Juan Lagares gets jammed

Juan Lagares will play for Triple-A Las Vegas tonight

Mets OF Juan Lagares is expected to play for Triple-A Las Vegas on Monday, the team announced.

Lagares was put on the disabled list in mid April with a pulled right hamstring.

Terry Collins said Saturday that he is still not sure if Lagares will return from the DL when he is eligible Wednesday.




76 comments
mets63
mets63

EYjr  make the team go.he will be stand on 2b 70 to 80 times counting double and SB,plus 10 to 14 triples.Langares cant steal and no power.They both may hit 5 homeruns.No contest

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Everyone is forgetting opening day when ey was not in the lineup. When lagares comes back he will leadoff playing centerfield grandy in right cy in left, book it.

they cant seat Lagares that would be a crime!

Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

A leadoff hitter needs to get on base AT LEAST 35% of the time. Period. Stealing bases is secondary as long as they're not slow and clogging the bases, and fast enough to score from 1st on a double. EY is simply not an every day player. He's a 4th outfielder, Murphy backup, and pinch runner in the later innings, period. He's a 1 trick pony and simply doesn't get on base enough to compensate. Eventually an outfield of Granderson, CY and Legares will prove to be an overall competent, if not thrilling threesome. Duda and D'Arnaud and Murphy and Wright are adequate. But they must replace Tejada immediately. Eventually their current five starters will combine with one or more of Syndergaard, Montero and DeGrom plus Harvey later on to form a deep, young world series capable starting rotation and provide support for a competent if not inspiring bullpen. But the 2014 goal of playing .500 or better baseball, and positioning themselves for contention in 2015 would be best served by upgrading the offense to the point where these young starters don't all hurt themselves trying to be too perfect. I'm not sure Drew can be that person anymore. I think it's time to trade a legit starter for a legit SS.

Todd David Ferrell
Todd David Ferrell

If EY continues to get on base is a 21 million dollar platoon in right field the answer? Grandy and C Young have power and strike out a ton and are useless in the line up together. Legares must play every day.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Lagares batting lead-off for Las Vegas tonight. den Dekker second. Hmmm.

slainte2
slainte2

EY has bad offensive numbers, is actually kind of a bad offensive player. But on the bases, he is an exceptional threat, a difference maker.

it would be great if we could guarantee he gets on base at least once a game ... even better, it would be great to get him on base late in close games at critical time when we want EY specifically to be on base.

Actually, we can .... they call them "pinch runners".

IMO, EY's value is maxed out as instant excitement off the bench as pinch runner, and as versatile solid defensive sub... He doesn't need to start (and shouldn't) to give value to this club.

blackwood1
blackwood1

I like the fact that the team is competitive that is a major step in the right direction! But by no means are they a finished product, that being said I believe Largares has a great chance at being the future at CF. 

Outside of that a guy I have been reading about that is trapped behind current big league talent & can play both 2nd & SS is Mookie Betts in the Boston farm system. What realistically do you guys think it would take to get him in a trade? He is made to be a lead off man & is super solid on defense, he is someone that is worth picking up mid season to cure the lead off & SS woes in the long term for the Mets.

tigerinblu
tigerinblu

I like watching this kid play ball. 

He ain't gonna be a superstar but most definitely can be a contributor for a playoff-caliber team.

Hope he gets back in CF soon!

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

Juan Lagares is the beloved guy that everyone wants in the field at this time, but saying Lagares is the future,it is really toomuch for him. Even this year that he is hitting better he ( in my radar ) has a shorter ceiling that Den Decker, Who is faster than him, has lots of power and resembles a leadoff hitter which Lagares not. In addition we got Puello with a larger celing, Imo. To me the team plays better with EY leading off. In the other hand is a much better defensive team with Lagares in CF and Cy and Grandy at corners.  While it is also a much scaring line-up when we play Recker behind the plate and bats him seven. To the contrary the team doesn't loose much defensively and imo may looks better defensive wise. The upgrading of the Team got to be at SS and First base really. However we need a guy like Franklyn not owings. Maybe a good package will give us a shot at either one Castro or Baez, and thats because the Cubs needs more than anybody at this time. Castro is flashy has power but very unmatured you have to be careful with him, But Baez even is raw defensively has a good arm and can be teach rather than Castro. But I'll take either one.

Randy Schiff
Randy Schiff

When Juan is healthy he better play. He's part of the future. Or we can play older guys who hit 220 and strike out a ton and will continue to do just that. It's not up to Terry, it's all Sandy.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Eric Campbell named Pacific Coast League Player of the Week.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Ey has a 593 ops, batting 216, 26 strikeouts in 88 abs. I'm sorry but that isn't very good numbers for a leadof batter. Obv he has terrific speed, when he does get on base he's prob going to steal base and has a good shot of scoring. Sure he as a ton of sbs and runs scored, but the more he plays less effective he is. He's better off as bench player. I actually like Ey and is a good player to have. Love his speed, love that he can play all outfield positions and second base. He can spell anyone of outfielder at anytime. But he should not be an everyday player at the expense of Lagares no way no how. Lagares has the chance to be our everyday centerfield for years to come. Ey would be so much more effective as a pinch runner and pinch hitter and maybe give him a couple starts a week.

