Matt Harvey can’t be stopped and he shouldn’t be contained

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

This past Sunday, in tweet posted early in the day, Matt Harvey said, “2014 Harvey day will happen.”

Sandy Alderson told reporters: “Look, I can’t control what he tweets or says… If that’s how he feels, that’s his perspective and we’ll see where it goes.”

Harvey’s tweet was deleted later in the day.

The Mets have said since late February that Harvey will only talk with media in team-designated, group sessions, he will not be doing one-on-one interviews, as they look to minimize expectations and control communication about his recovery.

Alderson told the New York Post: “We’re looking to have him ready to go for 2015. There is no looking to have him ready for 2014.’’

Alderson has gone as far as to say Harvey will not be the story of this team in 2014. Instead, at the very least, he seems to prefer to push the discussion off until mid-summer, or about the time Harvey begins throwing from a mound, before openly talking about when he may or may not pitch in a big-league game.

Typically, a pitcher misses the entire next season after having Tommy John surgery. Alderson is wise to assume Harvey will be the same. That said, I love that Matt wants to be back yesterday. I love that he has no quit in him and I love how much he wants to be the best. It’s inspiring, and makes me feel better about this team’s future than anything happening on field right now, which is why it’s so disappointing how quiet the team is keeping his recovery.

He still has Twitter. He’s still going to have a mic in his face when he goes to a club or walks a red carpet with a supermodel in Manhattan this summer. He still communicates with beat reporters and fans. He’s still going to get magazine requests for interviews and photo shoots. Instead of deleting tweets and building walls, the Mets should just accept what they have in Harvey and start working with him, not against him.

To make matters worse, I’ve heard from more than one person in their clubhouse that Harvey was very insulted and dejected by having his locker moved from being around the big-league players in to the way back of the room. I remember being confused when I got to St. Lucie and looked around the room to see where his stuff was, only to be told he was in the corner by the showers. I don’t blame him for being embarrassed. I was embarrassed for him. I hope this only motivates him more than he already is. My first thought when I saw the location of his locker was: This is ridiculous, I hope he comes back and goes 30-0 next year. Imagine how he feels…

Lastly, let’s be honest, there is a decent chance his recovery ends up being more interesting in September than anything occurring in Citi Field. They may end up being able to charge more for his minor-league rehab starts than actual games. I hope this isn’t the case, but he’s that fascinating, promising and awesome that the team may want to reconsider how they view him.

Matt Harvey‘s fame and potential dominance — even when injured — is an asset to this franchise, not a threat… at least not yet.




62 comments

I'm as much a Harvey fan as anyone else, but lets face it, he blew his elbow out last year because he was overthrowing.  If he comes back too soon and tries to do that again, there's the potential that he really messes things up and it becomes a total loss.  But if he stops overthrowing, he's probably going to suck.  


So, as much as I hate to say it, he really needs to just sit down, shrink his head a little bit, relax, and recover properly.  Quit thinking you're the king of the universe.  He's had one decent season with some incredible starts, but that's about it.  A 9-5 record is not Doc Gooden material.

vandelay
vandelay

Virtually every player that has TJS would want to be back "yesterday" and not have to miss a whole year.  Harvey is great and all, but there is nothing particularly special about a pitcher who is going to miss a long time wishing he could be back ASAP and not miss a long time.


And I don't really see a big deal with anything the Mets are doing here.  The team needs to move on and play the year...they don't need to be asked tons of questions about Harvey every time he soft tosses in the OF or sends out a tweet.  And it's also good for the Mets to keep the expectation that he won't pitch this year.  If he gets back this year healthy, great... but they don't want to set that deadline as if he has to/should definitely be back this year....they are handling as they should.  Maybe moving his locker was a bit much, but still it's not really THAT big of a deal

Chris Tricarico
Chris Tricarico

Maybe if the Mets gave us something to be excited about in 2014, nobody would care about Matt Harvey's tweets.

