 3 stars. 

eric88
eric88

@Craig Kelly @eric88  I stand corrected on Martinez.However to your point, in the past the pitching Sandy has stockpiled has been awful  like Laffy or Marcham last year who effectively took us out of competitiveness early. I don't believe in sacrificing one season for another. We have been told about 2014 for a long time and can become much better with some bold moves and little money.

arc34
arc34

@Brian Webster @arc34 So how many years do we torch while we keep players that can help us win away form Citifield?  Anyhow, if Montero turns out to be real good we will buy out his last couple of arb years with a new deal.  We cannot be punting 2014 yet....if, and that is a big if, there is a young player that is far better option than what we are putting out there to start the year,well, you owe it to the paying fans to bring that player north.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@nolrog @arc34 Why is winning in 2019 more important than winning now, or at any time in the last 5 years?

Olerud42
Olerud42

@Hodges14 @Olerud42 @eric88 @tommets I actually think it's the opposite of that. If you try to win every season regardless of the real situation, you will inevitably do some of the wrong things. 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Olerud42 @eric88 @tommets

You're also sacrificing a year of the kid(s) career which could be used to establish himself as a major leaguer and if nothing else build up trade value.  It's all a very shortsighted approach.  If you try to win you will most times do the right thing.  If you try to lose then you are presented with these moral dilemnas.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Olerud42 @eric88 @Craig Kelly

Considering the new tv money, the money that came off the books after the 2013 season and the payroll now vs when Alderson was hired they should have had lots of money to spend this winter.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@eric88 @Craig Kelly  " We have been told about 2014 for a long time and can become much better with some bold moves and little money."


Not really. It would take a lot of money to become a lot better. 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Olerud42 @arc34 @Brian Webster

Someone has to explain to me how intentionally pissing away a 6th straight year is a good thing for the franchise.  I know there's a fairly vocal minority who think this is all good but I just don't get it.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@arc34 @Brian Webster We've already punted 2014. There's no way this collection of talent is going to the playoffs.We're at least a few major pieces away.