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Matt Harvey is still in the dark about throwing off a mound

Matt Harvey still has no idea when he’ll be allowed to throw off a mound, a team insider told reporter Adam Rubin (ESPN, June 20).

“He is waiting for the powers that be to give a date,” the source said.

Harvey told reporters in late May that he expected to be throwing off a mound early last week, but Sandy Alderson put it on hold.

In the meantime, he continues to throw off flat ground.

In addition, Alderson said last week that, although Harvey may wish to make five to seven starts this season, the Mets want him to wait at least 11 months after his Tommy John surgery before he pitches in a game, which is standard protocol and the doctor recommended time frame.

Harvey had his surgery on Oct. 22, 2014, which leaves only the final week of September for him to pitch in the regular season.

Harvey has said he wants to go in to the off season knowing he’s capable of pitching in a game.

“I think there are other ways that we can provide that kind of peace of mind (for him), whether it’s in instructional league or some other setting,” Alderson said. “So, that’s yet to be determined.”

The organization’s instructional league runs September in to October.

Harvey said he was caught off guard when the team stopped him Monday from throwing off the slope of a mound.

“They have a higher power,” he said, noting that he has yet to be told why his throwing session was postponed and when he’ll throw again. “I don’t know if somebody talked to a doctor or whatnot and they felt that things needed to slow down.”




39 comments
Andrew Ocieczek
Andrew Ocieczek

Jimmy FN Dempsey he has to start throwing at some point....... But he's being smart by taking it slow

mesmo
mesmo

Shut up, sit down and do as the people signing your paycheck tell you. Honestly, we all know you want to pitch. It must be frustrating, but shut up already. Everybody wants you to pitch as soon as possible, but it takes a year... At least... To recover fully from TJ surgery, no matter how good you feel. If you have medical questions about your recuperation, ask a doctor. Not a reporter.

Shawn Sparks
Shawn Sparks

Harvey wanting to proceed is not a problem.  The Mets deciding to slow him down isn't a problem.  The lack of communication is a huge, huge problem.  Just tell him, "Yes, things have been going great, but we feel like you need to slow down because _____.  Here's your new throwing schedule, and here's the overall plan to get you from today to your next MLB start."

Why must this club always makes things more complicated than they need to be?

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

My suggestion is that he wait until the morning when the sun is out.  It's not a good idea to throw off a mound in the dark. 

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Lay Low my man, we are going to need you for next years run!!!

metfan1965
metfan1965

Relax Matt. Heal properly. Seven starts at the end of what is turning out to be yet another miserable season will amount to nothing. You can best serve this frustrated and disgusted fan base by healing properly and doing everything necessary to get ready for 2015. I admire your drive and intensity and wish that trait could rub off on the rest of this organization. However, you need to slow down and get that elbow strong.

Chad Michael
Chad Michael

Love the intensity, love that he wants to be on this team, and I love that the guy just wants the ball in his hand, but honestly Harvey, take a look at the standings, take a look at the lineup, and realize that 5 to 7 starts at the end of the season will do nothing for the Mets this year.  I'm glad the Mets are holding him back and forcing him to take the proper time to heal.  No point in messing with the future for a few pointless starts.

Frank Garza
Frank Garza

Harvey needs to keep his mouth shut and rehab as instructed.

spelletrader
spelletrader

Mets need to look into picking up Yasmani Tomas, just defected from Cuba. It'll be a few months before he can sign, but he'd be a nice addition in left.

Phil Curtolo
Phil Curtolo

Is it just the Mets that make a habit of pissing off their stud pitchers/players?  First the Wiponzis publicly state that David isn't a star player, and now Sandy is publicly stopping the best young arm we've had since Gooden.  I know it means nothing, but it can't be making Matt Harvey feel good about his future with this team.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Every other pitcher in baseball knows the parameters coming off Tommy John. We have an individual who is in the dark about the limits imposed on him. For some, this passes for "swagger" or "fire." It has come to a point where the lines of communication have become blurred. Perhaps Harvey might consider throwing off the.mound too early and to heck with the consequences. After all, it is his career at stake. Forget what the team thinks.

