Is it age or a sore shoulder that is plaguing David Wright?

David Wright was asked by a reporter Monday if age or his sore shoulder are the root of his struggles at the plate this season.

“I think that you don’t get the results that you want, all of a sudden you start messing with some things,” Wright said. “It becomes that grind and that search that you always hear people talk about.”


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Wright was hitless in four at bats Monday, two days after being hit with a fastball in an already-sore shoulder, which he refuses to blame for his struggles this season.

“The shoulder is not an excuse,” Wright said. “When I go tell the manager that I’m good to play, I expect to produce. I’m not thinking about the shoulder. … There’s no sense in whining and moaning about it now. I’ve got however many weeks to get it going a little bit and hopefully finish strong and let that carry over into the offseason.”

Wright said in July that he first injured his shoulder in mid-June sliding headfirst in to second base. It forced him to miss a week in July, after which he received a cortisone shot heading into the All-Star break.

He was then hit in the shoulder with a fastball from Cubs RHP Dan Straily on Saturday.

“I wanted to come to the ballpark (Monday) with the mindset of trying to give it a shot,” he said after the game. “Everything worked out pretty well. I got the treatment, tested it and felt good.”


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Terry Collins said Wright simply has a bruise and is not dealing with any structural damage to his shoulder.

Wright had an extra base hit in just 6 percent of his plate appearances prior to first injuring his shoulder. He has one in 7 percent of his plate appearances since.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

This has got to be the most difficult season of his offensive career, no doubt. He’s been a mess since Opening Day, with only a handful of short-lived hot streaks to lean on. In talking to him and people around the team, if I had to guess, I’d say he’s doing extra work in the gym and cage to try and overcome this shoulder situation, which, though there may be no structural damage, has clearly impacted his mechanics, gotten in his head and has created bad habits and second-guessing at the plate. I mean, even his quotes are a philosophical mess. I’m sure it doesn’t help that the team is heading for a sixth-straight sub .500 season.

Wright is coming off two of his most productive all-around seasons, so to suggest he’s all of a sudden an old man, incapable of playing baseball overnight is kind of foolish. It is, however, fair to ask if this is the start of a decline. I mean, I love David, but it happens to every one. It has to. It’s human nature. At 31 years old, he should be able to shake this off and return to being the player he was as recently as a year ago. However, it should also be a wake-up call to the Mets that maybe David is approaching a a turning point in his career, if he hasn’t already passed it, and he may not be able to shoulder as much of this team’s load as he used to… no pun intended.




113 comments
Rob Pirozzi
Rob Pirozzi

Way to proofread your headline. Embarrassing.

Rich Kluender
Rich Kluender

No of course he can't but he is slowing aging before our eyes. His skills are diminishing. He is not done but he ain't guy anymore.

Blanca Recinos
Blanca Recinos

What shoulder? Wright has been in a steady

decline since he hit 29 HRS at the old Citi dimensions, the year before mandatory testing was instituted. Since then he has broken down every year. The AS break, give.me a break, he couldn't drive the ball even before that. I am afraid his sharp decline will continue and we are stuck with that albatross contract.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

If we do go and get a SS...then maybe Wright should have been traded.. if hes now a''15 hr 75 rbi guy.....we can get those stats from Flores at 3b if he plays everyday.

Scott MacKenzie
Scott MacKenzie

should have traded him two years ago, we were never going to contend over the last two years anyway.   The Cubs were smart enough to really suck, and then got 3B Kris Bryant with the #2 pick of the draft,  dude had hit like 50 HR this year.   Now we get to pay David 20 Million for the next six years

slainte2
slainte2

DW got killed for 2009, first year of Citifield, b/c his power disappeared in the big park ... 5 homers and 30-something RBI thru June.  BUT the guy was actually OPS-ing his *ss off, using entire field, hitting like .350 for first half of season.  I would take that guy back in a second.  Citifield and Howard Johnson got in his head, and he turned into a pull-happy, undercut guy trying to add 10% effort to every swing to make up for the power numbers that Citi was taking from him.  

