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Harvey will throw from a mound after All Star break

Matt Harvey will not throw off a mound until after the All-Star break, Sandy Alderson told reporters on Friday.

Similarly, Harvey recently said he expects to throw from a mound in late July (ESPN, June 21).

In the meantime, he continues to throw off flat ground.

In addition, Alderson said in late May that, although Harvey may wish to make five to seven starts this season, the Mets want him to wait at least 11 months after his Tommy John surgery before he pitches in a game, which is standard protocol and the doctor recommended time frame.

Harvey has said he wants to go in to the off season knowing he’s capable of pitching in a game.




47 comments
eric88
eric88

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William Bonilla
William Bonilla

I think dealing Colon to the Yankees could net us a nice return...Yanks are 3 games out of a playoff spot and are in desperate need of pitching...right now their options are basically Colon and Lee...Colon is old but is due only 11 million next year while Lee is due over 25 million next year plus whatever the buyout is to decline his option for 2016 and Lee is no kid either...I think the Mets could take advantage of the Yankees situation

kph16
kph16

He wants to go into the offseason knowing he's capable of pitching in a game.  I have an idea.  Put together a simulated game where he throws to Chris Young and Tejada.


He'll go into the offseason convinced he's a perennial Cy Young winner.


Way to put yourself ahead of the team Matt, real classy.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Here we go again with this silliness. 

hankypanky
hankypanky

at long last Dr. Harvey is taking a cue from his training in medical school.

joe21
joe21

the biggest problem for Sandy is the availability of proven bats. Stanton, Tulo, Trout, Cabrera, et al are not likely to be available, so if he is going to get a bat, he is going to have to gamble on either a AAA bat on the cusp or a MLB bat with some risk. he is likely trying to get the former from the Cubs and I would (at the risk of getting creamed on this blog) take a flyer on Josh Hamilton. he is due $30 M a year for the next three years and the Angels are desperate to clear some payroll with Pujols saddling them for the next 8 years, so I think the Mets could get him without trading crown jewels and get around $10M a year paid if they gave up some value. Hamilton at 3/$60M is not crazy and if healthy and right (big question) he is exactly the type of proven barrel the Mets need. would he be my first choice? no, but none of my first choices are available.


Granderson

d'Arnaud

Murphy

Wright

Hamilton

Baez

Duda

Lagares

mystere24
mystere24

Barring a trade, the 2015 Mets rotation should be:

1. Harvey

2. Niese

3. Wheeler

4. DeGrom

5. Syndergaard

That leaves Colon, Gee, and Montero available for trade with Hefner, who will be back, as a possible fallback for an injury. Gee and Montero should be enough to return one of the three Cubs SS. Since they just got Russell, Castro or Baez should be available in return for pitching. That leaves Collon, Murphy, and perhaps another prospect, who should return the slugging OF we need for the middle of the order.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

Piggybacking my post in the Niese thread......If Niese is not here next season, Harvey will not only be asked to anchor this staff but lead it too.  In order to do that he has to be 100% healthy (and maybe find some humility).  Bringing him back this year in a season that Sandy conceded back in March, makes no sense.  Especially with the possibility of re-injury. AND, it allows Sandy to send an old caribbean message to Harvey:


"WE run tings, tings no run WE."      Translation:  We'll tell YOU when you'll pitch Matt...not vice versa.

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

So the Yankees lost CC and are in need of a fat pitcher...do you think they would trade for Colon? I would love to get refsnyder but idk if the Yanks let him go for a 41 year old pitcher

Jim Yager
Jim Yager

All this talk about Harvey, let's be real here. Even IF he was pitching for the METS today, we can't win a game if we can't score a run! Look at the Phillies, they loaded up on pitching and won 1 WS, pitching alone will not get it done. With Harvey in the mix in 2015 what can we hope for, a 500 season, at best?

mingo
mingo

Why does this matter right now?

atrain311
atrain311

Can he swing a bat from the batter's box?

tullydew
tullydew

No need to bring up their salaries. The Yankees don't care about what a player makes. Remember they are from a big market called New York.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@kph16  Why is that putting himself ahead of the team? He simply wants to eliminate the anxiety over the winter of knowing if he will be ok.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@joe21 I agree with your assessment. The other 29 teams recognize that the Mets are operating day to day out of desperation.  There's no reason NOT to take a hard line with Sandy regarding trades, offering only what they want.  It's why Sandy can really only trade during the deadline.  However, I wouldn't take that flyer on Hamilton.  For a bunch of reasons, least of which is his drug history.  In NYC?  

hashburry
hashburry

@joe21 Well, if you think the Mets can get Pujols, and his 8 year contract, start making the calls.  Old and damaged sink hole, just what the Mets need.

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

You are right you probably will get creamed here lol...and I would understand why...but to be honest I get what your saying...I'd be kind of scared to pull the trigger....it would be a huge risk but if it worked the Mets could be in business

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@mystere24 Syndergaard hasn't thrown a pitch for the Mets yet this year. Would prefer to keep Gee.

joe21
joe21

@mystere24  one of those 5 are going to be needed to get a Cub SS or a Montero/Plawecki combo. if you are going one for one to get Baez or Russell, then Syndegaard or Wheeler is going

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

Seems good...but what OF do you think we would be able to get?

