MetsBlog Q&ACast: Lamar Johnson hints that Wright’s shoulder is a problem

David Wright‘s sore shoulder may be affecting his swing, hitting coach Lamar Johnson said in this week’s MetsBlog Q&ACast, presented by Verizon.

Terry Collins said Sunday that Wright’s shoulder should have nothing to do with his current struggles at the plate, since he is no longer receiving treatment.

However, the day before, Johnson told SNY.TV’s Robert Brender: “When your shoulder is hurt, it’s really tough. It’s hurt in his left shoulder and that’s where your swing starts, with your left side, your left hand getting to the ball. Its been tough because he’s been trying to play through that. It’s just been a real tough haul because it’s hard to get a consistent swing when you’re in pain.”



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Wright ended up leaving Sunday’s game with neck spasms. He said he expects to play Tuesday.

Wright said in July that he first injured his shoulder in mid-June sliding headfirst in to second base. It forced him to miss a week in July, after which he received a cortisone shot heading into the All-Star break. He was later hit by a pitch in the shoulder during a recent game.

Wright is hitting .215 with a .269 OBP in 35 games since the All-Star break.




54 comments
Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

Maybe they are right!, In 2011 he dropped production considerably, then bounced back in 2012 to then dropped progressibly since.

Either he is injured since 2012 or he is declining good!

Erik Scheibe
Erik Scheibe

The problem is this stupid mentality that it is somehow admirable to play through an injury that you can't really play through.  This isn't hockey.  Baseball is different.  I said the same thing when it was determined that Wright had a broken bone in his back.  They had a press conference and he said that he didn't want to use that as an excuse for his poor performance.  WHAT?!?  Of course it's an excuse, a damn good excuse.  Go figure the guy couldn't hit an outside curve ball with a broken back!  Injuries happen, you let the next guy step up and try to do the job and let your guy HEAL.  What we have watched Wright do has been embarrassing and demoralizing to the team, which is a bigger ongoing problem for the Mets than player personnel or payroll.

nthmetsfan
nthmetsfan

If you shut him down, it will also provide an opportunity to evaluate some of the younger guys who would be playing in his place.

matmil
matmil

Maybe I'm being too critical but this, to me is just another indication that this organization is far from a well oiled machine. The manager says it's not his shoulder and the hitting coach says it is his shoulder. The player says it's not his shoulder but plays as if he's hurt. The lead off hitter is hitting .220 and is the second leading home run hitter on the team. The 3 hitter has been in a slump for over a month but still he hit's third. While the 2 hitter leads the league in hits. A rookie comes up who was hitting lead off for his team in AAA and batting .330 but he comes here and hit's 6 or 7. They struggle for runs for a month but the manager won't change the lineup. They don't know how to steal a base and the only base stealer they have stays on the bench and they lose a bunch of 1 run games. They continue to make bone headed plays but nobody is held responsible. What am I missing here. This is a circus.

matmil
matmil

Two opposite opinions from the same coaching staff. Smells like dysfunction.

lholztrio
lholztrio

the shoulder is having an impact on his game?   this is a shocker!  couldn't expect Sandy or Terry to have known this.

kingman76
kingman76

If need be shut him down and get him some arthroscopic surgery it that's what it will take to fix this thing.  Otherwise you may be looking at a chronic problem that will keep playing itself out if you go the rest route.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Terry Collins could be the worst manager in the history of baseball. He is totally clueless. Fundamentally this team is absolutely comical. Every year his W-L record gets worse. David Wright has got to learn to keep his eyes open when he swings the bat. With his horrible arm and .215 BA, why is Granderson in right field? Can anybody in the organization teach d'Arnaud how to throw to 2b? His mechanics are as bad as Thurman Munson's used to be.

DerpyMets
DerpyMets

@robertbrender I like this guy. He sounds like a good guy. I like how he said he enjoys focusing on just 14 guys as opposed to whole org.