Kyle Tompkins
Kyle Tompkins

Lagares

Granderson

Wright

Duda

Murphy

C. Young

d'Arnaud

Tejada

7up17_2go
7up17_2go

"Terry Collin's said that he isn't sure".

Translation:

If you want to know an answer ask Sandy, Tery is like the kid on the airplane ride at a carnival, the airplane has a steering wheel, but it doesn't control anything.....

hankypanky
hankypanky

Nice discussion going on. This is what the blog should be all about.

dannym28
dannym28

He will likely rejoin them in colorado 

mets2014
mets2014

it will be good to have lagares back...the mets will have to take a page out of the dodger play book in terms of getting all 4 of their OFs in the lineup

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

It's good to keep him in LV until he's a100% and raking. His bat is missed in this lineup but there's no sense hurrying. The Mets pitching line keeps improving, that's keeping them alive, along with the few, but timely, hits they're getting. But this can't hold up over a season. Even the '73 Mets, with their anemic offense and stellar pitching only squeaked out 82 wins - and that team was not as anemic as this one, by far.


.320 OBP from the leadoff spot will not hold up and EYJ is not getting better - he is what he is.


Lagares is special, if the Mets can't fit him into this lineup, on a daily basis, send him somewhere else - they'll get offers for a CF of this caliber. Unlike EYJ, he continues to improve and his glove is, unquestionably, the best they can field. CY is good, very good - but we have to stop compromising and play our best players, every day, even if that means the "very good" take a seat or shift to another part of the OF.

bigdirty
bigdirty

As long as Young gets on base and does his thing, he has to start. This team lacks offense and seem to only get runs when Young is involved. 


Lagaraes is a high quality defender but his great defense isnt that much greater than Chris young. The way EY helps the lineup ismore valueable than that difference. 


I like Lagares but this team needs a way to score easy runs and thats with EY at the top of the order. 

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Given its past history the crack(ed) Met Medical staff should have this guy ready to play sometime around July 4.


Elaine Varian
Elaine Varian

I think EY will be a bench guy. I agree he has great speed on the bases and his defense is decent, but he relies on drag bunting and walks. They will adjust and throw strike. When they do that he will be a 240. hitter and no longer on base like he is. He is going to get plenty of playing time at 2nd and in the outfield as days off, late innings replacement. plus pinch running. Really that's all he can offer. Lagares has to play everyday. He has shown he is learning to hit and adjust this yr. I see him as getting some opps at lead off. He could be good there. maybe not EY speed, but all around package. he had 15 stolen bases on average a yr. in Minors. 

Chad Michael
Chad Michael

It will be tough when Lagaras comes back.  EY is not the best lead off hitter but he has been a beast on the base paths and has shown his value with his speed.  Chris Young has shown some power and even Granderson is turning things around.  It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

supermet
supermet

Please, please, please replace Josh Satin with Eric Campbell - both righty first basemen. Campbell "Soup" is hitting .351 with a .978 OPS in AAA and hit .304 with an .873 OPS in spring training. Satin, conversely, is hitting .125 with a .513 OPS for the Mets this year. The offense is still atrocious despite the record and the pitching being decent. The Mets had 1 hit after the 3rd inning last night (7 innings with just 1 hit!). If the Mets aren't going to spend money to bring in guys who hit above .200, then they have to be quick on the trigger to bring guys through the organization who can hit. Satin isn't getting it done and Lagares who has the highest average on the team at .314 isn't ready to play. Something needs to get done to jump-start this offense!

Robert Nolan
Robert Nolan

So bench the guy with the .320 OBP for the 2 guys with a .247 and .24737 OBP? Playing time is earned by performance. EY has performed very well as of late. CY or Grandy should sit based on performance. If EY slumps, rotate someone in. To think he goes bc he's not this ideal leadoff hitter is insane. He's getting on base, stealing bases, and scoring some runs. This offense needs the spark he brings more than the K's and FO-9's from Grandy. Play EY

zoddie
zoddie

@slainte2 Pinch runners are mostly a thing of the past with huge bullpens.  You'll occasionally see one, but not too often.

