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Latest on Stephen Drew for Feb. 5

WFAN’s Mike Francesa remains the only person reporting that the Mets made an offer to free-agent SS Stephen Drew.

The New York Post, Daily News, WEEI in Boston and former-GM Jim Bowden all cited knowledgeable sources disputing Francesa’s report.

The New York Post’s Joel Sherman believes the Mets will refrain from signing Drew and instead use that money to sign additional “smaller pieces,” he said on MLB Network early Wednesday.

“They’re fighting over the number of years,” Francesa said (WFAN, Feb. 4). “It’s not the money. … They already offered him the money. It’s a questions of years. … I think they’re going to sign Drew, I think they’re going to sign him. I really do.”

It was reported late Tuesday that the Red Sox made a two-year offer to Drew (Bowden, Feb. 3). However, according to an on-air report from Peter Gammons, Boston is asking Drew to essentially be a utility infielder, playing shortstop, third and second base.

Drew would most likely end up a starting shortstop if signed by the Mets or Twins, who are reportedly only interested in him on a one-year deal.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Mets fans, don’t get bogged down in the lingo. It’s easier that way. I think what the above reports indicate is this: The Mets obviously have interest in — and can afford — Drew. However, they clearly don’t want to go beyond a one-year deal. There are other, better free agents available next winter, and who knows what the future holds for Ruben Tejada, among other internal options…

Drew wants a three- or four-year deal. He’s probably not going to get it. The Red Sox may give him two years to be a utility guy. I’m quite sure he wants to start. The question for him is: Does he sign for one year in Queens, hope to do well, but be forced to negotiate a new deal next winter with more shortstops on the open market? Or, does he take a two-year deal, be a back up in Boston, hope to get lots of playing time, then hit the market with less competition?

The only answer right now: Pray your agent, Scott Boras, can manipulate the media, fans and market enough to get the Mets, Twins or Astros to at least match or outbid Boston. Label it what you want… call it an offer… call it a negotiation… call it one-sided… In any case, so far, it seems this is still very much in progress.




72 comments
amazagain
amazagain

I would stay clear of Drew. Not good against lefties, his power will not hold at Citi, and he wont be in the Red Sox line-up. Unless his value falls so low that we can pay a fair price for a guy that will likely have splits like .240 /10 / 50 then lets go in a different direction  

Gary Sniezak
Gary Sniezak

How is Drew that much better than Tejada if you look the overall stats for both players when they both get about 400 abs the stats are very similar and Id rather keep Ruben in that spot.

eric88
eric88

This is the only team in MLB that if you hit .200 {2 players} or .202 or .210 or .223 or .235, you don't worry for your job and you are projected as the uncontested opening day starter next year with a hugh raise!  Life is good if your a MET.

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

I don't see the point in signing Drew when the market for an SS next season should be fairly deep and more talented than Drew.  This team is heading for another 74-88 season.  I don't see the need to spend the money unless it's for a 1 year deal.  I'm no fan of Ruben Tejada being the everyday SS, but i also don't see the point in given Drew a multiple year contract.  

Tom King
Tom King

Francesa is always wrong, and I hope he's wrong on Drew. We will be a bad team with or without him.

Knicks Memes
Knicks Memes

Matt, the mets haven't had a player they can "obviously afford" since 2008 

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

is signing Drew for 2yrs really such a terrible thing? he is better than any internal option right now and theres no guarantee the Mets land any big free agent short stop next off season? I say sign the sure shot now for 2yrs and not have to worry about short stop for a while? Maybe we can concentrate on fixing 1st base which is just as bad of a mess?

manu george
manu george

Wake me up when he signs with a team...enough with the Drew posts every day!!!

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

I like Drew, I think he is a good ballplayer. But too expensive if you are going to get the almost same bat production than that of Tejeda maybe less. So go on one year thts it. If he signs elsewhere so be it. Lets go with our guy RT he proved he can hit major leagues pitching the year b4, Thus lets be patient with him.

