Here is audio of Terry Collins in PSL, says he likes Ike’s swing

Terry Collins believes Ike Davis has a more quiet, more flat swing this spring, creating better back spin on the ball, he told reporters in St. Lucie today.


DSC_0293


“I’m really impressed with what I’ve seen,” Collins said. “His swing is absolutely, completely different than it was last year. He’s really quited down all the action he had at home plate. He knows he needed to do it. The batting practices are outstanding. He’s hitting a lots of balls to center field, left-center field.”


Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Save it, Terry. I appreciate the positivity and, while what you say may be true, it’s not going to matter until we see Ike hit real pitching. Frankly, it’s probably not going to matter until we see Ike hit real pitching in real games through the first few weeks of the season, and even then I’m not sure most fans will believe what we’re seeing. It’s the hole he has dug. I hope he fights out of it, rips the cover off the ball every day and reestablishes himself as this team’s bonafide first baseman. But, until that happens, talk of level swings and batting practice home runs will only matter in the context of his confidence, which is the  true root of the overall problem.

Here is full audio of Collins talking to reporters in St. Lucie on Saturday:




53 comments
pochemu
pochemu

Ike has "quited" his swing.


Whatever.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Nelson Cruz

Home: .294/.356/.556, 132 wRC+

Away: .242/.299/.435, 95 wRC+

Over his career

yankeehater
yankeehater

I have as much hate for the wilpons as anyone, but SERIOUSLY....it took nelson cruz until almost March to sign for a paltry 8 mill for one year. Not only did the mets not sign him....but 30 other teams apparently had little interest as well. He has some power buy he is a defensive liability....he's going to primarily DH in Baltimore. If C young hits 15 hrs' his defense will make up for the 10-12 more hrs that cruz will hit. Honestly....these guys will be a basic wash when defense is factored into the equation.

NYMetsLander
NYMetsLander

Nelson Cruz signs a 1 year deal for a million more than Young and Sandy's excuse is "he doesn't have our approach". LOL. What is our approach? Not hitting at all and continuing to lose? Also, nice to see Metsblog all over this signing with no post. Classic.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Why don't we have a video of this "more quiet, more flat swing"?

Mike Davidoff
Mike Davidoff

Nice to here Cerrone going against the suits at sny and saying something (kind of) negative. 

heatcoach
heatcoach

Is Terry talking up Ike to build his confidence or to influence clubs to want to trade for him?  Can you trust Terry and Sandy discussing anything with Ike after the verbal beating they put on him this winter?  The two of them and Hudgens should just leave him alone and let him prove his worth.  They should also trade or demote Duda and get him out of Ike's sight.  This is a player who, prior to being stepped on by David Wright, appeared poised to have an All-Star career and now he's gotten the spare part label.  Enough already.  Duda and Satin can't tie Davis' spikes if he is right. 

mets2891
mets2891

People can justify it all they want, if the Mets could've gotten Cruz for 10 mil for ONE season and didn't, then they're either idiots (always a possibility with this front office) or they can't spend any more money (more likely).

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Collins is looking to pull the old pump and dump.  He'll be dispatched first chance they get.

rkj473
rkj473

All that from batting practice? Can the guy face other hitters before such a statement is made.

dannym28
dannym28

Matt,you should be a motivational speaker. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

I'm going to laugh like hell when Drew signs somewhere for 1 year at less than the 9.5! Guarantee after the Cruz signing that SA gulped and told Boras they were retracting that offer! They can't afford Drew and were trying to appease the fans. But now that the market is falling out, we'll see,

Joey Famighetti
Joey Famighetti

Off topic but how did Nelson Cruz only cost half a million more then what we paid for Chris young.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Confidence isn't the true root of his problems...there's a very good chance he was just never as good as we thought. He's been awful for a much long period then being even moderately productive.

Mau Agudelo
Mau Agudelo

Funny that there isn't a comments section for the Cruz signing! Guess the Wilson's didn't approve that either!

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

Way to go in Cerrone, I can respect what you just wrote. TC has a way of keeping positive despite what Ike has shown us in the past two seasons. If Ike shows up this season, that would be incredible because I don't want to see Duda, at any position...

nolrog
nolrog

Is there a video of his swing?

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Wow! Not that I liked Cruz but he just signed for 1 year at 8M. Wow! Good deal for the Birds

Bob Giacalone
Bob Giacalone

Agreed, Matt!  People keep forgetting that Ike was doing well last spring, too.  I think it may be a head issue, not a swing issue. 

Frank Kajtazi
Frank Kajtazi

I'll believe it when I see it Terry and Ike!


ponzies86
ponzies86

Other news Nelson Cruz sign 8 million dollar deal with the O's while the Mets signed Chris Young to a 7 Million Dollar deal -_-

Patrick Boegel
Patrick Boegel

@Joe Wenzel  Except when he not only swallows its but mixes its and serves it.  See Don't Questions Sandy, he did not have a crystal ball, which is an argument built on a false premise.  

paqza
paqza

@NYMetsLander All these Mets' "fans" who want Nelson Cruz seem to have no idea that the Mets play in the National League. There's no DH in the National League, and there's definitely no space for a DH who a) can't field b) only hits well because of his home park (Arlington), and c) who was suspended for 50 games for PEDs last year.