Toy Jun Kie
Toy Jun Kie

@Antonino Plaud  Can't speak for Den Dekker since it was his injury that put Lagares on the radar last year but Lagares is just so good defensively that he makes the Mets a better team .

hankypanky
hankypanky

I should have added that he's 27, so that makes him trade-bait in a package.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Looks okay except Dude fourth might be asking too much. Better find out now than later in the season, I guess. Also things might change if and when Granderson finally hits.

lindro88
lindro88

Who decided to pinch hit Kirk and Q Saturday night? Was that via text from Sandy? How about pitching changes. Should we start second guessing Sandy when Torres comes in with a 4 run lead?

fakefans
fakefans

Thanks for contributing. We are all so much more enlightened now that you have provided your thoughts.

hankypanky
hankypanky

So according to your diagnosis, TC is more concerned about what the GM thinks than being concerned about Lagares coming back too soon and possibly finding himself overmatched after being away from major league pitching. Might it be wise for TC to wait and see how Lagares does in Vegas or do you have a timetable?

mets2014
mets2014

@Victor Triguero the bottom line is e young has done everything he was asked to do which is get on base, create havoc, steal bases and score runs while playing a decent LF...c young is starting to show that he needs to be in the middle of that power starved lineup...the only way granderson is going to find himself is by playing everyday...heck even Abreu needs a spot start if he is going to be the offensive threat off the bench...lagares has clearly shown he is a defensive whiz and his small sample of offense looked very promising until he got hurt...it is going to be interesting to say the least in terms of how TC manages the playing time of all 5 players

72tilltc
72tilltc

@mets2014  Yes Puig Ethier Kemp and Crawford are what Terry is faced with juggling. 

upstater
upstater

@rstpigeon If we had any "very good" players they'd surely be playing every day,

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

Lowest in slugging, second lowest OPS...the McCarron article nails it. Without exceptional pitching we are hurting offensively ay too many spot. We will see a lot of nail biters with our offensive challenges. I also wonder about Zack Lutz as a possible 1-3rd back up. I know Duda gets on, but he is RBI challenged.

All that said, they are grinders and each game has you sweating.

fuldsadick
fuldsadick

@supermet Agree 100%...i would also take Lutz over Satin..more power and a better fielder...Campbell is certainly more versatile than both

charlie duck sauce
charlie duck sauce

@supermet

I'm afraid management doesn't want another controversy brewing at 1st base probably this time between Soup and Duda because I honestly feel Soup would do great as an everday 1st baseman and that could trigger as many would put it another "mental collapse" from Duda. Didn't management have high regards for Soup after the numbers he put up this spring? And now he's killing AAA? Make your case.

Antonino Plaud
Antonino Plaud

@Toy Jun Kie @Antonino Plaud  In fact to tell u the truth Mets needs a CF for two years. Because for what i Heard this guy Nimmo will take that position because he is a pure hitter that cannot fails. He will be Mets CF in 2016.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

Nothing against Soup, but I don't see him as trade bait. 27 year old minor leaguers generally aren't all that attractive to other teams and wouldn't fetch all that much. With that said, I wouldn't mind him taking over Satin's role.

7up17_2go
7up17_2go

@lindro88  I have seen your posts here for a while. You just like to argue about everything.  When the Mets are going bad, your negative. Now that the Mets are going well your Mr. Management.


So now you love Collin's????..I'll keep that in mind!  

7up17_2go
7up17_2go

@fakefans  Nice to see you back on the blog now that the Mets have a winning record!

Randy Schiff
Randy Schiff

@hankypanky  tc has no power over who come back from AAA.....might voice his opinion, but it ain't his call

7up17_2go
7up17_2go

@hankypanky  Not even sure of what your saying.  I'll write it slower this time so maybe you understand clearer.  Terry Collins thoughts do not matter.  Sandy Alderson runs this team.  Laguares will come back to the Mets when Alderson says so.  Terry is a puppet.

lindro88
lindro88

I think he meant finding time for 4 outfielders. I don't think he was comparing the two groups. The Dodgers are also spending about 100 times what we are on that outfield.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Tap Zoo Ck @supermet  Campbell is not on the 40 man roster right now. And I'm not sure, does Satin have options left? 

zoddie
zoddie

@Jerry Colfer Duda is batting .357/.526/.643 with RISP this year.  He's also been our best hitter this year (aside from 2 weeks of Lagares).

supermet
supermet

@Muhammad A. Gretzky I am aware of the organization's lack of ability to make sound baseball decisions, but I still have to lobby for what is right for the team's best interest, not just one player's (Duda). First, I don't think Duda is as fragile as the Mets or anyone makes him out to be. Second, he is not a superstar so he does not command the same deference as say Ike got after his great initial performance. Third, Duda is really a placeholder anyway until the next superstar is ready who the Mets predict is going to be Dominic Smith (hitting just .189 in A Savannah). I have no idea why Soup was tossed aside like yesterday's lunch after spring training's great performance, but that just speaks to how irrational this organization's front office actually is! He definitely earned a bench spot on this team but they chose Satin instead -- go figure. Irregardless of that poor decision, they have another chance to make amends and I hope enough people can rally behind this to make the front office come to their senses.

zoddie
zoddie

@Antonino Plaud @Toy Jun Kie Well, any prospect can fail but Nimmo is currently batting .407/.530/.549.  Absolutely insane.  But it's still April and the kid is still in A+ ball.

lindro88
lindro88

I would say most GM's decide when a player is ready to return to the team. It's probably a decision made after Sandy gets input from Wally. Terry was asked, so he answered. The manager takes the roster he's given by the GM.

hankypanky
hankypanky

I don't think the FO reads our opinions. Otherwise, I think you make an interesting point.