Go back to that guy David, use the field, stop trying to pull everything.  Bat 2nd, spark the team, lead the team.  Power days are over.

vandelay
vandelay

To answer the question in the headline - does it have to be completely either or?  And not just directed at this particular piece (Matt went into more detail later than just the question in the headline).  But I find it kinda silly people are saying they hope he's seriously hurt otherwise it means he's doomed for the rest of his career.


Sometimes players just have bad years.  Look at Beltran's 2005 (very similar to Wright this year numbers wise..or Cano's 2008 - to use some examples of NY stars).  Are they writing the same articles about Choo in Texas or Longoria in Tampa right now (maybe they are...I don't know one way or another - but I'm not ready to proclaim any of those guys done).


For sure sometimes it does signal the end, but I think it's way too early to write Wright off -especially after he just came off of 2 great seasons.  I think most likely he started out the year in slump - maybe  a bit mentally affected by the beaning last year - and then as he said was pressing/thinking too much.  Then the shoulder issue probably exacerbated things. .  Of course if it is a mental thing -he's got to work his way out of that too, get confidence back or whatever, but I don't think he just lost all his skills in one offseason


kcas44
kcas44

most over rated over paid player in baseball

mystere24
mystere24

I wish instead of over analyzing we could just KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). David is playing through an injury, plain and simple, which shows admirable character but hurts performance. He probably should have gone on the DL at the very least. He will bounce back next year if healthy. Period.

hankincolo
hankincolo

Think about this one. Granderson was signed to be our number 4 hitter. Didn't work. I do suspect that when David heard about the signing he thought, Great!...now I'm not the only one expected to hit homeruns. So then Granderson, who is turning into Jason Bay light, left the power duties to David, except by the time Duda started hitting for power, David was fighting through slumps and he damaged his shoulder. 


Want to see a little bit of the old David? Add two power bats, or at least one more, in other words duplicate the Beltran-Delgado days when David was the wing-man and not expected to be "THE" man.

hankincolo
hankincolo

Enough already, he's 31! He's not ready for the glue factory. What I'm seeing is a guy who may be emotionally fatigued but apparently playing with a sore shoulder. He might also benefit from losing 10 pounds. Going into next season, he will need to take a Sunday off or at least do it on the road and strategically rest for two days when possible. Reduced playing time will mean more for him.

Craig Mitchell
Craig Mitchell

Man...look at all the troll in this thread. David Wright is the best pure hitter and position player the Mets ever developed. He's a cinch for 2,500 hits (if he stays healthy) and had a decent shot at the hall....Met fans are the cruelest most fickle bunch of fans I have ever seen......He's 31 not 36.... Betlran, and Delgado produced till about age 36....no reason why Wright can't too....I just find Trolls that masquerade as Met fans really shameful...and they have very short memories and no appreciation for a truly special player. 

Michael Zvirblis
Michael Zvirblis

With Wright & Granderson's mediocre year, all the great pitches they have are gonna be wasted in the years ahead. Go find another team or another sport, Met fans.

greekgod
greekgod

AGE! He's finished. Trade him to a high caliber team that want to win and need a bat in his category......a .270 hitter. Wright needs a more pleasant atmosphere..

George Komninakis
George Komninakis

Most underrated Met=  Carlos Delgado!  The moment he went down the Mets went down as well as did Wright's numbers.  Carlos's bat was not the only presence but he was a leader in the clubhouse something Wright has had a very hard time being because the pressure gets to him.  

David Wright is a nice piece to have on a championship caliber team loaded with bats..he is not a nice piece to have when he is asked to be the superstar to carry a team on his back aka a Pujols/Bonds/Cabrera!  

I would trade Wright, move Murphy to 3rd, bring up Dilson to play 2nd, and go get me a big bat at ss and/or left field.  

I could see this kind of line-up working very well...

