Mets back to struggling with RISP

The Mets got 13 hits, but were just 2-for-15 with runners in scoring position, leaving 11 men on base, during Sunday’s loss to the Pirates.


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“We left a lot of guys at third base,” said Terry Collins, a week after scoring 25 runs in three days. “You think you’re out of it, you think you’re swinging good, and it comes back. It’s just one of those games where we didn’t get the runs in.?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Their results with runners in scoring position is weak. They are not very good at situational hitting, going with the pitch and just putting the ball in play. This has been going on for years. That said, even if bumped up to average, it would only add on around 10 extra runs on the season, which I don’t think would drastically alter their record. The problem isn’t so much how little they hit with runners in scoring position, it’s how they hit… period.




156 comments
donw
donw

"It's just one of those games where we didn't get the runs in."  Terry, with all due respect, it's insulting to hear you say it's "just one of those games" when you can use the exact same quote for at least 80% of the games played this year . . . and last year . . . and the year before that . . .

Salvatore Ingrassia
Salvatore Ingrassia

the bottom line is that the mets want to prove to everyone that tejada is the answer at ss because they dont like admitting when theyre wrong.... if i were the manager i would have flores playing everyday at ss and eric campbell playing in the of every instead of young jr and CY

archer41
archer41

The reason why?  It's a poorly constructed team, plain and simple.  

Zac Tindall
Zac Tindall

Well they changed him to 1B maybe they are gunna move duda

philaw
philaw

FLORES!!!!!!! HE GOES DOWN AND IS AGAIN TEARING IT UP..Has played 1B, 2nd, SS and 3rd....what more can this kid do to deserve getting playing time to show what he can do.  Bring him up..slide him into the 3 hole behind Murph and Lageras...move TDA up from the 5 to the keep Duda 4 or Brown (until Wright comes back) and Grandy 6..  The team will have some protection in line up and will score runs....

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

Switch around the lineup. This lineup has been stale for a while. Bat d'Arnaud 2nd, bat Muprhy 4th, Bat deGrom 3rd I don't really care just do something to shake this team up a bit.

Rich
Rich

The Mets should let Wright opt out of his contract. They have a potential bat in Flores that they abused and decreased his value to play an average fielding no offense shortstop, and a 1st baseman that is an automatic out against lefties. This organization is becoming and embarrassment. Don't get mad because they didn't sign any bats. Get mad that no offensive players want to be here is o get fd with by Collins and crew.

Gary Westhoff
Gary Westhoff

I've always joked, many many many years from now, put on my grave: "The Mets threaten: they do not score." ---Bob Murphy

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Actually it would Matt bc they are in some many 1 run games. Maybe they woulda won 3 or 4 more games w those 10 extra runs.

                   It's obvious this team is not going anywhere as it is Again! I've been a Mets fan for 45 years now and since the current ownership has taken over, another obvious thing is; they Lie! How many Lies can we take as fans. Remember "This is your year"  nonsense! I know baseball is a business but maybe they should be in another business if they can't figure out how to put at least a 500 team on the field. I bought season tickets for 20 years, their not getting any more of my money until they give me something worth 7000k for tickets. I've been to a few games this year and its not even worth the aggravation of the 120 minute commute to the ballpark, not to mention all the tolls and if I bring my family a couple of hundred dollars more in food, snacks. 

The roster is full of minor leaguers  that should never be in the majors....If I wanted to go see a minor league team, at least it would be for only a few bucks with no aggravation and at least a chance at winning the game. I'm tired of losing, suffering year after year and defending a team that really only has 2 or 3 good players.  

sandybgone
sandybgone

Oh Flores played 1st base last night (4 different positions since he has been in AAA)..talk about ruining the potential of a kid...mets screwed him and I hope they trade him so he can get his chance with a more functional organization.

nhmetsfan
nhmetsfan

I would definitely trade to get Matt Kemp, but

1-Dodgers wont trade him and

2-We have nothing they would want except better delis and broadway shows

We need to suffer through this miserable year, trade Colon for prospects , consider trading Neise for a real 1B (any ideas) and sign free agents next year (Melky Cabrera and JJ Hardy). 

spelletrader
spelletrader

Plawecki is not off to a good start in Vegas, don't look for him to come up any time soon.

Flores is hitting in Vegas, 6 for 17 with 2 doubles and 4 rbi. He went 0 for 5 his first game back there, which was most likely because he was upset about being back in Vegas. The kid can hit, he needs playing time in the majors.

Matt Reynolds is just tearing it up in Vegas, 382/405/559 in ten games. If you get just 65-70% of that production up here he's way better than Tejada.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

This team has problems hitting sac flies..nuff said.

sandybgone
sandybgone

It is July...not sure what to expect at this point....roster was not great before the season and they are definitely as advertised midway through.....you just cannot survive 162 games with half of your roster still underperforming on the last day of June. yeah the Tejadas and CY's and d'arnauds and camp bells will have hot streaks but they are not good enough to take this team to the next level

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

The hitting isn't gonna be there since the crackdown on the roids. The Mess are going to have to learn how to play small ball. Base running. Knowing when and when not to take an extra base. Hit and run. Using speed-stolen bases. Moving runners along.  Situation hitting. OMG  The HORROR!