The only story is that the Mets appear to be alienating a guy who is clearly working hard to get back to helping this team win. Maybe they asked him to keep quiet about his rehab, but why? Treating your ace pitcher like a child is not the solution. I can't believe we are even wasting our breath on this.

Shawn Sparks
Shawn Sparks

Fred's counting down the days until they can get rid of this troublemaker. He's also still counting the days since the Mets' last World Series appearance. The two things are not unrelated.

lindro88
lindro88

Last year Harvey admitted he was embarrassed with the way he came off in the barrage of articles he did. He's coming off as a guy who can't live without all of the focus being on him. I've read more about Matt Harvey possibly being ready to pitch in September, than I have about Zach Wheeler. This is a team with a season starting and we are worrying about where Matt Harvey's spring training locker is? Players get injured, they disappear, rehab and come back.

Eric Arnesen
Eric Arnesen

So when does the bloom come of the Jay Horowitz rose? He's supposed to be the PR guy but they keep making these mistakes. I'm begining to think this guy doesn't understand the new modern media.

Christopher Masiello
Christopher Masiello

I'd rather have to reign in a thoroughbred than kick a mule.

Love this guy!

licmetsfan
licmetsfan

It's not about the locker room change, it's all about this inept ownership that can ruin a wet dream. What he said should've been handled by both sides equally. Let Harvey know that he should not be so active and then say that as an organization that you are happy with his attitude to coming back but with his health and the teams future at risk that we will weight the options. It's not that hard but yet this dysfunctional ownership continues to lay down in ineptitude when it comes to player-personal relationships!!

licmetsfan
licmetsfan

WTF??? This is a none story and yet the Wilpons have to make this a story? I know they will not give up this team but for the love of everything holy, bring in someone that can handle this social medial craze. Harvey will drop these bums like a bad habit, and I won't blame him. Why can't they back him up? What's wrong with what he said? Is it wrong to get back and play and WIN? Why go and insult this guy who made us relevant again? Do the Wilpons want this team to suck and keep on insulting our players? First its Jose and Wright, now we have our sidelined Ace? Where do they draw the line? Get some better PR for the fans sake!!!

Steve Danziger
Steve Danziger

Sometimes I really wish that I didn't like this team.

Steve Musicant
Steve Musicant

It's one thing to coddle a player; it's another thing to treat him with some respect.  This kid COULD BE Tom Seaver 2.0.  What possible value could there be in pissing him off?  Move his locker to the back of the room?  Why?  If the object is to discourage him, and to disconnect him from the organization, the Mets are probably making excellent progress.  Alderson needs to curb his inner (and outer) Control Freak and talk to Harvey as men, respectfully, and point out the downside of public pronouncements like Harvey's made.

If his career goes as it appears it has a chance of going, I want to see Harvey spend it all in a Mets uniform and wear royal blue and orange in Cooperstown.  Be nice if they don't screw that possibility up right out of the blocks.

bsp123
bsp123

Pretty sure this is the worst run franchise in baseball.  The PR team, ownership, training staff and the front office are a mess.

Josh Buchalter
Josh Buchalter

Expressing enthusiasm about his rehab isn't being a diva. He should probably watch what he tweets a little but this is exactly the type of thing that makes him great. Either way, no matter how crazy he is, Mets need to suck it up and keep him happy.... or at the very least stop pissing him off. All they're doing is ensuring he'll be on the Yankees as soon as he hits free agency. 

There are ups and downs during the rehab process that he probably doesn't fully understand but there's no reason to shoot down a competitive guy who is excited by his progress. Why should we be pissed off that he wants to pitch and help his team as soon as possible? Someone needs to hand Alderson a script that reads "We're glad that Matt is feeling positive about his rehab process and want him back on the mound as soon as possible. With that being said we need to be prudent with his return to baseball and keep both his and the team's best interest in mind and will therefore get him in games as soon as both we and he feel it is safe and healthy to do so." It's really not that hard.