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@William Bonilla Refsnyder might be the best hitter in AAA right now.  Since the beginning of 2013 he's jumped 4 levels.  He'd be a perfect Met since he has no natural position.  Right now they're playing him at 2nd base.  Since he's not a true power hitter, he doesn't really fit the DH job description.  He's a tantalizing chip to dangle at a team like Tampa who might want to deal David Price. 

joe21
joe21

@bockers  the news out this am is that there were originally three teams involved in the Cubs/A's deal, with the suspicion that the Mets were the third team. it is no secret that the Mets and Cubs have been obvious trade partners due to their respective needs and surpluses, so I think something is coming down within days. the question is who comes and who goes? The Cubs are close to putting a crazy infield together and if they added a catcher, it would be even crazier. even if they move Bryant to the outfield, the Cubs still have one extra IF, so the choices are Russell, Castro, Baez or Alcantara. Three of those four will be 2B, SS and 3B, with Bryant joining Soler in the outfield.


so, who do you want and what are you willing to pay? my guess is that Sandy had Castro lined up last week as the third team in, which is why they have played short in the IF, but I would actually prefer anyone of the other three. Baez is likely to be an offensive beast, with limitations in the field. Alcantara would be a downgrade from Baez offensively, but probably better in the field. Russell might be the best overall, but he is a year or two away.


surprisingly, I think I would opt for Alcantara. he is a major upgrade over Tejada and would cost less than the other two. if you want Baez or Russell, it is going to cost Syndegaard or Plawecki, plus another piece

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@mingo He's a Yankee in his heart as soon as he is eligible to walk he will.  With this dysfunctional mess can u blame him?

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

They may not be penny pinchers like the Mets but payroll does have to be a thought even for the Yankees...look who their 2nd baseman is right now...even the Yanks have a limit to their spending...a 36 year old pitcher coming off of injury making over 25 million next year could be past the limit...not that a 41 year old pitcher making 11 million is cheap but the Yanks need pitching badly if they want to make the playoffs and what other options do they have?

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

I doubt the As even look at Colon after grabbing the 2 pitchers from the Cubs...my thinking is that the Yanks are in the playoff hunt and desperately need pitching...Price would be a perfect fit for them but Tampa is not trading him within the division...with limited options the Yanks could look at Colon...Yankees will be making a trade for a pitcher they are not a team to give up on playoff hopes...the question is who will they target?

kph16
kph16

@cleonsvan Because with us in a free fall lost season, its not about him or his questions.  Its about being 100% for next spring for the team.

If there is a 1% chance that he affects his healing by doing this, then its wrong.  

joe21
joe21

@citifield @joe21  I did say it comes with risk but he has played 150 games in each of last two years. did have wrist injury to start, but looks to have recovered. if not him, then who?

joe21
joe21

@William Bonilla  the question is not whether the Mets need a bat, but who that bat is going to be. it gets a bit tiring on this blog with everyone screaming for a bat, but nobody offers up a real person to fill that need. I cant think of any other bat that is really available, so that is why I suggest Hamilton. plus, he would murder Citi Field and is just starting to get his form back

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

Syndergaard straight up for Baez...keep Gee (more of a sure thing) take a chance on Tomas....get what you can for Tolo and see what we can do in 2015...to be honest idk if that would be enough but what more could we do?

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

I don't see Tampa trading Price to the Yankees....right now I see the Yanks options as Cliff Lee and Bartolo Colon....Lee would definitely cost more than Colon the Phils would be looking for a solid package for him...I think the Mets might be able to steal a guy like Refsnyder from the Yanks on a 1 for 1 deal...maybe the mets throw in some minor leaguer if anything...adding Refsnyder makes Murphy that much more tradable

dooley
dooley

The Yankees don't have enough pieces to land Price, unless they get super creative. Second tier pitching is their best bet

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

If the Mets can get Hamilton down to 20 Million a season I would rather him than say Kemp...now as far as Tomas...he would probably cost around 11 million or so for about 5 or 6 years...and has never seen a pitch in the Majors...all things considered I think I would lean towards Tomas...but 3/60 for Hamilton or 6/66 for Tomas is kind of close....all least with Hamilton he has had success at the major league level...risk either way...I'll lean towards Tomas but I wouldn't hate Hamilton....please just no kemp

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

I agree...the thing is even at 20 million Hamilton contract would be tough to swallow for the Mets...another option could be Tomas for around 11 million or so...right now idk which one would be the bigger risk....but at this point as far as OF is concerned if the Mets want to take a step forward they would have to be willing to take a risk...because no sure things are available right now...if the Hamilton thing actually went down I would support it...big risk but it's about time this team takes a chance

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@William Bonilla Normally I'd agree, problem is that this kid has to be a tantalizing option to a cost conscious team given his meteoric rise and the fact that he makes no money.   At his age and salary Colon is only going to fetch you a mid-level prospect or a comparable salary dump.  My guess is that the Yankees would probably want deGrom and I don't see that happening. 

Jim Yager
Jim Yager

@brian2740 @Steve Finelli @Jim Yager  All we keep hearing about is Harvey, IF, the team sits on it's hands, like they always do, and, sign nobody we will see more of the same. They can't sit back and be happy because Harvey is here, they need to add the pieces needed to help him win!!!

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@brian2740  Why?  All they did was change the messenger to Lamar.  It's the same message (ie hitting philospophy).  Changes in swing mechanics?  Hard to find the specific mechanical change in 13 different hitters that is going to cause a .040 to .075 jump in averages.  Especially since it's doubtful they exist

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

I actually still believe in Thor...and I'll say it yes the Mets could end up regretting a trade of Thor for Baez or Russell but they could also be getting a steal...chances are it works for both sides...with the Mets depth in pitching I think Thor is expendable...gotta give up quality to get quality...I'm not saying 100% go make the deal right now but I would definitely look into it

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@William Bonilla (Footnote) Before deGrom could be traded to the Yankees he'd have to wave the no haircut clause in his contract. 

William Bonilla
William Bonilla

I agree...for the record I think Tomas will have success but at the same time sooner or later one of these Cubans are going to flop lol....i just hope it's not one that the Mets sign lol