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Mets considering Montero for Opening Day bullpen

The Mets are considering carrying Rafael Montero in their Opening Day bullpen (DiComo, March 16).

Montero is not being considered to replace the possibly-injured Jon Niese, who left Sunday’s game with elbow pain. Jenrry Mejia and John Lannan are the front-runners to replace Niese in the rotation if he’s unable to pitch, according to the report.

Mejia, Lannan and Daisuke Matsuzaka are said to be competing for the fifth spot in the rotation.




88 comments
Stearnsfan12
Stearnsfan12

Mets brass needs to grow a set of balls.  If Montero is the best candidate for the 5th spot, cut the Dice-K's and lets see what the kid has to offer.  What does a year of Lannan or Dice-K do for the future of this club?  Not a darn thing.  I can't stand the way the Mets do business.  Stop thinking with the checkbook that's obviously on empty again, and let the kid do his thing (which starts his clock).  The Wilpons swear the money woes are over, but their actions speak louder than their words.  If Montero is the best man for the job, let him prove it!!!!

nsmooth
nsmooth

there are plenty of shortstops who are average defenders, as long as they hit its all good. Johnny peralta,, hanley ramirez, jed lowrie. etc, and i'd be glad to have any one of those guys playing SS for us..

eric88
eric88

Get Franklin for Mejia and Vic black. Franklin plays SS this year and next off season they get a SS and he moves to second, because we all know they are going to move Murphy over salary.

nolrog
nolrog

No they aren't.  Putting him in the opening day pen starts his FA clock and they will hold him back until after the Super 2 date.

Marc Cercone
Marc Cercone

Just start him now that you're a man down

BlackDynamite
BlackDynamite

He's had 3 pretty successful years in the minors, and it's time to do something with him.  But it looks like they don't know what to do with him.

They don't seem to want to start him, trade him, or send him down....

BD

nsmooth
nsmooth

Vic black and Mejia for Franklin, let's get this over with, it's exactly what Seattle is looking for, a bullpen arm and an extra starter. We got Vic black for nothin and there's no room for mejia next year anyway. Let's get our SS for the next 5years locked up.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

Why not?  He can start in bullpen this year then next year becomes a starter.

Fellows, fellows can you put aside for a while the hatress and accept Tejada as a good player let him fail or succeed this year. Then next year you can aim your METRALLA.

Aidan Maslow
Aidan Maslow

No thanks! I have no interest in repeating the same mistakes we made with Mejia! Montero should start wherever he is!

brownbear7
brownbear7

I really don't see how everyone that comments on this beautifully run blog/website thinks that this organization isn't going in the right direction. Sandy and other front office members have handled these top prospects in a great way in these past couple of years. They made some good offseason moves and I am quite confident that this season will be better than the last. You people that say we should dump d'aurnaud have no clue what limited big league exposure means. The only thing I am getting aggravated with, is the fact that we don't have a big league shortstop on this roster. I would rather have Quintanilla start over Tejada but I think we all suffered through that enough last year. I think everyone needs to just calm down and make your judgments at the All-star break seeing how no team has ever made it to the postseason in the first two months of he season. There is still no strong correlation between spring training and the regular season, keeping that in mind, go Mets!

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

I thought Montero was being developed as a starting pitcher, So, why bring him up to fill a bull pen spot?

BlackDynamite
BlackDynamite

Since Montero's been starting all this time, this would be an odd move, at best.

They have Torres to do long-man/spot starting.  He's not used to pitching 3 days a week, so they can't use him too much.

It's a sign that they like him enough to bring him North, but not enough to start him.

It may conserve his innings, but a more permanent bullpen roster spot is lost.

If he were going to be Torres, as the long man, I can see it.  Sounds like they don't know what to do with him....

BD

John Schod
John Schod

I have been rooting for Matt den Dekker, who is having a great Spring. He made an excellent throw to get a runner at the plate and short-circuit a Cards rally.

We need a starting CF who can play great in the field and hit with some power.

He is near the top of the Grapefruit League in hitting.

Worried about Vic Black...pitched great at the end of last season, but has struggled mightily so far this Spring.

Keith Allen-Verdi
Keith Allen-Verdi

Organization raves about young pitching,but when it time to get called up they don't act..At least give the fans some hope and start Mejia(who was great in the few starts from last year)..and Montero,who stuff wise deserves to be in the rotation.but they settle for Dice K and Lannon..Again they really have no clue

Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

Dump Davis before Wednesday and save some 3M.  You can than use that money and add it to the offer for Drew and give him an offer of $12.5M.  Maybe he takes it with the sweetened pot.  2 years 25Million. 

hashburry
hashburry

This team has no idea what it is doing.  Keep piling up broken down parts for the rotation, that's the ticket.

Ryan Doyle
Ryan Doyle

They tried it with Mejia n screwed him up

willymayshays
willymayshays

Montero = Mejia part 2?



I don't mind him going to the pen at all.   Just don't keep going back and fourth.  Let him become a starter in time OR if he looks awesome as a closer, don't mess with it. (aka jaba)

hankypanky
hankypanky

How strange. Not a single peep about Mejia.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Montero to the pen. An excellent idea, based on the practice of one of the most efficient, well-run organizations in baseball: the St Louis Cardinals. If and when the rotation falters, Montero will be ready.

drmetfan
drmetfan

Montero is not a bullpen arm. The Mets are going to screw up this kid. I rather them trade him for a SS than see the Mets mess him up.

mike23
mike23

mets should package d'Arnaud for a top SS prospect before other teams see his lack of hitting etc... Montero should be in the starting rotation, no reason to put him in the pen. This has to be one of the more poorly run teams in baseball. Wish they would have let Terry go and brought in someone with more guts. 

eric88
eric88

@BlackDynamite  They don't know what to do at 1B, SS, Vic Black who gets bombed every time he pitches, Matt DD, the BP, and Montero, as you mentioned. Very confused front office.

