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Matt Harvey will keep waiting to throw off a mound

The Mets told Matt Harvey he will have to wait to throw from a mound until after July, he said to reporter Kristie Ackert (Daily News, July 15).

Harvey told reporters in late May that he expected to be throwing off a mound that week, but Sandy Alderson put it on hold. He said in June that he expected to throw off a mound in July. Instead, he’ll continue to throw off flat ground.

“I know if I get on a mound and something happens, it will be awful, just terrible to go through this again,” Harvey told Ackert. “But I also know that (general manager Sandy Alderson) will take the bulk of the criticism for it if something happens to me. I get why they want me to wait, but it doesn’t make it easier.”



Alderson has said that, although Harvey may wish to make five to seven starts this season, the Mets want him to wait at least 11 months after his Tommy John surgery before he pitches in a game, which is standard protocol and the doctor recommended time frame.

Harvey’s agent, Scott Boras, recently said pitchers rehabbing from Tommy John surgery should wait 14 to 16 months before pitching in a game.

Harvey had Tommy John surgery on Oct. 22, 2013. He has said he would like to go in to the off season knowing he’s capable of pitching in a game, so that his off-season routine can be as close to normal as possible.




35 comments
L.a. Henry
L.a. Henry

Harvey is too good a pitcher to rush back from TJ surgery. I understand his wanting to contribute, but the best thing for the TEAM is to stay  the course and be 100% ready for next year. Good luck, Matt!!!

hankypanky
hankypanky

I see Dr. Harvey has been cracking his high school biology texts again.

elcondor
elcondor

Tough surgery Chad Billingsly never came back from it. Don't expect Harvey to be the Harvey you remember. Loss of velocity 3mph is common First year back is often a struggle. When the GMs on this site create your 2015 rotation difficult to consider Matt a. #1

Kevin McManus
Kevin McManus

Matt will eventually grow tired of this organization. When he is eligible for free agency I can see him leaving us for the Yankees.

darkknight
darkknight

I'm just happy I'm not the one making these decisions. It's clear waiting is the safest option, but is any option really safe? Harvey making a late return still sparks my dreams at night.

dtlmetsfan
dtlmetsfan

He should keep quiet and plan to return next April. 

Does anyone else think there is more to this. Like there has been a setback or he reinjured that arm.

foophilly
foophilly

Can he pitch in the AFL? Or what about winter ball? It may not be against ML competition but it's still real game situations.

semperfi
semperfi

Boras says there's proof that shows 14-16 months is best which puts him ready to roll for spring training, no reason to rush this kid this year, Matts seems to make a villain out of SA when his agent is preaching to wait longer, stop your whining and shut your mouth and just be ready to kick ass in 2015!

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

I feel like the Mets just have lost all credibility when it comes to deal with any kind of injury.  It's probably smart to hold Harvey back but the only reaction I can muster is "more bs from the Mets that somehow saves them money and creates more excuses why we can't add to the roster to make a run"

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

They want him to wait 11 months? Ok, no problem, come back and make a start in final week of season as the Mets make a miracle run to the division and then lead them in the postseason. :-)

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@elcondor Yet Stephen STrasburg and Adam Wainwright came back just fine from it.  I'd categorize the talent from Harvey in the same boat as those two and not Billingsley, plush his mental make up is much stronger.


Wainwright had a sub 4 ERA his first year back and his 2nd half of that season was 7-5 with a 3.28 ERA. 

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@elcondor I think Phil Hughes might be another apt comparison.  He was a flamethrower and the consensus top prospect when he came up, not the same pitcher after TJ.  He's since learned to pitch and is enjoying a solid season although not the dominant force he was projected to be. 

Starz31
Starz31

@Kevin McManus The fact that he his upset with the organization is all speculation. Yeah, they may be hard on him at times but he understands. He gets it. 

And in regards to the handling of his injury, the team is doing everything by the book, maybe even more conservative. And that's the way it should be for such an important piece of the team. 

His agent is actually requesting Harvey to be even more conservative than the team, so this is not just the organization's philosophy. 

jenkins
jenkins

no. Everything about this is normal.

foophilly
foophilly

I don't think so. Just being cautious. He's on the same schedule approximately as Hefner. Hef's surgery was 2 months before Harvey's. Hef first threw off a mound in June and pitched in a rehab game in July. Harvey will throw off a mound in August and maybe pitch in rehab games in September. So that's a 2 month difference in when they started throwing off a mound.

darkknight
darkknight

Well someone clearly forgot to tell Matt then

showstoppa
showstoppa

@semperfi  did I just read a different article? SA ? Villain? Where did Harvey make him a villain? He clearly stated that SA would take heat for a setback? He's aware and understands. Sorry but I don't peg the guy to be a whiner

elcondor
elcondor

Yeah, hoping Harvey comes around like Strausberg. He had the surgery in 2010 and is pitching very well. Velocity down a tick but he makes up for it in his pitch selection. Tanaka should go ahead and have TJ Surgery, only a small handful of guys get well thru rehab

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Macacawitz Hughes was never that BULL Type of a pitcher. and also other than a short stint of games he was never a good pitcher all together. He was always a 4+ ERA pitcher. 

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

@darkknight his is what Im talking about.  the way info comes out always leads me as a Mets fan (and Im sure others) to question everything

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

@Pete Brilvitch @Jayson Love I am speaking in general.  Leading up to this point the Mets have never been straightforward nor honest with information regarding injuries.  I know some of that can be tactful, but this isn't the case with the Mets.  Because if the way the Mets have handled injuries, such as Ike Davis's DTD turning into a full season for example: I just have a  hard time accepting anything they say.  If you want to look specifically at this injury, all Harvey states is that he is ready to start throwing off a mound and the Mets holding him back.  Again, I probably think this is the correct approach, but why are we evenhearing from Harvey's camp?

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Lee Lewin @Macacawitz You obviously didn't see him when he came up or read the projections on what he was supposed to be.  He was dominant, just got hurt sooner than Harvey did.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Jayson Love @Pete Brilvitch  Harvey has wanted to accelerate his rehab from day one. The Mets have  been more conservative in their approach and it appears that Boras is actually on their side.

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

@Pete Brilvitch @Jayson Love Again, not talking completely about this injury, but again, I just tend to take everything I hear from the Mets as bs with regards to injuries