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Josh Satin continues to work as an outfielder this winter

Josh Satin is continuing his work as an outfielder at his home this winter, according to Tim Rohan of the New York Times.

Satin says he has consulted with former Met Marlon Byrd about improving as an outfielder after struggling to catch balls over his head during drills.

Satin wants to show he can play the outfield in an effort to become a more versatile utility player for the Mets in 2014.

Maggie Wiggin, Contributor

Sep. 8: I really like Satin as a player and I appreciate his dedication to the team and his willingness to do anything to contribute. It’s a great attitude and I think it’s a big part of why he’s playing himself into a bench role for next year. That said, enough is enough with the infielders playing the outfield. It didn’t work for Daniel Murphy, it didn’t work for Lucas Duda, and while I suspect Satin is a bit more athletic than either of them, I don’t see this experiment ending with anything other than frustration and embarrassment for all involved.

Read more: A Met Who Can Reach Base Is Trying to Stretch (New York Times)




91 comments
Robert C. Smith
Robert C. Smith

You can bet with a lot of hard work, dedication, and perseverance, Josh Satin can be the next Jim Beauchamp.


Can we get real about these four-A guys? Please?

Rob Martin
Rob Martin

Who's gonna take Ike's position, Duda?

thebs19
thebs19

@AVSNY its just the latest version of an annual story. Justin Turner and Zach Lutz of years past.

mike23
mike23

Josh Satin has been over rated by the mets, they guy is a career minor leaguer who had a decent half of baseball w/ mets and than came back down to earth. I don't see him being much more than that and wouldn't be surprised if he does gat at bats that he struggles due to teams understanding his weaknesses better this time around. Props that he wants to work in the outfield but at this point he really has no choice but to try and become an adequate outfielder because if not for being versatile he may be out of the league pretty quick due to an overall lack of talent. 

11gilkey
11gilkey

Satin could be a nice bench player. More athletic than Murphy? I think not. Not sure how Maggie could draw that conclusion.

Andrew Laven
Andrew Laven

as i read on this very blog, this is a trend around mlb right now with teams trying to put their 8 best offensive players on the field due to offense being such a premium. point being, its not just the mets trying these things out.

Sun
Sun

"I don’t see this experiment ending with anything other than frustration and embarrassment for all involved."

Can't this pretty much be said about just about all of the Mets "experiments" of recent vintage?

nym4lyfe
nym4lyfe

Just stop. No Duda or Satin in the OF.

eric88
eric88

He is slow as s#%t and has Zero power.

Eamonn Scollan
Eamonn Scollan

Maybe it works out for him maybe it doesn't. The guy is trying to make himself more versatile. What's wrong with that?

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Ok, until any real Mets news happens I'm gone. I can't discuss the merits of a 29 year old who has had a good half of a season as a major leaguer.

Rob Davis
Rob Davis

Experiments never work out for the Mets. They have tried others in the OF and it becomes a joke.  Meanwhile other teams have players change positions and it becomes a hit. All its about POOR LEADERSHIP AND COACHING THIS ORGANIZATION HAS

Jerry Mitchell
Jerry Mitchell

Satin seems like a nice guy and has a good work ethic....but at his point in his career learning to play OF sounds like a bad idea. The only issue I have with Satin is he and Flores are similar players so I would keep Flores as he has a higher upside.

bobbyg67
bobbyg67

they have enough outfielders leave satin on first


cause duda and davis stink. It can not get any worse 

then that.

ctjoe
ctjoe

Josh Satin is perhaps the least athletic plyer on the 40 man roster. And that is saying something. I know this crazy but he might be slower than Wilmer Flores!

jamets
jamets

Plenty of minor league infielders learn to play the OF enough to make themselves useful bench peices.  Just because you can think of a few who tried and failed, doesn't mean you stop trying. 

And unlike Murphy and Duda, there is no thought of making Satin an everyday player in the OF.  For Satin, the ability to play the OF could be the difference between making the team and getting released.

Which One's Pink
Which One's Pink

Reminds me of all the embarassng hype from a year ago about Cowgill, who belonged in the major leagues about as much as I do.

Grasping at straws would be dignifying what we Mets fans are left to these days.

chasesimms
chasesimms

New comment format is horrible.  Who made this decision for sny?

chasesimms
chasesimms

Well done Maggie!   Its time for Baron to go and for you to get his job. 

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Can Dana Carvey dress up and say his last name at least once?

hankincolo
hankincolo

Spring training is a good time to experiment. Give the guy a chance. What's also historically true is guys who start out in the infield can succeed in the outfield. Yount and Biggio would be two examples where it worked. Duda and Randy Hundley would be two examples where it did not.  