Dilson
Granderson
Murphy 

Duda
Kemp 
Granderson 
D'arnaud 
Addison Russell 
Pitcher

Bruce Mitrani
Bruce Mitrani

Good solid player-a part of the solution but not the total solution. Can't ask a guy who can bench 350 lbs to bench a ton.

matmil
matmil

I never considered Wright a superstar. And the fact that he may be declining should come as no shock to anybody. Even if it's his shoulder right now, it's only a matter of time before age catches up to him. That doesn't mean he won't produce, just not at the pace he did when he was younger. Less power but hopefully a smarter hitter. He is a Met for life so everybody is gonna have to live with it.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Something has to be wrong but I doubt it's age. He has just started to pull some HRs at Citi, but now it seems that the best he can do is bloop balls down the right field line. When David used to go into slumps he'd correct it by driving balls up the middle. Until he can I'll believe he has physical problems or bad habits resulting from physical problems.

bromancer
bromancer

This team will never win anything until the David Wright era is over.  The crying shame is that it could and should have been, and our so-called rebuild might actually have worked.  He is, functionally and symbolically, our ball and chain.  He is the suffocating second generation contract.  He is the façade of the franchise.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Start opening your eyes when you swing the bat, David. Seriously!

Mark Dietrich
Mark Dietrich

Problem is in his glory years he had a good supporting class Beltran Delgado Reyes ect he's got nothing now

thisthingcameapart
thisthingcameapart

At 31 years old, he should be able to shake this off and return to being the player he was as recently as a year ago. " this should be the article. You ask questions, then answer them, then disregard those who ask the same questions you just finished asking! Why does this blog have to be as bad as our team? How many people would love to do this for a living!?

archer41
archer41

This team is already on shaky ground, but this will be a full blown disaster if Wright is in rapid decline. 

whizz17
whizz17

This team has quit on Terry Collins, he needs to go!

bcpics
bcpics

David Wright is playing in an organisation where the weight of expectation is massive. As fans, he is the only hitter in our line up that we place expectation on - because for so many years he has carried much of the offensive weight.

There is little doubt he is having an ordinary year but it is now incumbent on the front office to lay some money down for a couple of proven MLB bats.

Our job is to change our expectations of Wright. He need not be the 100 RBI guy if there is some quality around him, and the opportunity for him to hit in the middle order may just revitalise him for his remaining years.

Unfortunately it seems to come down, once again, to our owners being willing to spend some money.

Mont5
Mont5

The Mets had no choice but to give Wright a contract. It was a fan decision choice. They needed a to have a face to go with the team. Just like naming him Captain was also fan driven decision. But the reality was the best choice was to trade him. Now we are stuck with just a regular player that we call Captain.

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

We are in a league now where sadly if you make 100 million that doesn't make you a super star. It's the 200 million guys now. Cabrera Kershaw etc. David earned his best years with great lineup protection and there is nothing wrong with that. Power numbers are down everywhere. Even Cabrera has had low power numbers without prince in front of him. It is what it is. What bothers me is that if David is a true captain in every sense of the word he should recognize his issues and either shut it down or ask to bat 2nd 5th or 6th. Don't be stubborn and hurt the team more. I believe David and Murphy can both be .300/15/85 guys that book end the power guys. The only problem is the mets won't spend for the power. So if theyaren't going to spend then maybe it's time to trade murphy and David and do a true rebuild rather than have us watch mediocrity or the band aid on a huge wound every night.

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

Even on an off season David is still a top ten 3B in baseball (look at the rankings)....there are not a lot of good 3B in the league and we dont have any big time 3B prospects....


If you trade him...you create a serious hole there along with the holes at SS and LF


I have suggested this and i think it is the best option and would be a huge plus for us.


go trade for Starlin Castro. Slide him in the two hole and Murphy 3. This way you have two guys back to back that are professional hitters. Move Wright to the 5 hole...If the Duda this season is the real Duda...then it will take pressure off Wright...get Granderson out of the leadoff spot and move him 6th and put Lagares FOR NOW as the lead off guy. His numbers as the leadoff hitter are best on the team