Mike
Mike

It used to be in the NFL when you tore your ACL you were done for the next season. Adrian Peterson and Wes Welker are two that have defied this and went to have very good seasons without missing the next season. Why can't Harvey do that if he feels that in 2014 he can take the hill at some point this summer? It is his body and his career.

wilpondscm
wilpondscm

harvey is nauseating and a typical dumb jock and needs to be put in his place. remember he challenged the veteran reliever to a fight for a basic hazing? remember his stupid dan patrick interview?  harvey,  just keep a lid on it and eat some humble pie. there is a good chance your best year is already behind you. 



and how do the mets not have a social media policy either? in my corporation is you use social media to talk about anything to do with the company it is subject to repercussions. 

The Feels band
The Feels band

His tweet to Rubin about Noah day is pretty embarrassing... 

chasesimms
chasesimms

When one of the guys tweets something and then deletes it that day, it's a good sign they need to stop tweeting. Harvey. Give it a rest.

Jim Flaherty
Jim Flaherty

Who the hell is making decisions like that about moving his locker in the locker room?  I can't imagine or would certainly hope it wasn't Sandy or his top lieutenants.      

metstastic
metstastic

Obviously, the new social media guy they hired is not doing a very good job because the Mets still do not know how to embrace social media.

John Capone
John Capone

LET THE KID BREATH BRO!! THE METS NEVER DO ANYTHING RIGHT!!! HE IS A WELL LIKED KID IN NY LET HIM DO HIS THING


Keith Appell
Keith Appell

It doesn't seem to matter who's running the Mets, too many of these penny-ante incidents occur. Moving his locker is juvenile, he started the freaking All-Star Game last year. Smarter people at other organizations find a way to manage these situations. It's difficult watching this happen over and over with the Mets and it causes me to wonder who really makes these types of decisions. Did anyone sit down with Harvey during the off-season and talk through a strategy for meeting his need to stay relevant while meeting the team's need to focus on the season at hand?  Yes, Harvey has an attitude - like many young and talented athletes -- but he hardly strikes me as a diva who is unreasonable. Perhaps I'm way off base but it just seems to me that, over the years, the Mets rarely (if ever) manage these situations well while other teams seem to do so (Cardinals/Carpenter, Nationals/Strasburg, etc.).

vimets
vimets

So they moved his locker, BIG F.....G DEAL !!!

This is MLB and as the saying goes " there's no crying in baseball"

stupidsth
stupidsth

The FO just doesn't understand the these young men have feelings.  Let our Star be himself!!!!!!

vimets
vimets

So they moved his locker, BIG F.....G DEAL!!!!

This is MLB and as the saying goes "there's no crying in baseball"

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Seems like the Mets are attempting to secure the loose cannon.  Good luck with that.  Nothing fascinating or awesome about having a look at me guy with a broken wing in a clubhouse you're trying to prepare for the season.  When your lifetime MLB record is 12-10, it might be best to exercise a little bit of discretion. 

Patrick Boegel
Patrick Boegel

@lindro88  Harvey is one of maybe three players on the Mets last year that earned their paycheck.  He deserves to be treated like the organization considers him the fabric of their future until such time as he is not.


All these little things come into play when a guy goes to ink his first big deal offered to him.  

lindro88
lindro88

Why is the FO a mess? Because Matt Harvey needs constant attention?

vandelay
vandelay

@Josh Buchalter  If self expression and not being controlled are that important to Harvey (and anything the Mets have done here is really that big of a deal)...the last place he'd go is the Yankees.

Patrick Boegel
Patrick Boegel

 Because at a corporation you are a cog in a wheel, on a baseball team, you could lose your best cogs the instant you begin to confine them in a box.  The Mets created the monster last year when Harvey started dominating and promoting his pitching days.

