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Latest with Stephen Drew, trading with D-Backs and Mets SS situation

There is no momentum in talks between the Mets and free-agent SS Stephen Drew, sources told columnist Andy Martino (Daily News, Apr. 25).

According to Martino, Drew’s medicals and link to draft-pick compensation have scared off all interested teams, “and the there is nothing new between him and the Mets.”

Drew’s name has not appeared in a post on MLB Trade Rumors since early March, at which time he was reportedly still seeking a multi-year deal and willing to wait until June to find a new team.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

In late March, I said Ruben Tejada would get through at least April to keep the starting shortstop position. So far, it’s still his to lose. Tejada has looked better in the field, but he keeps struggling with the bat. In the event Tejada stumbles further, I believe Sandy Alderson will sooner promote Triple-A SS Wilmer Flores in May than sign Drew or trade for M’s SS Nick Franklin, who was all the rage in the rumor mill during February.

Frankly, I still feel Alderson’s best shot at trading for a shortstop is with Arizona. Team insiders said in March that low-level talks between the Mets and D-Backs were legit, as both teams spent time scouting one another’s systems. I’ve heard Arizona left liking Rafael Montero, Kevin Plawecki and Travis d’Arnaud. But, who knows what their goal is right now, given their recent struggles in the NL West.

In the event the Mets are still .500 in June, Tejada isn’t hitting, Flores isn’t ready and talks with Arizona remain quiet, maybe, maybe rumors about Drew will resurface. Otherwise, I think Drew’s best shot at a deal remains with Toronto, Detroit and Houston.




77 comments

Campbell lets see what he does ib===Montero   to arizone forss.

Chris Biehl
Chris Biehl

deGrom is not getting us either of those SS, he may become a serviceable arm in the pen, but at 26, he's not a prospect anymore and isn't in high demand around the league......I do believe the dbacks would make a great trade partner for the Mets if they go into dump mode.......Kevin Towers loves to wheel and deal, and if he allowed to keep his job, may want to shake things up.........I would go after Owings and Goldschmidt in a package deal

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

I forgot to include Mejia. That's 7 potential starters already. It's time to trade.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

deGrom will soon be 26 years old. He is not in the same class as Montero and Syndergaard. But he is close to be major-league ready if not already. Arizona needs immediate help. They chose Owings over Gregorius. Next season we will still have Niese, Gee, Harvey, Wheeler, Syndergaard and Montero. We can't start them all. deGrom becomes a long reliever if we keep him. And we have many more starting prospects on the way. We could afford to give up deGrom.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

How many eighth batters has four intentional walk this early in the season?

TEJADA IS OUR ss. PERIOD!

steve333
steve333

D'Arnaud, Tejada and Familia for Owings.and a prospect

D'Arnaud, Duda, Harvey, Famila for Owings and Goldschmidt


I await the furor

Joe Meyer
Joe Meyer

Montero should never be mentioned for a guy like gregorious

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

never trade top pitching prospects for anything short of major league talent. gregorius is only a slight upgrade over tejada and not worth a pitching prospect of degrom's ilk. perhaps a lower level pitching prospect like gnoa, but our AAA pitching is better than most teams' AAA hitting.

Robert Nolan
Robert Nolan

Don't trade top prospects like Montero for anything close to Owings or Gregorius. I could live with deGrom but feel it's a reach.

Stearnsfan12
Stearnsfan12

The Arizona SS aren't worth anything close to Montero, Plawecki, or d'Arnaud. Forget that idea. Promote Flores if you're not happy with Tejada. Trading serious prospects for less than stellar returns is a bad idea. Don't trade simply to trade. You can get better for the names mentioned on the Mets side.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

If Tejada were hitting as he was in '11 or '12, would he be a "ml SS" then?  It's amazing how short you people's memories are.  He hit .289 for an entire season TWO YEARS ago.  But, you just can't WAIT to run him out of town.  


Meanwhile, Nick Franklin was demoted to AAA, after being tried out in the OF, Gregorius is putting up decent numbers in AAA...IN RENO.  Which is the same as numbers generated in Vegas (which means they should be completely ignored), and the rest of the Ariz SS's (Owings/Pennington) have as many RBIs combined as Ruben.  And Flores...(sigh)...EVERYONE who talks about him playing SS says the same thing.  He can't play SS.    But, all of these guys are better options than the guy you already have in house?  And Drew...besides being overpriced, hasn't played ball since October.  


What is this mob mentality towards this guy?  I don't get it.  As if he's the ONLY guy under performing on offense.  

Doubleday
Doubleday

It's no secret what the Mets are going to do.  No trade.  No Drew.  Wilmer Flores has been playing SS exclusively in Las Vegas, night after night, batting 3rd or 4th.  Anthony Seratelli is so displaced by this new Wilmerism that he has been relegated to playing LF.  It doesn't take rocket science to know Wilmer will be replacing Tejada soon.  Forget about trading Murphy for a SS and bringing Wilmer in to play 2B - in 2014, Wilmer is all shortstop again.