Nelson Cruz is a great catch for the Orioles since they have a DH but he wouldn't have made sense for us. Chris Young is a GG defender who has also hit 30 homers, but who also provides value on defense and around the bases.

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

@NYMetsLander  yea.... how long ago did we sign young? how much was cruz asking for? 15 mill per a year or something like that? if we offered him 8 mill back when we signed young you would be calling alderson a moron.

Mau Agudelo
Mau Agudelo

Exactly about the no post, I mean it's just ridiculous

paqza
paqza

@heatcoach  Duda's a better overall career hitter than Davis on game-by-game basis. But it's easier to bend reality to fit your vision, I guess.

niesesnose
niesesnose

A platoon of Duda and Satin would likely produce at above league average for first baseman and be top 10 in wRC for 1B

paqza
paqza

@mets2891  Or they don't want a DH in the outfield. I guess you are unaware that the Mets are an NL team and therefore don't have DHs in most of their games.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Why would u want Cruz? First off, there's no way of knowing his market would've dropped off that much. Second, he has terrible home and away splits and can't play defense. He would've been a bust.

paqza
paqza

@Joey Famighetti  Because Nelson Cruz is a PED user, his numbers were inflated by a ballpark that encourages offense, he can't field, and he was given a QO which meant that the Orioles gave up a draft pick.

lausenberg
lausenberg

@Victor Triguero  And where do we play Cruz? It would have been nice if we could swap out Chris Young for Cruz but it's too late now. I don't think anyone thought at the beginning of the offseason that Cruz would be had this cheap. Cruz probably over played his hand and all the teams that were interested signed other players. The Mets acted quickly this offseason, as did most other teams, so it's really hard to fault them on not signing Cruz this late into the offseason. 

Also, the Mets already offered Drew 1 year for 9.5, which was turned down because he wanted more. So if he won't take that, I don't blame the Mets for not signing Drew. What Drew's asking for is straight up ridiculous, especially when he has zero bargaining power at this point.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Victor Triguero  Eventually people are going to wake up and realize it is true that the bank is limiting their payroll! You guys want to believe the Met's? Of course they are going to say that!!!!

Wake up people!!!!!!!!

lausenberg
lausenberg

@ponzies86  To be fair, there was A LOT of free agent signings early in the offseason throughout baseball  and Chris Young was one of them for the Mets. I don't think anyone thought Cruz was be this cheap in the beginning, but he obviously overplayed his hand and now he has to settle. I'd be nice if we could swap out Chris Young for Cruz though, even though Cruz is like a statue in the OF.

Joe De Sr.
Joe De Sr.

niesesnose, I'll have what your drinking !

NYMetsLander
NYMetsLander

@niesesnose  Enough with the can't play defense excuse. THE METS CAN"T HIT! This is a disgrace.

mets2891
mets2891

@niesesnose Am I missing something?  I just looked at Cruz's home/away splits last season and they were almost identical.  At least Chris Young's splits were consistent (consistently garbage).

niesesnose
niesesnose

I award you the dumbest comment ever award

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@lausenberg @Victor Triguero  I really don't want Cruz now. And you are right it would be a struggle to get him in the field. I said from day one that SA jumped on CY at the time and overpaid for him because he knew he had holes and thought he would end up with nothing. 

And yes SA offered Drew 9.5M because he knew Boras wouldn't take it. I don't think they can afford him at all and this is just the FO trying to appease fans that they are trying to sign players but they want too much! Of course Boras is going to ASK for 14M, it's negotiating! 

paqza
paqza

@niesesnose  I'm with this guy. CY is going 20/20 with GG defense whereas Cruz, off his drugs and out of the bandbox, will implode.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Sorry, I meant to say look at what he did after he came back from his suspension. Cruz is a DH and only a step above Duda. He played in an absolute bandbox in Arlington and could have very well been using PEDs most of the season. Heck, I might even be inclined to bet CY hold more value, WAR wise over Cruz by the end of the year. CY had an extremely low BABIP due to the huge amount of foil territory in Oakland. Stats show his plate discipline has not declined, indicating a bounce back year is likely. He could Easily .235 with 18 HRs and very good defense with some stolen bases. Here, read this article on CY. It should change your opini

on on the signing

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mets-land-bargain-in-chris-young/

mets2891
mets2891

 @mets2891 @niesesnose All indications are the Mets didn't reach out.  And let's be honest, the Mets are very sensitive about the perception that they are broke, so Sandy would've made it been known if Cruz accepted a lesser deal.

Adam Stein
Adam Stein

@mets2891 @niesesnose  Agreed that if they could've gotten cruz for 1 year 10 mil or even 2 yrs 20 i would've given him, it is idiotic.  But what if he just wants to rebuild his value this year and didn't want to do it in citi field. Definitely a possibility

niesesnose
niesesnose

There is no market for Drew. Accept it. Bidding against ourselves is what got is in trouble in the first place