Joshua Shapiro
Joshua Shapiro

Really?  I thought it was pretty funny.  I think Harvey had his tongue firmly implanted in cheek there.

vimets
vimets

@Jim Flaherty It was the players that moved his locker.

paulyd
paulyd

I have dsagree here.  I LOVE Matt Harvey, but he needs to give it a rest.  He IS a diva for sure and he is starting to rub me the wrong way.  It seems to always be about him and not the team lately.  I understand he started the All-Star game last year and moving his locker is sort of asking for a problem, but Matt needs to understand that his focus is to rehab and get better.  Forget about tweeting he will be do this or that this will happen.  He is coming off to me as desperate for attention. 

I am a bit old school but "Man Up" and stop this "Me Me Me" mentality.  Get better, work hard and shut up.  This season shouldnt be about Matt Harvey.  Its about the team.  You want to pitch in September, Matt?  You goal should be to work hard so that the decision becomes very hard for Sandy not to put you in a game come September provided you are ready. 

Sorry to say but for now, stop talking and stop tweeting!!  :)

vimets
vimets

@Kieth Appell In the world of professional sports the organization doesn't have the opportunity to talk to there athletes, all communication is done through agents.

vimets
vimets

@stupidsth How do you know what the FO is thinking?

James Solomon
James Solomon

@paulyd I totally agree.  Before twitter and all this social media, players did there trash talking only one way.  On the field!  Get back on the field Matt, in a responsible time to not jeopardize further injuring yourself and win us some playoff games.  And until that time, make it about the team and not about you.  


Keith Appell
Keith Appell

@vimets Please, they can talk to Harvey any time they want.  They can also talk to his agent or include his agent. It only makes perfect sense to do so given what's at stake for all involved. It doesn't appear as if any serious attempt to think and talk this through was made. 

wilpondscm
wilpondscm

@Steven Matregrano  forgive people not given the skill to play MLB for not feeling sympathetic toward an entitled jock kid making in bonuses what many make in a year. this kid had one awesome year. boo-hoo his locker was moved. how about growing a sack and being a man an moving forward. this guy has too much time on his hands and too much of an ego not to be an annoyance and distraction,

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Steven Matregrano @vimets Right - expand this to an office worker.  Someone goes on maternity leave or someone is out injured for a couple weeks and comes back to their office being moved to a crap spot.  I'd be ticked.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Steven Matregrano @Macacawitz  Even if he had gone 19-0, he's still new and should keep his mouth shut.  His poor choices, chronic immaturity and lack of impulse control are becoming an issue for the team.  Gooden and Strawberry should have been first ballot HOFers, problem was that they never grew up.  The Mets are trying to prevent the same thing from happening with this guy.

vimets
vimets

@BringBackDaveTelghe This is America, when it comes to Rocks Stars,

Movie Stars and Super Star Athletes ... Human nature doesn't apply.

vimets
vimets

@Steven Matregrano I wouldn't take it personal, I'd take it as a sign.

vimets
vimets

@Steven Matregrano @BringBackDaveTelghe You can't compare

Matt Harvey to a bat boy or an office worker.

yesgomets
yesgomets

@Macacawitz  yeah but there is context. the Media, not Harvey, started the "Harvey Day" and "Wheeler Day" last year. similar to days when Dickey was pitching in 2012, it gave fans a nice buzz word to remember that even though the season was lost there were still exciting things to be seen.


Furthermore, this particular tweet was about someone's "day" and wasn't initiated by Harvey.


Look, do you want to make sure that your "young stud" of an arm doesn't burn his bridges and become a PR liability? Of course. Could Harvey end up going too far or too often with the confidence and get branded as "arrogant" or "diva"? Yes, it's a possibility. BUT, I, for one, am pretty freaking happy to see a mets player with some fire in their belly. 

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@Steven Matregrano  Harvey Day?  Seems rather self-serving.  When Jeter got hurt did he announce his return as Jeter Day?  Thought this was a team game?  He's immature and you're a clueless apologist for a chronically immature ballplayer.  When he fails it will because shills like you who co-signed his crap.  

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Steven Matregrano He's paid by the Mets, an employee of the Mets and any negative statement he puts out has an effects the team.

They absolutely have a say in what he's posting.