Peter Loibl
Peter Loibl

Honest (non-sarcastic) question, as I have been traveling a lot for work and I have admittedly been watching less games of late: 


Does Wright really only have two extra base hits since the All-Star break? Someone relayed this stat to me and even for a "down year," this would be epically putrid. 

C Nerrie
C Nerrie

I've always felt that an able-bodied ordinary player is better than an injured All Star - especially when the All Star is killing us!

DW is a good man, but it's hard not to say that once again he has "led" us into a collapse.

He always says that he leads by example. Is it conceivable that he believes "gutting it out" equals "leading by example" even when he's killing us??

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Even if it's not true, people will believe Lamar before they believ Terry! He has lost any credibility that he once might have HAD!!

nhmetsfan
nhmetsfan

Agree with all recent comments. TC  has to make the call and cant defer to his captain. There is no doubt that DW needs a rest whether he is hurt or not. In the past he has played hurt  and been ineffective . He needs much more time off and a demotion in the lineup until he can hit again. 

dukewillie
dukewillie

Lamar Johnson: "David Wright‘s sore shoulder may be affecting his swing, hitting coach Lamar Johnson said in this week’s MetsBlog Q&ACast, presented by Verizon.


Terry Collins:        "Wright’s shoulder should have nothing to do with his current struggles at the plate, since he is no longer receiving treatment."


Can you believe TC? Any justification (real or fabricated, as in this case) to play David, in the hopes of getting  a few more wins to save his job security. Unbelievable


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theglider
theglider

So the question is who should play third? Campbell? Flores? Murphy? Each offers hazards.

Shut Wright down but finding a replacement isn't that easy.

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

I would love to trade him. He is over payed.  I would build my team around D'arnaud, Duda, Dilson Herrera, Lagarese!  You can even pay Murphy, move him to 3rd and save around 8 million on Wright.  You trade Colon and Niese as well and now you have 30 million to go use to sign a real bat like Hanley Ramirez or trade for Kemp!  

Regardless of what happens with Wright, he should no longer bat 3rd.. He should bat 5th or even 6th.  D'arnaud should be our #3 hitter.  

Den Dekker
Murphy
D'arnaud
Duda
Wright
Granderson
Flores
Lagarese  

To end this season!



Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

If Wright's shoulder is an issue (and it certainly appears to be the case), you have to wonder why Collins has been putting him out there every single game. I know that Wright wants to play everyday, but Terry should have been forcing him to sit once every 10 games or so. There was a time when we couldn't afford to be w/o Wright's bat in the lineup, but that time has passed. Personally, I'd shut him down at this point and let him rest up for next year.

Chris Molloy
Chris Molloy

I agree to shut David down, but how about we get a manager that says David you are going to rested every15 or so games from the beginning of the season. I'll pick the game and tell you in advance, case close. Resting David, Granderson and Murphy will help them and the team plus guys like Campbell can stay fresher.

bromancer
bromancer

The shoulder is fine.  The contract is a disaster.

mingo
mingo

Shut him down. Those neck spasms are from compensating for the shoulder.

David doesn't realize it because he is just starting to age, but those things happen all the time when you age.

There is no reason for him to play right now. Let him rest up and be ready next year.

Let Campbell, Flores and Murphy play third.

bruster
bruster

We all know he's getting older and players do go through prolonged slumps. But he went off like a light switch .Collins says his job is to win games but at what cost ? Shut him down and Wright will say he wants to play which is understandable and I admire him for that but let him recover. Supposedly next year is the "BIG ONE" anyway

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Rumored that the Dodgers claimed Colon

11gilkey
11gilkey

I hope he's hurt because he's been brutal. 

Gregory Schreiber
Gregory Schreiber

Shut him down like Harvey already. Collins is killing his career like Johan's.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

Just shut him down for the season and get it over with.

BadContract
BadContract

Is Lamar Johnson now on the hot seat for saying something that makes sense? Watch your back Lamar!

Bob Giacalone
Bob Giacalone

Collins says one thing, Johnson says another. Great team. Great management. Does anyone know anything?

