Mets averaged just one run this past home stand, where are Curtis & Murph?

“Not much,” Terry Collins replied Sunday, when asked what he has been seeing lately from his team’s offense. “We’re not swinging very good.”

His team is hitting .210 in August.

They have scored the fewest runs in baseball since the All-Star break.


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: It’s interesting that, while the Mets struggle to hit, and we all daydream about Sandy Alderson trading for a bat, the Cubs are doing home-run trots around Citi Field.

These two teams match up so well together, the Mets need a shortstop, the Cubs need a pitcher, the Cubs have shortstops to deal, the Mets have pitching to deal, there has to be a fit here…. there has to be.

This home stand was brutal for Mets hitters. Frankly, outside of that one stretch before the All-Star break, Citi Field has crushed this team’s ability to score this season, while having very little impact on the opposition for some reason. The Mets averaged just one run a game during the recently-concluded seven-game stretch at their home ballpark, while hitting one home run and striking out 19 times.

Daniel Murphy is lunging and off balance, David Wright is hurting and Curtis Granderson has one hit in his last 25 at bats. If these three guys are not hitting, it’s understandable that the team would score just one run a game. In other words, Sandy Alderson, keep calling the Cubs…




40 comments
Bill Myatt
Bill Myatt

THIS TEAM LACKS MOTIVATION STARTING WITH THE HORRIBLE MANAGER, COLLINS, IT IS TIME FOR HIM TO HANG UP HIS SPIKES!!! THERE IS NO FIRE ON THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW AS THEY NEED A MANAGER THAT WILL CREATE SO FIRE IN THIS TEAM!!!! THEY HAVE A MINOR LEAGUE MANAGER IN LAS VEGAS WHO HAS THE 51'S IN FIRST PLACE AND WINNING EVEN WITH ALL OF THE PLAYERS THAT HE STARTED THE SEASON WITH NOW ON THE NEW YORK TEAM THAT IS GETTING CLOSER TO LAST PLACE IN THEIR DIVISION. THAT MANAGER HAPPENS TO BE A MEET WHO PLAYED SECOND BASE ON THE LAST MET TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES. HIS NAME IS "WALLY BACKMAN"

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Its those damned Camo uniforms. God, they are hideous. Military Monday. Oops, the guns were firing blanks.

Philip Bornstein
Philip Bornstein

It is insulting that we have to watch this team gets 4 hits a game, score no runs, and no one is held accountable.  where is the yelling and screaming?    we need george steinbrenner!  

bk_shogun
bk_shogun

Cerrone, which homestand are you referring to? The 6 game stretch vs the Cubs and Giants where the Mets averaged 3.7 runs per game? Or the current stretch vs the Nationals and Cubs where the Mets are averaging 3 runs per game thus far? And 19 stikeouts? 30 seconds of fact checking reveals that the actual number is 41. 41 strikeouts by Met hitters during the current homestand. 

You're not even close with this nonsense, and you've graduated from just being phenominally lazy and inept to fabricating information. You need to give this up dude, stop embarrassing yourself. Your readers should be furious at the laziness and lack of respect you demonstrate 

A Pocono View_
A Pocono View_

And they needs more than just 1 bat, they need a couple bats for next yr..I know a lot depends if travis , and den decker materialize as hitters..they'll need more than 1.

dmak
dmak

I just don't understand why we would be willing to give up 2 or 3 top pitching prospects AND a bat for an unproven SS prospect, when we've got a SS prospect right in our own farm that were testing out. You Know injury will befall at least 2 of the pitchers next year and we will quickly need all of our prospects to step up. 

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

This is called The Hot August Cave In,we're lucky we won the first 2 games, maybe they ought to take up knitting!!!!!!!! That's what Grandma did to relax her!!!!

rock44
rock44

"for some reason..." LMAO!

The rease is we have terrible hitters.  Other teams have no problem hitting homers at Citifield.   And it's not even just homers!   We don't hit at all!   If Citi is such a huge field, which it's not, we should be getting doubles and triples galore.  But we don't even have XBH players.    When will Sandy & Co be held responsbile!!???

Hank Lee
Hank Lee

"If these three guys are not hitting, it’s understandable that the team would score just one run a game"


I think the problem is really that there are only 3 players opposing teams are even worried about ... if Tejada/Lagares and even Murphy are hitting well, they still aren't really significant XBH/RBI threats. Duda when hot is a threat, so are Granderson and DW (who hasnt really been hot yet all season).


They need 2 additional bats that can hit homeruns.

Pauly Pins
Pauly Pins

Murph has been doing it all year curtis blows all year.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Bring back Hudgens. Oops, I guess that won't work either.

matt greco
matt greco

the answer is obvious...move the fences in.  no need to get players that can actually hit the ball.

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Nice job Alderson getting those bats we needed for those meaningful August and September games. SMH

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

The whole team looks like its in "MAIL IN MODE".

ny12jets
ny12jets

The same old, same old. No hitting.  Everyone on this blog saw this coming.  Other GM's making trades that shake up the team or add value to the major league roster.  Not our GM.   Don't Re-sign Sandy.  He re-built the farm system, but he's clueless with the major league roster. 

The Third Lantern
The Third Lantern

B-b-b-but Sandy has a Euclidian Proposition that clearly shows we're 114-48!