Sean Garcia
Sean Garcia

I hate to say it but I think this is just who the mets are gonna be until we develope some of our own superstars we won't be contenders until guys like nimmo ,plawecki , hopefully conforto and Dilson come up . Idk that's just the way it feels

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Salvatore Ingrassia I think that's the reason we still see CY with the team, but not so much on Tejada. I think with Tejada it's honestly just they have no one else right now. I'd like to see Flores develop, but not at SS. I just don't think his defense is good enough to warrant him there, especially with who they have at 2B.

upstaphan
upstaphan

Nope. Ruben Tejada is blocking him, and he's having a really great month! Sorry

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@Rich Stop listening to ESPN, the sports world does not revolve around the NBA.  There are no "opt outs" in "guaranteed" Major League contracts.  Mr. Wright is the face of the franchise regardless of what you think of him.  He's not going anywhere.

You seriously think Flores should start?  The only good thing that happened when that man got a starting job was that Tejada  got serious and started to shorten up his swing.

Flores is the one who should be packaged in some sort of trade deal.  The Mets need a real Shortstop now, not another Daniel Murphy project.

shoes
shoes

@sandybgone It's too bad he covers ground like Mo Vaughn. Please let him go spend his days with Victor "mini manny" Diaz in the dustbin of never going amount to anything. 

spelletrader
spelletrader

And he is still putting up solid numbers with his bat.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@nhmetsfan You really don't think the Dodgers would shed his $117.5 million remaining contract over the next 5.5 years in a heartbeat if they could? Why, b/c he's such a great cheerleader when he's on he disabled list?

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

@spelletrader  I'm intrigued by Reynolds. He wasn't supposed to have a great bat, and didn't hit a ton last year, but this year he's been absolutely tearing the cover off the ball all year. If we can get him back over to SS and he keeps hitting he could be something.

Vincent Santiago
Vincent Santiago

@spelletrader Travis is doing just fine since he got called up what would Plawecki contribute to this team that Travis isn't already contributing?  I'm convinced Flores is going to get traded at some point, the mets apparently hate his defense which is the only reason I can see them not throwing Tejada out of a window.  

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@spelletrader I think it was more likely b/c the poor kid (Flores) probably hadn't played the game of baseball in 2 weeks....

stemog
stemog

@spelletrader So you tear it up in Vegas and you're ready, but don't tear it up in 5 games and you're not?

spelletrader
spelletrader

Too many position players have trouble hitting the ball out of the infield.

hankincolo
hankincolo

@Sean Garcia Conforto, forgot about him. We also might not see him until 2016? :(
 :(

ken1010
ken1010

@Sean Garcia

We've drafted and developed just a handful of great position players in 50 years - Strawberry, Wright, Reyes - plus a bunch of decent players like Alfonzo, Mookie, Harrelson, HoJo, etc.  The odds of our prospects turning out great and giving us a good lineup are low.  Met's a far better at developing pitchers for some reason.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Sean Garcia That's the way it is for most of the league nowadays though. The free agent market just isn't what it used to be. Teams have learned to extend their young stars early, buy out their arbitration years, and manage to keep them into their early 30's. So even if they do sign a mega-contract with another team, as Cano did this offseason, they're signing it when they're almost certainly entering the down-swing of their career.


You really can't buy championships anymore. Teams HAVE to develop their own players to win now, regardless of the market they play in.

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

@upstaphan Ruben would block Cal Ripken Jr. if Terry were the manager. But we are collecting prospects and controlling them and when they all reach the majors together we will have a 10 year dynasty. That is the plan. 2017-2027. 

sandybgone
sandybgone

wow Victor Diaz lol...his best moment was that home run against Latroy Hawkins to help knock the Cubs out of contention

nhmetsfan
nhmetsfan

@Vincent Santiago @nhmetsfan 

At corner outfield postion, Id take him over CY,EY ,Kirk or minor leauge D'Jour

but , I dont see the Dodgers needing aything we have.

spelletrader
spelletrader

Agreed, Kemp hasn't had an ops above .800 since 2012. Injuries are catching up with him and he's on an obvious decline.

shoes
shoes

@Eddie_Dean @spelletrader Tearing it up in AAA Las Vegas isn't the same thing as tearing it up at The Show. Flores hit (or didn't hit) .225 in majors. He is not anyone's future. And. He. Can't. Field.

spelletrader
spelletrader

@stemog Are you talking about Plawecki? No five games is nothing in a jump of levels, but the organization is going to want to give him time to adjust after a slow start. I'm not saying if he's ready or not, just don't look to see him on the big league club anytime soon.

metstastic
metstastic

@ken1010 This franchise has always been "pitching first". Sandy has started drafting position players earlier.. Hopefully, we will see some of that coming to help in a couple of years.

mingo
mingo

@ken1010  We didn't draft Hojo. He was a Tiger's product.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@sandybgone It's as if a year ago they saw their best offense prospect and said "how can we most efficiently ruin this kids life?"

Vincent Santiago
Vincent Santiago

@nhmetsfan @Vincent Santiago but why would you give up one of the better left handed pitchers in the NL in Niese to get a guy who will give you subpar production?  Do you want to move gold to get back crap? Also like you said the Dodgers don't exactly need anything at this moment.  

nhmetsfan
nhmetsfan

@Vincent Santiago @nhmetsfan 

I would not trade Niese for Kemp. Id try to get more for him.  

I also dont think the Dodgers will trade him without assuming a lot of salary, so I guess if all they want to do is unload some salary, they might trade him. However, I think they are the Anti Mets and dont care about payroll.