Dan Asnis
Dan Asnis

Usually when next winter comes most "other, better free agents available"are no longer on the market.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Two years would be a compromise. You have to add a year these days (see Colon) to get important pieces. Who knows what will occur a year from now. Also, if they have control of him for another year, he is worth something even if they don't need him next year. So, it is not like they will get nothing for the second year even then. The current line-up doesn't do it for me. They need another bat. Too many question marks to rely on Tejeda. Get Drew.

joeknix
joeknix

Just so everyone knows who is being bandied about as the super deep SS market in 2015 . . . it's Hanley Ramirez, Asdrubal Cabrera, J.J. Hardy, and Jed Lowrie.  I keep hearing people say how deep it is but rarely hear the names so there you go.  I suspect we'll suffer through another year of ultra singles light hitting Tejada and wind up with Jed Lowrie as the bounty . . . who's WAR is not better than Drew's last year, BTW.  Typical Mets two in the bush rather logic.

mettle
mettle

if Drew was a major piece of the puzzle teams would have signed him by now, instead of waiting for him to come down in price.  Next years free agent shortstops will be available at the trade deadline if the Mets are somehow in the wild card 

owlnut
owlnut

Can you believe anything that comes out of Francessa's mouth? I don't think so. He loves to hear himself talk and is pissed off that Michael Kay now has his spot on YES, so he had to say something to make himself relevant.

rben
rben

This year the mets can't sign Drew because of next years free agent class.   Next year the mets can't commit long term to that same free agent class because they don't want to block the position for Cecchini (who stinks).  The excuses write themselves. 

rben
rben

So the mets are down a SS and a leadoff guy  Hmmm I once knew a guy who could fill those roles.  We decided to let him walk for nothing

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

How is matching Boston a plus?  If Boston and the Mets offer the same thing, he'd be nuts not to take Boston's offer.   For him to take the Mets offer, they'd need to blow Boston's out of the water.    It looks like he's going to be faced with taking a one year deal, or a two year deal at significantly less than he had originally hoped for.  It would be helpful to have some idea of what the numbers of dollars/years look like.  


What the Mets can afford is irrelevant.  What's relevant is what they're offering (assuming they've actually tendered a formal offer to this point).  If it's not what Drew's willing to accept, it's a moot point.


Without specifics, each and every one of these Drew posts is little more than an exercise in mental masturbation.



Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Fran-say-so has been otherwise engaged in his feud with Michael Kay--the Battle of the Big-Heads (figuratively and literally). I am so tired of the Drew story. The guy is a solid mediocrity. Hell, bring back Justin Turner and be done with it already.

Shaun Bewick
Shaun Bewick

Hasn't the wait until next year philosophy come back to bite us in the rear-end this off-season as fans?  Just outbid Boston by a little bit for 2 years and get this over with... 

yankeehater
yankeehater

I honestly don't see how signing drew to a 2 year deal would preclude the mets from going after a better SS next year. They can try to trade Drew, they can trade Murphy, or they can have Drew be their primary all-purpose utility infielder (expensive, but only for one year). Looking ahead to next years SS's is a bogus excuse not to give him the extra year.

Enrique
Enrique

I don't think the free agents next year are that much better except for Ramirez or Lowrie.  And I doubt we'll get either.   If we can have him for 2 years, I would do it.  


Mike Aviles (34) - $3.5MM club option with a $250k buyout
Asdrubal Cabrera (29)
Yunel Escobar (32) - $5MM club option
Rafael Furcal (37)
Alex Gonzalez (37)
J.J. Hardy (32)
Derek Jeter (41)
Jed Lowrie (31)
John McDonald (40)
Hiroyuki Nakajima (32) - $5.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Nick Punto (37) - club/vesting option
Hanley Ramirez (31)
Jimmy Rollins (36) - vesting/club/player option

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Joseph DeFazio How is the SS market next year deep?  Hanley is staying in LA, Hardy is supposedly in talks with Baltimore already, Asdrubal is massively overrated and terrible in the field, Lowrie is an injury prone butcher at SS....there's no harm in going 2 for Drew.

eric88
eric88

Yeah, but less bad with him. Plus you know they won't sign a big SS next and these guys may resign with their own teams anyway.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@7up17togo  Average fielding? One of the better defensive SS in the game. 

Career .264 hitter with a career OPS of .764. Only a handful of guys better offensive production out of SS than that, that you could actually get.