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Matt, Where are Curtis and Murph? Your comment should be on the whole team. When the Mets have a good offensive game it usually last just for that game. There is no offensive consistency with our Metsies.

robby
robby

I agree that Granderson was a bad signing.  I was not in favor of signing him.  His good days are long gone.  The problem is not citifiled but the quality of hitters we have.  Can't Sandy see that we need help?  SHEEESH!

Stop using the field as the scapegoat, its the team and the organization. The fans will start to care once the organziation does. Stupid letters to the fans to support this team regardless of their disintersted approach to building a roster is embarassing. If you can't put money into the team to field a decent team then sell the franchise. Maybe Manfred will hold their feet to the fire.

The Mets must be the only team to ever play in a big ballpark. Its such a cop-out and as everyone pointed out, not even the real problem. The team doesn't score runs because their player are not good hitters. Granderson is not a lead-off hitter and he strikes out constantly. Murphy is a good hitter but it very streaky and Wright has been in a serious decline for years, can't stay healthy and looks to be mailing it in. He's not any good anymore and if all it took was Citifield to bring him this far down then he must not have really been that good to begin with. Stars that come into Citfield never have a problem performing for the other team. It was built for guys like Reyes, who they couldn't sign because they never bothered to engage him..D'Arnaud is figuring it out and Duda is at least resembling a real player but the rest of the team is bad and every 2-1 loss shows it. Terry makes horrible in game decisions, he holds no one accountable and the ownership holds no one accountable either. If the organization cared they could have signed a couple more players this year without leveraging the future and still kept payroll to a reasonable amount. They don't care about the fan and as a result the fans shouldn't go see them play. Sandy built a team around players with high strikeout totals and a bullpen build mostly on players who don't throw strikes. Its a poorly built organization with a poorly built team with no interest in actually fielding a decent product.

wingo43
wingo43

Granderson was a bad signing.  I knew it at the time.  A declining player.  Now Wright is beginning to decline (yes, I understand he's hurt, but this is how is starts).  He used to be a 30 HR/100 RBI guy.  These days .... not so much.

elcondor
elcondor

Cubs also match up with the Orioles who can offer some good young Pitching for Second baseman. Still think Synegaard for Addison Russell is the best fit here. Bryant is untouchable, Soler is an important piece that they desperately need. Baez fits better as O'S. 2B than Mets SS. Castro looks like a guy you build around, thus I'm left with. Thor for Addison

birtelcom
birtelcom

"...Citi Field has crushed this team’s ability to score this season, while having very little impact on the opposition for some reason."


For the season as a whole, that statement is not accurate.  For the season overall, Mets hitters are averaging 3.92 runs a game on the road and 3.66 runs at Citi, about a 7% drop in run-scoring by Mets hitters when they play in Queens.  But Mets opponents have been averaging 4.09 runs a game on the road and 3.54 runs a game at Citi, about a 13% drop. So in fact opposition hitters have suffered more from Citi's  tendency to reduce runs than Mets' hitters have.  


Matt's post tries to turn the statement true by prefacing it with "outside of that one stretch before the All-Star Break..."  
But that's essentially saying "Except when X is not true, X is true."     It's technically accurate but not very meaningful.   

ny12jets
ny12jets

Ok, I get it, they aren't scoring runs.  But they have average more than 1 run.  The current 6 game home stand 2.5 runs, the previous 7 home games 2.57 runs, and the previous seven game homestand prior to this 3.71 runs.  Are you talking Hr's, earned runs, ?

zoddie
zoddie

"Citi Field has crushed this team’s ability tunderground this season."

This is just some lazy, lazy reporting.

Even with this brutal homestand, the Mets have scored 3.9 runs per game on the road and 3.7 runs per game at home. That's hardly "crushing" the Mets offense. Not only that, but they have a better record at home than away so, if anything, CitiField has been HELPING the Mets this season.

I checked these stats on my smartphone while underground on the subway at stops on the N train. Matt, I'm sure you can spend a few seconds to fact check, too.

xplr
xplr

No reason to trade for a bat. Just keep on reducing payroll and expect another 75 win season....

Leif Granlind
Leif Granlind

It's not so much that Granderson has been awful, it's the signing of Granderson in the first place.  

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

I'm sure Terry was happy to put Tejeda back in the lineup. Those two bloop hits were just what we needed to kick start this offense.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

I don't like it when Citi gets blamed...it's a bad hitting team going through a slump which looks even worse with the lack of talent out there.

11gilkey
11gilkey

David Wright should not get a pass.  He hasn't contributed much all year.  And if his shoulder is that much of an issue than he should have dealt with it months ago.  He's been killing the team all year. 

zoddie
zoddie

A more detailed version of what I wrote before. This whole "the Mets can't succeed because of Citi" meme needs to end. Nothing wrong with a pitchers park.

Chris Molloy
Chris Molloy

@zoddie  You are worried about this blog getting season long information correct when A) This homestand is not completed as Matt states and B) Mets have avg. around 2.5 runs this homestand not 1.

Alan J Tepper
Alan J Tepper

@BringBackDaveTelghe Well "Citi Field has crushed this team’s ability to score this season" sounds a lot nicer than "this team lacks offensive talent."

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

The lack of attention to detail lately is...really noticeable... to say the least.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Exactly.  The Nats have a tons of talent.  They'd hit just fine here.