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

NHL Network showing video of Rangers with baseball gloves playing catch outside the rink at Yankee Stadium.  Nice.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Matt Harvey's on my teevee right now (NHL Network), wearing a Ranger toque and professing his undying love for the Broadway Blues.  Says he wants to play (baseball) this season.  Excellent interview, he was wearing clothes and didn't mention Qualcomm once.  Said he was thrilled to be at Yankee Stadium. Oops. 

hashburry
hashburry

If you can't judge a fly ball by little league, you are not going to be able to play outfield in the majors.  The Mets have enough players that can barely play one position, they really don't need guys who are marginal major league talents who are lousy at multiple defensive positions.  I applaud his desperation, though.

personman
personman

Worth a look in the outfield.  If it turns out he's as bad as Murphy or Duda there, abandon the plan.  But until then, there's not much to lose.


Plus, freeing up 1B a little more for Flores is good.

rico
rico

I started reading and thought it was an endorsement for Satin and how he's setting an example for other players. 


Then the predictable "THAT SAID,"


Telll us Maggie why can't infielders hone their skills as outfielders? Eric Young was an infielder, wasn't Juan Lugares and infielder?  IF you do some homework I think you'll find 100's or 1000's of examples of infielders who became outfielders, outfielders who became pitchers, etc. Just because Duda was not particularly good at it and Murphy scraped the experiment doesn't mean it's impossible for an infielder to excel at another position. Your deduction here is shockingly shallow.

metstastic
metstastic

The update here is that Satin is still working out in the outfield. Rather than create hundreds of new posts on every update, Matt has appended it to an old post of the same topic.

boisclair
boisclair

@mike23 Agree completely.  He's doing it to offer value.  However, if Ike and or Duda get off to slow starts, we will be seeing a lot of him and Wilmer at 1B.

Joseph Lewis
Joseph Lewis

Agree, but I think fans rate him higher than the Mets do. He may be a nice righty off the bench, a contact oriented hitter to compliment Andrew Brown's power, to hit in the pinch. I would've rather kept Justin Turner, who I believe to be a better hitter with more defensive versatility. But, obviously, the team has other plans.

tom25
tom25

@11gilkey   It has little to do with Satin a is nd everything to do with the fact that Murphy is as unathletic as it gets.  He's good a job maximizing his skills, but he is one of the worst athletehs I"ve seen in the major leagues this past thirty years.

Craig Ramirez
Craig Ramirez

@11gilkey Agreed, Murph's problem has always been one of finesse, in my opinion.  Anything hit hard which requires reaction/athleticism he seems to respond well to.  In fact, he's made some pretty nifty plays over the last few years in those situations.

mike23
mike23

@Andrew Laven yeah but those players are probably better offensive players and overall players than what Satin brings to the table. 

rico
rico

@eric88 whereas Davis and Duda have plenty of power but they cannot get the bat to touch the ball enough to warrant being in the major leagues.



sickntired
sickntired

That's how bad the rest of our roster is right now... Guy would still be in minors on most other teams. Good kid but not the answer we were promised. Sell the team!!!!!!!

Joseph Lewis
Joseph Lewis

It also may have to do with players from other teams actually possessing more talent than our AAAA players/retreads. Satin may actually be able to put it together as an outfielder, find a nice niche where he can fill in- get a few starts- be a righty off the bench. I personally liked Lutz better, but we shall see what happens.

rico
rico

@ctjoe He may be slower than Wilmer who I think projects as a DH, but Satin has pretty good hands in the field. 

xgamblorx
xgamblorx

@ctjoe I can't wait for the spring training sprints featuring Flores, Duda, and Colon.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@ctjoe His world class brows make up for any physical deficiencies.  

rico
rico

@Which One's Pink you can always find a loser to compare a prospect to, but there are plenty of winners and surprise gems too.  I guess it comes down to if you want to be a cynic on EVERYTHING or are can you view things with a morsel of hope?

boisclair
boisclair

@rico One of my favorite Mets, Clint hurdle, learned to be a catcher after the age of thirty, and it prolonged his career.   I couldn't agree more with you, and that said, I couldn't agree less with Maggie Wiggin

hashburry
hashburry

@rico Those people who change positions and are actually successful are generally athletes, unlike Satin.

ctjoe
ctjoe

@Macacawitz @ctjoe You are right. Perhaps their density and length is what keeps him from running faster.  I actually like Satin but not only is he S-L-O-W but many times last year he showed a little lack of hustle.  He can hit some though.

Which One's Pink
Which One's Pink

@rico@Which One's PinkI've been a Met fan since 1967, which I am am guessing is before you were even born.  I don't need to comfort myself with a lot of silliness about guys like Satin meaning a hill of beans difference on a team level.  Been there, done that.  1000 times before my friend.

hashburry
hashburry

@zoddie @hashburry He stated he can't go back on the ball.  It is an easy deduction that if he can't do it now, he couldn't do it in LL.

rico
rico

@boisclair @rico I agree with you but thought Hurdle came up as a catcher and was moved around because of injuries and years of under-performance?

zoddie
zoddie

@hashburry@rico  In his professional career, Satin has played 2b more than any other position.  He is not some lumbering, immobile guy.  Is he as fast as EYjr? No, but that doesn't mean he can't be passable.  Worth a shot.

boisclair
boisclair

@rico @boisclair No, he was a sports illustrated can't miss coverboy as an outfielder for the Royals in the