MLB: New York Mets at Miami Marlins

Jon Niese was never going to throw beyond 7th inning

Mets LHP Jon Niese tossed seven shutout innings against the Marlins on Monday, lowering his ERA to 1.82 ERA, which is fifth-best in the National League.

“I give Niese a lot of credit,” Marlins manager Mike Redmond said after the game (ESPN, May 6). “He looked good out there, and we had a tough time early on trying to figure him out. He pretty much shut us down.”

Terry Collins said had no intention of leaving Niese in the game, since the pitcher had thrown 108 pitches and missed time in Spring Training due to elbow and shoulder pain.

“You don’t want to overdo it,” Collins said. “He worked hard to get out of that inning. That was what I had to do.”




21 comments
C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

this is a nice piece on Niese, and it's good to see him go on a nice run. I'll be the first to admit I've started to grow a lil weary of Niese's delicate-ness, but he deserved better.  But this story kinda buries the lead, no?  Lagares doing what he's doing, Grandy heating up, and the starters being good more times than not isn't going to matter worth a damn if Sandy doesn't get this team some LEGITIMATE BP help. 1 arm removed from the pen and they can't hold a 3 run lead in the 8th?

hankypanky
hankypanky

Not only was that a good move by TC, it was the ONLY move. Niese has a long history of being fragile and injuriing himself on the mound. The irony is that these are the same brain-dead bloggers who questioned Niese's manhood and called him a wuss the last time he asked to be let out of the game.

Chad Michael
Chad Michael

I have no problem with Terry taking Niese out of the game and if anyone thinks otherwise they are crazy.  Niese did have the issues with the shoulder and elbow so to push him to far so early in the season is unnecessary.  Not only that but it looked like the Marlins were starting to get to him in the 7th.  Finally, the bullpen outside of the Nats series has been fairly successful this season.  There was no reason to think they should not have been able to get 6 outs.  


I don't agree with a lot of Terry's moves but this one honestly was not a big deal in my opinion.   

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Terry does what he's told, just like Manuel and Randolph they  didn't get dumb overnight, of course none of them is a Bobby Cox or Billy Martin etc,etc!!!!!

Patrick Drexler
Patrick Drexler

Terry is managing scared..time to get rid of him...He leaves the starters in when they are getting bombed because its early....then he removes a guy pitching a shutout.   and then the guy who comes in walks the first two hitters and he leaves him in? Dice K himself said that even in the bullpen he didnt feel right, didnt have control...what is the purpose of the bullpen coach if he cant tell the manager.."he doesnt have it tonight"

drmetfan
drmetfan

It was time to take him out. TC made the right call there. Niese did a hell of a job last night. This game was in the bag until the bullpen came in.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

Mostly, the starters are going long enough. Problem is when relief comes in, the umps have to re-figure out the strike zone so it gets all subjective at a tough point, meanwhile if pen guys aren't getting squeezed, theyre digging a hole by nibbling in a way that isn't even remotely fooling batters.


Considering Omar's blunder, that was one of those games where THEY FOUND A WAY TO LOSE. 

Ramon Pena
Ramon Pena

that's good offense we have two of our hotter hitter sitting in the bench don't understand why

nolrog
nolrog

That's funny.  Terry Collins saying he doesn't want to over do it. 

Jim Yager
Jim Yager

Let's face it, this team is not showing us it's true colors, yet. They will show us flashes of awesome, but, the onlt flash that will be there is the flash in the pan. I would be thrilled if we could finish with a winning record, after seasons of sub 500.

rustysribs
rustysribs

Niese looked great. It's unfortunate that he has nothing to show for it because the bullpen and managerial decision making can't get the job done. Dice K should have never pithed to Salty. Not to say that Rice would have gotten the job done either, but a lefty needed to be in there for that batter.

Patrick Drexler
Patrick Drexler

@cmetsfan  Dont pin this loss on Omar...two walks to lead off the inning? and that ball was nailed..yeah he sould have fielded it , but it only goes to show how hard we were being hit..that was a rocket.. We lost that game when we had 2 leadoff walks and Terry STILL leaves in dice K when it was obvious to everyone (except Terry) that he didnt have it .

Bob G
Bob G

@Victor Triguero  I don't care who the pitcher is or who's arm is falling off. You come into the game and walk your first batter, you're out. 

heynow20
heynow20

Erros are part of the game but they can also play a major role in determining the outcome of the game.  You can't ignore errors...there is a reason fielding your position is part of your WAR calc.  Do you know what else is part of the game?  Walks and hits. 

Patrick Drexler
Patrick Drexler

@Bob G @Victor Triguero  EXACTLY!..A reliever has a much shorter leash than a starter..that point in the game, you have guys warming up as the inning begins...and Dice K shows no control? Yank him after one batter.

ken1010
ken1010

@Bob G @Victor Triguero  You might give them a second batter, depending on how they are throwing.  But there was no reason to leave Dice-K in after the third or fourth batters, as Collins did.

stage52
stage52

@heynow20 Ah,   I have found a Genius in  stating the obvious but he can not spell errors.