Julie Seaford
Julie Seaford

We have all known this for quite a while. Should have been on the DL a while ago.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Totally agree, Joseph. It pains me to watch him.

Andrew Vazzano
Andrew Vazzano moderator

Slump? Shoulder? Both? Something else?

What do you think is wrong with Wright?

vandelay
vandelay

He was great in 2013 too. Just got hurt and missed about 2 months

shinjoooo
shinjoooo

So, you say Collins is the worst manager in the history of baseball, then go on to say how bad all of his players are..makes sense... in a dilusional MetsBlog kinda way.

matmil
matmil

He has been awful.

kingman76
kingman76

@Peter Loibl Since the All-Star break, Wright is now hitting .200 (29-of-145) with two doubles, eight RBI and no home runs. His last homer came July 11, a span of 143 at-bats now.


vandelay
vandelay

@dukewillie The Mets shutting Wright down for a bit (or the season) might be better for Collins' job security.  Wright is hurting more than he is helping lately.  And if Wright misses some games that at least serves as some kind of excuse for the poor record.

mesmo
mesmo

Thank you. Collins has managed all season like this is a win now or a must win season. It's only to save his own job, so. Screw anyone else's career. Must play has beens and veterans rather than develop youth, because he won't be around once they're ready to produce. He's been trying to vindicate his records with Houston and The Angels when he lost control.

Paul LeBarron
Paul LeBarron

Because terry probably doesnt want to listen to the lil boy whine

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Chris Molloy How about we get a manager who has the stones to move Wright out of the 3 hole. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Supposedly some sports radio talk show host in San Fran said this morning that the Dodgers had claimed Colon. But I can't find anything anywhere to back it up other than some guy in Modesto telling me that. Whatever

dukewillie
dukewillie

Exactly. TC isn't considering the possible effects of over playing David with his bad shoulder. Who knows what further damage (if any) may occur to David's shoulder if he continues to play the string out.

@Eddie_Dean Been saying that for weeks and not waiting for September. Find a spot on the 40 man for Reynolds and call him up. Play him at SS with Flores or Campbell at 3rd and give Tejada some reps at 2nd with the creaky Murph getting time off.


Ya know, it may be a slap in the face but come September i'd sit most of the Vets. Let some more kids play.

OF= MdD/Lagares/Puello and give Kirk some AB's.

IF= Duda(1B)/Muno(2B)/Reynolds(SS)/Flores(3B) and let Campbell float as a super U.

C= TdA and maybe a look at Plawecki.

SP(6 man through Sept.)

1. Wheeler

2. deGrom

3. Thor( i know he won't get the call but he should get a taste if he has a chance next year).

4. Montero

5. Colon

6. Gee/Niese (Make them the Sunday starters or shut Niese down).

BP= Shut down Mejia before something serious goes wrong. Give Torres some rest and call up some extra arms.


Lineup=

Muno/Reynolds/TdA/Duda/MdD/Puello/Flores/Lagares/Pitcher

@Bob Giacalone Yes it's just not the guys who are usually interviewed. COLLINS IS A MORON AND SHOULD BE EXILED TO SENILE ISLAND.

sheaheykid
sheaheykid

@Andrew Vazzano What's wrong with Wright:

1) Shoulder

2) Swing

3) Attitude

4) Immaturity

5) Too much time spent waxing eyebrows

6) Grossly overpaid

mesmo
mesmo

Well... A lot of ego driven macho, iron man BS has him believing this team can't get along without him in the three hole. I'm sure there's a bit of fear involved, too. The fear that this team CAN get by without him... That he is not indispensable.

But, the shoulder IS the slump... It has to be. He is too talented to just lose all ability. I admire his willingness to gut it out, but at this stage, it is detrimental to everyone. We need him on the field... Next year. This one is over.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

@vandelay Yes, thing is that playing hurt is not fair. You affect your team , your fellows teammates and it is like cheating on your fans too.

I dont want him to be demoted (he doesn't deserve that) like batting him sixth or seventh but instead batting him second and Murph third would help both him and the team.