And who are they going to get in next years class? Ramirez? Indications are he'll resign with LAD. Hardy? Ever heard of the Yankees? Lowrie? The guy who has played over 100 games ONCE in his career? Who was injured 5 years in a row? The guy who is referred to as "stone hands"? He's a horrible defensive SS.

Do you realize the money issues the Wilpons have? How are they going to pay for one of these guys even IF they could get them? 

And be locked into one fo these guys for 5+ years? 

Let alone the fact that you're giving up a first round pick for them versus a third. 

Be realistic

Ziggy Jones
Ziggy Jones

@Joe Paulson  drew isn't that important to us. although at this point, everything next winter is going to be twice as expensive, and i'm sure the mets won't see that coming like this season


the only reason i'm annoyed about this is b/c people like cerrone keep saying it's a non story and that there isn't an update, yet he keeps posting updates

Anthony Testa
Anthony Testa

Ramirez won't make free agency la will lock him up. Are the remainders extremely better than drew

huskermet
huskermet

@mettle The Mets are not signing anyone until they close on their $250MM refinance deal later this month or in March.  They have a payroll ceiling right now; after the closing they do not.  Boras will certainly not let Drew agree to sign with that closing still pending - it could fall through!  Then what for Drew?  His $$ is exposed and he would have to take less from another team in desperation.  This is a big stall tactic by the Mets to not only get their re-fi done, but also to drive down Drew's price.  I give it a 20% chance of working out for the Mets, because Drew will either be on the Sox by then or another team.

Metsnow
Metsnow

@owlnut Right on!! All this guy cares about is himself and his name dropping. The guy is arrogant and pompous and comes across that way on the radio. He still thinks he is Mr Yankee

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@rben They got some sort of compensatory pick. "Nothing" means they offered him something & the Marlins outbid them. Reyes getting hurt at the start of the year also made things problematic as to trading him at the deadline. They really should have traded him a year early but decided not to. They got another year of the guy, a batting title and fans having something to watch. 


Anyway, it's time to move on at this point.

dv92
dv92

@rben  I understand where you're coming from but move on already!! 

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Macacawitz Is that true though?  If he goes to Boston, and Middlebrooks is productive, Drew may not top 300 plate apps this year and next.  What if he embarrasses himself outside of SS?  He's effectively crushed his market going forward.

rben
rben

Cerrone loves rooting for the underdog NY team.   He wrote all about it the other day. 

John Pappas
John Pappas

Turner signed a minor league deal with the dodgers

Michael Gibbs
Michael Gibbs

@Tarheel11  Excellent post.  I wonder sometimes if people do their homework before commenting.  This guy is head and shoulders above Tejada.  Ask any mgr. or pitcher who they would rather face in any situation.  Next years SS market will not bean option for the Mets. Sign drew for 2 years and if you have to, an option.  

drmetfan
drmetfan

@dv92 @rben  We are never going to move on. Reyes was home grown, an all star, a fan favorite. He is our SS regardless of which team he plays for.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Steven Matregrano Seems right. If the SS pool is better next year, as is the talk, he needs to show he can play his position even more now. Then again, if he manages to play the back-up role well, that could help him too. Shall see.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@BringBackDaveTelghe @Macacawitz  I don't think I've ever seen a guy become this radioactive this quickly.  Initially he was probably looking for a 4 year, $28-$30M deal.  Looks like he won't get half that.  He's effectively crushed now.  Both he and Boras are in serious damage control mode.  Yes he might get more ABs with the Mets, but to what end?  They're not going anywhere anytime soon, and the FA market next year is better.  


He might have to accept the fact that his remaining tenure might be as a bench guy.  Better to take the years at less money if you can get them in a more stable environment.  No clear/easy answer to any of this.

Gland1
Gland1

@drmetfan @owlnut @rben  that's not true.  that's just arguing about semantics if contract was offered in writing or not.  The Marlins blew away anything the Mets were discussing and that was that.

drmetfan
drmetfan

@owlnut @rben  The Mets did not even attend to sign him. No offer was ever made to him so he had to choice but to take the money the Marlins offered. 

owlnut
owlnut

@rben  Reyes wanted money and didn't care who gave it to him. He didn't care about the fans or he wouldn't have ended his Mets career the way he did.