Charlie Rode
Charlie Rode

The Rangers are in need of a utility infielder type and Murphy, as much as I love the guy could possibly net you you're future lead off hitting SS in Luis Sardinas. If the Rangers would do Daniel Murphy and Omar Quintanilla for Luis Sardinas I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat. I read an article about 2 weeks ago how the rangers were open to that idea, if that's true, this needs to get done. I love Murphy, I think he's a solid defensive 2B, clearly it's always going to be about what he does at the plate, which is very good production for a second basemen. He's also a very good clubhouse guy, but Luis Sardinas is a slick fielding SS who is fast and hits for a good average from both sides of the plate and could easily be the starting SS and lead off hitter as early as the start of next season. Move EY JR to 2B, call up Flores to play SS for this season to split time w/ Tejada. EY JR can lead off, Chris Young, Juan Lagares and Curtis Granderson man the outfield. Have Flores hit 2nd since he's a guy that doesn't strike out much and have Duda hit clean up. Chris Young 5th, Granderson 6th and play out the rest of the season and hope Flores and EY JR provide enough offense to make up for the lack of defense, if they don't, you always have Tejada, Muno, Tovar and the ability to sign a guy like Drew or make a smaller trade to solidify the defense up the middle.

bleck319
bleck319

Instead of playing SS and earning $9 million, Drew is mast*rbating to online porn and earning zero.

Ricky
Ricky

The Mets are winning but long-term everyone knows they need a SS


I would trade Arizona DeGrom for one of their young guys - probably Gregorius b/c Owings looks like he's there to stay


Even without DeGrom, we still have enough young pitching for almost TWO legitimate rotations with Harvey, Thor, Montero, Mejia, Wheeler, Gee, Niese, Hefner & Colon (the old man of the group)

hankypanky
hankypanky

Is Stephen Drew still in baseball? I thought he was in some rehab camp run by Boras.

rico
rico

Noone has declared the Wilmer is ready to be a shortstop yet. They're trying but it's not a given.  Time for the Mets to pick a few of these prospects (like wIlmer) and make a trade for a superstar hitter who can carry the team.  Probably happen after the all-star game when teams become buyers and sellers


On Drew I thought we were going revisit that in June, but i guess the blogmeisters couldn't help themselves:)

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

Won't drew still need a "spring training" once signed? Boras done f*cked up.

Ben Fortney
Ben Fortney

We've seen the guy for 4 seasons now, I think it's safe to say Tejada is NOT a 1st string SS. 


I was willing to let him "mature" at the position, but he's an average hitter at best, an average defender, a minus arm, with a minus baseball acumen. He routinely costs the team outs, and when all we've got is pitching we can't afford to leave outs on the field.

Ask yourself how many other teams he'd be starting on. The answer is not very many. He had his shot, he failed to perform, bring up Wilmer and let's take a look. 


Nothing personal, he's just not that good and I don't think he ever will be.

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

Looking toward mid-season, I'd trade Montero for Chris Owings, straight up. If d'Arnaud hasn't come around or he's OK, but not great, and teams are still interested, I'd move him. But, honestly, less than Owings would merit far less from the Mets: maybe deGrom + 1 lower level prospect for Gregorius. Franklin not worth it unless you're convinced you can carry a lesser fielder and he's proven to be better than Flores. Drew should've told the Sox not to make an offer - that was blunder by Drew and Boras.


Plawecki goes nowhere, for now. they'll need him.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

You're right about the June date with respect to Drew, by then I don't think we will sign him. I think Tejada has worked out his differences with Sandy and Terry, who did a number on Davis and were starting on Lagares and Wheeler and probably told to shut up by Fred and Jeff! No other team berates their players like the Mets!!!!

metsin2015
metsin2015

Wow, I can't believe some of you people.  I am starting to feel most Met Fans don't understand baseball.  Starting pitching, bullpen, defense and then offense is the order of importance for MLB teams to be successful.  If you bring up Flores, your defense will suffer up the middle and you never want to weaken your defense up the middle.  We need to go after improving the bullpen either through the minor leagues or by signing Hanrahan.  I understand Tejada doesn't have the best bat, but he is a very solid defensive ss.  He won us game three of the past series against the cardinals making a sick throw that not many ss make, especially not Flores or Drew.  I would love to see more offense too, but give it time, many teams are struggling at the plate.  Granderson will come around, so will C. Young.  We are in great shape to make a run for the wildcard this year and then make a run at it all next year.  Look at the Giants when they won twice with the great pitching and awful offense that they had.  Everyone relax we are in 2nd place and have played great teams all year so far, besides the diamondbacks.    

bigdirty
bigdirty

I value defense over offense at SS. Sandy and the Mets have 7 other spots to fill the offensive  needs of the team . I am not saying that Ruben is the answer but a so so upgrade on offense and a step down in defense is not what I want at ss. 


This team needs to be built around pitching, defense and timely hitting. SS is th emost important defensive position. No experimentation can happen up the middle. 


At this point, even if the mets sign Drew, it would take him probably 3 weeks to get up to the mlb. He missd all of camp and i dont know who he has been hitting off of. This teams future ss is not drew. 

Mike Garrison
Mike Garrison

Please don't trade Montero. I feel he's going to be the better out of himself, Noah, and Wheeler. 