Lagares

Castro

Murphy

Duda

Wright

Granderson

LF

D'arnaud

vandelay
vandelay

@Blanca Recinos testing was instituted back in 2004. And Wright's 2013 and 2012 were better than his 2010

dannym28
dannym28

@Scott MacKenzie the dude ks like crazy as well. if he faces the mets in a four game series he will K, a lot 

ken1010
ken1010

@kcas44

The WAR graph on this site shows he has been an excellent player five of the last 10 years, and a decent player the other years.  I doubt there is any other third baseman that has as much total WAR over the last 10 years.  Based on the stats, he is not over-rated.  He is one of the five best position players the Mets have produced in 50+ years.  Nobody ever said he was Pujols in his prime, or even Cano right now.  He is not over-rated.

ken1010
ken1010

@greekgod We could use a .270 hitter who is a good fielder, worth 3 WAR.  We don't have a lot of those.  

ken1010
ken1010

@bromancer

Wright has a reasonable contract.  With WAR going for $6m or $7m per year on the free agent market, per Hardball Times, Wright only needs to average about 3 WAR per year to earn his contract.  He can do that.

If he was a .300 hitter with 20+ home runs and 100 rbi's he'd be getting Cano money.  He is not.

If Wright's contract is "suffocating" it's the WIlpon's and Madoff's fault, not that we're overpaying Wright.

nncyel
nncyel

@bromancer You certainly have a career writing melodrama if for whatever reason you are fired from your current job.

vandelay
vandelay

@BiggieTKB or maybe the opposite.  He looks skinnier than he did several years ago.  I think he took weight off after the back and hamstring injuries - maybe his power went with it 

hankincolo
hankincolo

@BiggieTKB or 10. It seems to me he lost some power when he bulked up one winter.
 Perhaps to compensate for the ridiculous Rightfield  power alley in Citifield that worked so well for him at Shea.

tullydew
tullydew

Call FEMA, they will be needed.

tullydew
tullydew

Harvey should be the captain of this team. Wright just isn't captain material. He is just too passive and quiet. No passion.

nncyel
nncyel

@BerryBeltran Intelligent post about Wright, though I don't agree with the Castro trade. David Wright will be New York sports next Patrick Ewing. He won't be appreciated enough until he's gone. 

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@BerryBeltran It is amazing how quickly people want to dump Wright for having an off season.  They probably were the same people that were posting stupid things a few years back like "Captain Kirk is raking in AA!"

tullydew
tullydew

If Lucas Duda is the #4 hitter next year, the Mets are going nowhere. That lineup still stinks unless Tomas is signed to play LF but that costs money so it won't happen.

bromancer
bromancer

@ken1010 @bromancer  I believe we are and, moreover, will be overpaying him -- but I do agree with your point about our owners.

bromancer
bromancer

@nncyel @bromancer  Thanks.  "Melodrama" -- That's a pretty apt descriptor for the current state of our team.

@tullydew Because you know for sure what type of leader David is and in your own opinion there can only be one type. The loud vocal rant and rave sort that flips tables. Yeah that ALWAYS works.


David Wright is the focal Captain of this team for US and no one else. You can bet there are a lot of leaders on this team.


TERRY COLLINS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@tullydew Duda is fine as our cleanup hitter.  The problem is that the same year that we found our #4, we lost our #3.

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

@tullydew haha, so funny, i was going to reply to that post/lineup by saying "not too shabby, just make sure they spend some dough on Tomas to play LF and i'll expect big things from them in 2015"....Tomas is the guy, with a trade for Castro, Baez, or Russell...forget CarGo, forget Tulo....spend a little more on the next big cuban defector in Tomas, and work out a trade with Chicago...we'll still have money to negotiate extensions for Murphy, and possibly WHeeler and Harvey (doubt boras will let harvey sign a deal in his arb years, but u can try to talk). 


That really should be their only play this off season, Tomas and a Cubs SS

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

@tullydew Depends on if they go out and get a good LF....then it can change again...I am suggesting this lineup not knowing the LF....If they go out and get a true clean up hitter...it will shift everyone from 4 down...making David the 6th hitter, Lucas the 5th

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

@BerryBeltran I'm sure there is someone out there who would be perfectly content with den Deckker playing left, and Renyolds playing short with Tejada.  That someone either is overdosing on the Kool Aid, or Jeff Wilpon.