Ricky Tan
Ricky Tan

Another Cuban hitter just defected, and he plays the outfield. Sandy please

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

I love Harvey and cant wait to see him pitch again, but what this team needs is another good RBI bat. Problem is when we get anyone new, they put the Mets uniform on and forget how to hit or couldn't hit in the first place.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

Anyone at this point not think the relationship between Matt Harvey and the Mets is going to end incredibly ugly one day?

owlnut
owlnut

Why be an idiot? I know Harvey is a bulldog but his reins are being pulled. His returning in 2014 is not necessary for the team. If the Mets were in contention for a playoff spot, then possibly let him try. The Mets are going nowhere so he should try to be as healthy as possible for 2015.

Father Dooley
Father Dooley

Five games out of first.  Everyone in the world, including the pope, knows the Mets need another bat.  Sandy must know this too, so I put this question to all of you in all seriousness:

What are our valid options? Are there any realistically?

dooley
dooley

Exactly. They made an entire story from, I don't know when I am going to be throwing off a mound right now, but I am throwing flat-footed

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Frank Garza Give me a break.  He's done everything right with his rehab and the only reason you hear anything about this is high level of media around the team.  You don't think other talented guys on other teams aren't chomping at the bit to get back out there?

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Frank Garza oh people need to stop whining about him having to keep his mouth shut. At least one guy on this team cares about wanting to do something great out on the field for the team. 

hankypanky
hankypanky

Harvey is on a collision course with the FO. Given his mental make-up he will be on a collision course with any other team he winds up with in the future.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Phil Curtolo They have seemed to go out of their way to piss Harvey off at times, but I have to say that this is one instance I'm actually on Alderson's side. Recovery from Tommy John is no small thing, and we've recently seen a number of pitchers have to go through their 2nd Tommy John, which I don't want to see happen to Harvey. Having him slow it down and make it all the way back in a reasonable amount of time, rather than speed up to make some meaningless September starts on a team going no where, makes a lot of sense to me.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Bob Burket I've said it for years, a Met uniform to a hitter who's had success elsewhere is like kryptonite to Superman.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Father Dooley It's kind of hard to say right now, for exactly what you said. It's June and the last place team in the division is only 5 games out of first. Everyone thinks they're still in it, so no one's selling right now. It probably won't be until after the all star break that realistic options become available. Although I have to admit, I'm starting to wonder what the Phillies might want for Marlon Byrd, assuming their season doesn't pick up....

ry110891
ry110891

@Father Dooley I think what Alderson struggles with is the fact that there are few good hitters in the league compared to pitching.  I believe that there aren't many options available that are worth it for trades. 

dooley
dooley

@BringBackDaveTelghe Check out mlbtraderumors.com

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@hankypanky his mental make up? the guy wants to win. he's not a criminal, doens't do outrageous things off the field that any other 25 year old wouldn't do. 


He's the furthest thing from a problem on this team.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Eddie_Dean @Bob Burket its funny, guys like Beltran, Delgado, even wright had no issues of driving in runs where there was a roster full of ML talent.


Get the Mets 8 hitters who are true ML hitters from 1-8 and you'll see RBI numbers go up. That means, no Duda, no Young, no tejada and a viable Catcher. 

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@ry110891 @Father Dooley You think Sandy "struggles" with this?


I've been all over Sandy this year, but come on...offense is drying up so quick right now.  The NL in total is hitting .249 / .312 / .388.  We're below average compared to the league but it's not nearly as bad as everyone pretends it is...in comparison.


That being said, the key isnt to be average, it's to be closer to the top of the pack...so how do we get there?

Mack Ownes
Mack Ownes

@ry110891 @Father Dooley Agreed. I was looking over rosters of potential trade partners earlier. There really aren't many guys out there that would be difference makers. More than likely most would come to New York and resemble Chris Young rather than Don Clendenon.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Lee Lewin @Eddie_Dean @Bob Burket Wright's never played anywhere else. But you have to admit that the list of hitters that have come into Flushing and done far worse than their career averages to that point is startlingly long. Jason Bay, Roberto Alomar, Carlos Baerga, Bobby Bonilla, etc etc etc.