Ryan⚾️Bell
Ryan⚾️Bell

They have to bring up Flores they don't have a strong enough lineup to keep Tejada playing everyday

Ronnie Taveras
Ronnie Taveras

You can't have Flores playing SS everyday in the majors. If Tejada can play solid D and bat at least get on base 30% of the time and if he can't that either (still too soon to gauge) then I'll consider Drew in June but until then should just let it play out and eventually other SS will become available.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@rstpigeon The Sox made a qualifying offer to Drew in order to receive draft pick compensation. The mistake that Drew and Boris made was not accepting it.

helloboy
helloboy

@rstpigeon  Plawecki is expendable because you still have Centano, who can hit for a better average and OBP and has better defense.  The only thing Plawecki has more of is extra base hit power, which will not matter much for a seven or eight hitter.  Centano can hit 2, 7 or 8.  

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

@Not4Nutten  What the hell are you talking about? Working out his differences? What does that even mean. The guy can't play. I don't care if he's on managements good or bad side. It doesn't change the fact that he sucks. 

helloboy
helloboy

 I agree.  I think the Mets are in better place and the offense is better.  I disagree that Tejada is "solid" defensively.  He made some plays, but let us not think he is above the bottom 25% of SS defensively in the league.  The Mets can trade for any of the AZ SS and improve both defense and offense.  I do agree that Flores is not the answer as I am not sold on him at all.

slainte2
slainte2

@Victor Triguero you are exactly right.


Tejada is a backup.  He does have a career .300 average against LHP, and that's his value.


Get Didi (who hits lefty), and let Ruben get a start at either SS or 2B against every LHP we face. 

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Ronnie Taveras What makes it real tough to evaluate is you can't just look at the OBP for Tejada.  The 8 hitter in the NL always has a trumped up OBP because of intentional (and "unintentional") walks.  A .300 OBP, in his spot, would be so absymal he may be batting .220 or lower.

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

@Pete Brilvitch @rstpigeonThe relationship was good enough that they might have worked something out. I could be wrong. It's the onus of losing a pick, though, that's kept him from being signed. He obviously wasn't going to take the offer and he and Boras miscalculated the chilling effect that draft compensation would have. You're right, they should have taken it but taking it was never a considered option.

Nick Squatrito
Nick Squatrito

@helloboy @rstpigeon  So are you assuming no matter who our catcher is he's going to hit 7th? Or are you saying Plawecki will not be anymore than a 7 hitter? Pretty sure if he proves he can hit, and hit with power he will get moved up in the order...

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

@helloboy @rstpigeonI'm not optimisitc about the team acquiring serious RBU threats. So, a catcher who drives in runs and provides a power threat has some value, here. I wouldn't consider Plawecki as expendable as d'Arnaud until we see what the Mets do with Centeno. Ask youreself this, though, if Centeno is a better prospect, why isn't his name in the conversation?


As I understand it, he has not been projected to be as good a major-league hitter as Recker (that was the talk on Amazin' Avenue, this spring). If even the homers aren't big on him, why should we be?


It's Plawecki that everyone's looking at, both inside and outside the organization.

helloboy
helloboy

@JimmyBX182 @Ryan⚾️Bell  it would.  First off, you have 2 number 8 hitters.  1/3 of the order is practically an automatic out.  You need another bat and the one place you can get fit in is at SS.

Mike Garrison
Mike Garrison

@mets2death @Ryan⚾️Bell  Flores could possibly hurt this team a lot in the field. Tejada has played pretty good defense. 1 error in 77 chances, Flores has 5 errors in 87 chances in the minors. He's clearly not ready to play SS for the Mets. If the organization wants to win with a strong defense and pitching, that starts with defense up the middle. So unless Flores starts hitting .300+ in Vegas with power, and gets on base alot, I don't see that move ever being made. Not saying I agree with that 100%, but if they're winning based on their pitching, then they need the better defensive player playing. 


Tejada isn't the problem right now. It's the middle of the order, if they can produce, then we won't care about Tejada. Ordonez couldn't hit a thing, but was surrounded by a great lineup. 

slainte2
slainte2

@mets2death @Ryan⚾️Bell 

flores has talent ... he just doesn't fit our roster.  His best value is to trade him for talent that does fit.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@slainte2 @Victor Triguero If we trade a prospect for Didi, Franklin, or whomever, that SS better play everyday. A platoon with Tejada is not what we are looking for.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@rstpigeon @Pete Brilvitch I think the only reason the Sox made a qualifying offer was that they'd knew Boras would never accept it. Not sure what you think they could have worked out. Boston would have been foolish not to make an offer and let Drew walk for nothing.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@slainte2 If a trade should happen, Tejada should be nothing more than a backup playing once every couple of weeks. While most starters are right handed, I wouldn't want to see Tejada playing twice in a series because a team happens to throw 2 lefties at them.

slainte2
slainte2

@Pete Brilvitch

the LH hitting side will play 4 out of 5 games b/c most starters are righty.  Split Tejada between two positions and you end up with Didi and Murphy each playing 9 out of 10 games.