Mario Gonzalez
Mario Gonzalez

@nsmooth  If you're trading for a SS wouldn't it be prudent to actually get a player who can "play" the position? 

nolrog
nolrog

@Aidan Maslow The problem with Mejia wasn't that he came up in the pen.  The problem was that he was horribly mis-used by the Mets at the majors and subsequently in the minors, which ultimtely resulted in him blowing his arm out.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Completely agree. It's the same group of deluded fans that think Recker is a good backup, Pawlecki should be the opening day catcher, etc. You can reason with irrationality.

Gil Schwartz
Gil Schwartz

@brownbear7 I agree with you 100%.  I wonder how many on this blog actually have been a MLB GM.

They all sound like they have. I don't know how much longer they can watch Tejada go 0 for 4.

If they start him opening day and he continues to flounder he will have to buy earplugs because the boos will be

deafening.  


boodge106
boodge106

It is something a lot of teams are doing now to limit the innings of starting pitchers in their debut seasons. The Cardinals are probably the most famous team for doing this successfully the past few seasons.

Mike Scalera
Mike Scalera

@Keith Allen-Verdi  I suspect the thinking is something along the lines of:  Dice-K and Lannon can opt out of their contracts if they're not on the big league roster by a certain point (I forget when exactly), so bring them north.  If they fail, we still have Montero/Mejia to fall back on.  On the other hand, if Montero/Mejia come north and can't get the job done, Dice-K and Lannon might not be there to fall back on, plus you've started Montero's arbitration clock running.


I'd much rather see the kids starting, of course, but I understand the thinking behind bringing the vets north instead.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

My thoughts exactly I don't mind if they make him a reliever, just make a plan and stick to it. I just worry that if they make him a reliever (6th-7th inning guy) does that drop any future trade value?

dukewillie
dukewillie

@hankypanky  Maybe Sandy's involved in trade talks involving Mejia for Sandy's coveted SS?



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Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

@drmetfan  this is a tactic that many teams use.  Starting people in the pen gets them used to the majors and eases them in.  Michael Waca started this way and the Cardinals have done this for years.  I think it is a good move and makes it easier for the pitcher to step in and start with more confidence.

dukewillie
dukewillie

@mike23  Patience my friend. d'Arnaud has always hit in the minors and he will hit in the ML, IMO. Let's at least see what he does in April before we (especially me) start asking for his scalp.  

stemog
stemog

@mike23 Collins, for some reason, just doesn't give young kids a chance. Really pisses me off.

Andrew Sodergren
Andrew Sodergren

@Mario Gonzalez @nsmoothNot like Tejada or Quintanilla play the position all that well. And at least Franklin looks like he can hit. Besides, they can see if he can play there this year, then possibly pursue a free agent next year and move Franklin to second. Looks like they want to move Murphy anyway.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@boodge106  Wouldn't it be Mejia that needs the innings limit though since he pitched only a partial season last year? 

vimets
vimets

David Cone is a perfect example of this strategy.

mike23
mike23

@dukewillie @mike23  i'm just going by his major league at bats from last year and into this spring, many players hit well in the minors but he is showing no signs of a good bat, no power and has a hard time making solid contact...he will get a shot but I wouldn't be surprised if he just becomes an avg. catcher unless something dramatically changes in his approach. 

mike23
mike23

@Nicholas Catalano @mike23  I think he is over rated, the guy can't make solid contact, has shown no power and just looks over matched at the plate, same as he did last year, I will say he deserves more time to show what he can do but from what i've seen he just doesn't look like that great of a prospect. 

vimets
vimets

@Andrew Sodergren I agree with the Tejada/Q combo; that's just a disaster.

Realistically I don't think the Mets will be signing a free agent ss next year because JJ Hardy will probably resign with the Orioles, Hanley Ramirez will resign with the Dodgers and Jed Lowrie will probably sign with the Yankees.

That leaves Yunel Escobar, Asdrubal Cabrera and Steven Drew in which the

Mets most certainly won't give up there first round draft pick to sign. I like a trade for Nick Franklin but only to play ss, the Mets already have there future 2b with Flores. In 2009 Franklin was a first round draft pick (#27) and he's playing up to his potential, so the Mariners are going to want equal value in return.

Andrew Sodergren
Andrew Sodergren

@vimets Don't know the future, just know there are going to be more shortstops available next year. And if Franklin proves he can handle the position, there will be no need. My main point is they shouldn't roll with the putrid Tejada/Q combo yet again, especially with first base and catcher still carrying question marks offensively.

vimets
vimets

@Andrew Sodergren and what free agent ss will they pursue next year?

Andrew Sodergren
Andrew Sodergren

@Mario Gonzalez @Andrew Sodergren@nsmoothExcept Franklin played shortstop in the minors last year, has much more speed/range than Flores. His main question on D is his arm. Really depends on the prospects you're giving up. Granted, I'd much rather go with Flores than Tejada or Q, but it just doesn't seem they believe he can play short. They should be trotting him out there every day this spring, yet he has just two starts.

dukewillie
dukewillie

@mike23 @dukewillie  In that case, and I agree you could be correct, let's make sure we keep Plawecki. This kid rakes with the bat!

boodge106
boodge106

He has never shown Piazza-esque power in his career, that is not the type of hitter he is. He's a line drive, gap power hitter. At this point we don't know how he will pan out, but you certainly don't give up on a first round draft choice catcher based on his first 100 at bats. I'm glad we as fans don't have control over roster management, some of these comments are downright scary. If the Mets can get .270-.280 and 15 or so HR along with good defense and game calling it puts them ahead of 90% of teams in the catching department.