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Jon Niese struggled Tuesday, says he’s 100 percent healthy

Jon Niese made his first official start of the spring Tuesday, throwing two innings, while giving up six hits and four runs. He traveled to New York at the start of camp to have an MRI of his shoulder.

Niese said his shoulder felt good after Tuesday’s game, despite hitting only 79 mph with his fastball during the first inning. He ended his outing throwing in the upper 80s.

“I kind of started off slow and was able to gradually build up,” he said after the game (ESPN NY, Mar. 11). “The more times I get off a mound, the better it will be. … I’m not 100 percent as far as where I want to be pitching-wise, but I think they’re getting more crisp.”

Last season, Niese didn’t pitch from June 21 to Aug. 11 due to a partial tear in his rotator cuff. He returned to go 5-2 with a 3.00 ERA to end the season.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

He says he’s “100 percent.” I’m sure that’s how he feels, but I’m still not sold on his shoulder being a non-issue. He missed time last year. He adjusted his throwing program and workout this past winter, when he focused on building up specific muscles in his shoulder and back. He had an MRI a few weeks ago and says he experienced ‘dead arm,’ which is typical of pitchers this time of year. However, it’s concerning for Niese when in context of the overall shoulder issue, especially since he also complained of pain in his tricep this spring.

The rotator cuff essentially stabilizes the arm. It’s the key to how a pitcher gets consistent rotation on his ball, pitching guru Rick Peterson once told me. The team said MRI results indicate the tear is healing, which must mean it’s small, slight rip. It can heal on its own without surgery, even if pitching, assuming they make adjustments in delivery to relieve stress on his body. But, the need for an MRI, complaints of ‘dead arm,’ the tricep, and yesterday’s sporadic velocity will probably keep me skeptical of his health until I see otherwise…




16 comments
ctjoe
ctjoe

# 4 starter AT BEST.  They should try to get one of the AZ shortstops for him.  Of course it will take more cuz the Dbacks know he isnt great

Mets Watch
Mets Watch

Just want to point out that despite the headline of this post, Niese never said he's "100 percent." In fact, he said he's "not 100 percent" in the quote you cite. Nowhere in the ESPN New York article you use as a source does he say he's "100 percent." So you might want to correct that.

surfers08
surfers08

the braves have an injury, they immediately sign a good pitcher to replace him.....how will jeff and sandy respond when asked??????...uhmmmm, what, who.. neise, what? ....uhmmmm, we are gonna win 90 games....uhmmm, wait....Hey is that ELVIS????  RUN JEFF!!!  lol......Jeez, i am so sick of this team!!!!!!!!!!

Richard J Brienza
Richard J Brienza

No expectations for him anymore,he is what he is..not an ace a 4th or 5th guy at best

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

Mets pitching god awfull so far - week ago on here I said mets need a 5th starter I was laughed at - looks like mets need 2 pitchers way things are going

mrseaver2u
mrseaver2u

<<The team said MRI results indicate the tear is healing, which must mean it’s small, slight rip. >>


This is complete nonsense. Rotator cuff tears--I have one--do not heal. Cerrone should do a modicum of research before posting ignorant supposition about something as important as the shoulder health of a young starting pitcher. The rotator cuff is a complex mechanism, but basically, if you have a tendon tear, such as of the supraspinatus, doctors will determine if it's a partial-thickness tear or a full tear. If the partial-thickness tear is small enough -- say, 10 or 20 percent, or less -- then surgeons will prescribe physical therapy rather than operating. This seems to be Niese's situation. 


The tendon will not heal, as Matt ignorantly suggests. But it's possible it can be managed, and pitched through, if the surrounding muscles are kept strong. The fear, though, is that the tendon will tear further, due to the extreme stresses -- and, at least as importantly, the REPETITIVE MOTION -- of pitching. If it tears enough, he will need arthroscopic surgery, which essentially knits together the two halves of the torn tendon.


If the team said the tear is healing, they are full of it. But I doubt they said that. What I read was that they said the shoulder looks better than last year. Matt then went ahead and made a spurious and boneheaded conclusion from that. 


Are there any doctors on here who can give a fuller explanation?

Sam Mack
Sam Mack

Niese gotta give the Mets 200 + innings in 2014,If he doesn't go over 200 this year get rid of him!!! 

owlnut
owlnut

Niese missed two weeks of spring training. Give him a chance !to get back into form.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

It's a bit troublesome, but if he wasn't 100% he wouldn't be pitching.

This is why Spring Training means nothing, results wise.  Niese is going to take a few more weeks to round into form.

hankincolo
hankincolo

Let's just hope he's not John Maine, the sequel. 

hashburry
hashburry

Fragile pitchers don't miraculously become workhorses.  They get worse.  Niese is a stop gap until the young guys are ready.  There isn't much difference between the way the Mets presently are building their major league team and fill out there minor league rosters.  One ore two decent players and a bunch of filler so they don't forfeit.

Let's see, Braves struggle in their rotation, no problem, sign Santana.  Mets, let's wait and wait and wait and hope and pray and get a bunch of rabbits feet for luck and hope the bullpen somehow gets outs and the infield doesn't implode, hit .200 and make a bad play every game.

27Up27Down
27Up27Down

Definitely wasn't worth Justin Upton or Wil Myers or anything like that (sarcasm)

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

We should've traded him while he was valuable.  I've been saying it for over a year.  Hope he gets healthy than trade him.  He's ok but not great.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

 Not sure that's fair because the D'Backs weren't interested a year ago and all the guys that are getting close were that much farther removed.


That being said, I was always on board with trading him if the right deal came along.  He never makes it a full season and there's always a "reason" why he struggled in some capacity that year.  Focus issue after errors, pulled hamstring, etc, etc.