Harvey to throw in next few days, team not happy he talked

1:33 p.m.: Pitching coach Dan Warthen said Matt Harvey has been cleared to throw and will start his throwing program within the next couple of days.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

1:02 p.m.: Harvey will throw in the next few days, according to people close to the team in St. Lucie. Having just been cleared to throw, it seems they first want to determine what will be best for his rehab schedule.

For what it’s worth, I’ve heard from people in camp that say the team is not too happy that Harvey talked to ESPN New York before giving the organization time to create a response and schedule. The way I’ve heard it, Harvey talked and forced the team to scramble a bit. I think they hoped to have a plan in place for when he would actually throw before being forced to address reporters. As such, the team deliberated quite a while today after morning stretches, undecided whether to let Harvey speak with reporters and cameras patiently waiting by his locker.

Remember, the Mets do not want 2014 — or this camp — to be about Harvey’s every move. They want the spotlight to be on other aspects of the on-field team, while Harvey is allowed time to rehab and get right. So, I expect this type of thing will happen at other points during the next year or so.

As for his arm, according to people close to the team, the Mets want to be 100 percent certain that the rest of Harvey’s body is ready to throw, so not to put any additional stress on his surgically-repaired elbow…


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In the end, Harvey did not talk with reporters today and the team has yet to make an official announcement about his throwing schedule, though I suspect that will change in the next day or so.

By the way, yes, Maggie, Harvey was wearing his Batman t-shirt this morning, which was beyond awesome to see…




68 comments
lindro88
lindro88

Love Matt Harvey as much as the next Mets fan, but this guy really has to learn that he is part of a team.  The last thing they need is Matt Harvey dominating the news.  He is rehabbing a major injury.  Once in a while it will be nice to see him spend a few days with the team, but this season has to be about the players on the roster.   

hashburry
hashburry

The Mets from office continues to act like buffoons.  All they have to say is they don't have a hard and fast schedule yet.  It is to be determined with the medical/training staff.  What a bunch of immature non-professionals.

mustang66
mustang66

if they're so stupid that they haven't had talks about what to say about their best pitcher, then they are as big of idiots as we think they are. They should prefer we speak about Harvey, rather than all the bats that they did not sign

georgie
georgie

I hope they talk about Harvey; better than the pundits talking about Jeter and am sick and  tired already chit chatting about his freaken retirement.


4Q Jeter

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

I wonder who these "people in camp" are? Have feeling they are people who probably don't spend much time with Harvey or Mets brass.

Jimmy P.
Jimmy P.

The Harvey will throw title is misleading. He will be soft tossing. He's a long ways away from "throwing" in the sense of pitching terms.

Guess there wasn't any new Drew rumors today.

Daniel Wexler
Daniel Wexler

For once I'm with the Mets. Harvey should tell reporters he's not talking until he's just about ready to begin rehab games. He and Boras shouldn't lobby for him to travel with the team. How often does a player coming off TJ travel with his team? Absolutely love Matt Harvey but keep quiet for now.

Steven M. Harries
Steven M. Harries

One has to admire how the NYY and generally the NYG control their messages. Hell, Yankee-loving Fatdog got canned from his YES slot for cavorting with ARod on radio and they put that NYY Muppet, Kay, in his place to spread the NYY propaganda. Don't want the Mets to be as evil as the NYY, but we can do better than Jay Horwitz, I think.

Keith Appell
Keith Appell

Just speculating but perhaps this is a reflection of a lack of confidence in the team's PR capabilities. Harvey's personality is no secret, he doesn't want to sit around, he's antsy. Understanding that and working with him on a thoughtful strategy that releases info to the public/fans, satisfies his desire to be seen as working hard to rehab and get back on the field as soon as possible, but also serves the team's priorities, would probably keep him from doing this.  Even players (or entertainment stars) with the biggest egos are willing to cooperate if they have confidence in management's strategies and abilities in these situations. When they lack that confidence, they're tempted to take things into their own hands because they can.  2014 should not be about Harvey's rehab, but he's still one of two marquee stars and the budding face of the franchise.  A little thought and consultation into making that work for everyone goes a long way. 

Shawn Sparks
Shawn Sparks

This is a situation where past incompetence has led to paranoia.  Matt Harvey says, "I've been cleared to throw," inevitably causing someone in the media to ask the Mets, "When and where will he start throwing?"

If the Mets say, "We haven't worked out the details yet," it's a perfectly reasonable answer and one with which 30 other MLB teams could get away.  However, if the Mets say that, the internet immediately blows up with cries of "This team is so freaking clueless!"

Fine.  I get that, but if the team has that fear, they need to specifically tell the player to keep everything on the down-low until they're ready to make an announcement.  Don't allow him the opportunity, then get peeved about it after the fact.  Have a little foresight, for heaven's sake.



Alessandro Fustinoni
Alessandro Fustinoni

Oh no!! They had to scramble around! Oh boy.. On the fourth day of spring training??!?! C'mon Matt! What are you doing??

Aaaah yes.. they needed a "plan" for this too.. 

BadContract
BadContract

The unhappy "team" should be more prepared. Really? Their day was ruined with work figuring out what to do next? C'mon Man!

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

Well maybe if they added some note worthy players, Harvey's rehab wouldn't be the focus. No one to blame but themselves

selldamets
selldamets

I will take the acumen of a kid with a degree from the University of North Carolina before I take direction from any Wilpon... I love Matt Harvey, but when he leaves for the Yankees in a few years, the Wilpons will deserve it.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

As much as I love Harvey, there's been a number of PR red flags in the last year...

mets2891
mets2891

I have to admit, I love everything that Harvey has done for the Mets on the field, but off it, he really comes off as a thin skinned diva.  Now, maybe being like that drives greatness, but I wish he could just recede from the spotlight for a little bit and just get healthy.

Ricardo Ronda
Ricardo Ronda

Can we stop with these snippy "team not happy",before you know it Harvey will be traded. stop. He's awesome. As long as he is rehabbing properly that is all that matters

D_Jamal21
D_Jamal21

@metsblog I have this weird feeling that Harvey and the are going to have a rough relationship leading to a terrible breakup.

Get over it!!! We have a guy who wants to play what's so wrong with that!

Thomas Stridiron
Thomas Stridiron

Who cares...is it top secret if he throws or not?  Lets not create problems where none exist.

chasesimms
chasesimms

Another d u m b jock.   Oh well, just get healthy Harvey.  

Metsnow
Metsnow

I really doubt the Mets are scrambling to come up with a plan for the media/ blog reporters about Harveys throwing schedule. It has been well documented that he will not pitch again until the earliest being September and that is a long shot as well. Its the bloggers making a big deal about this. Lets worry about who is playing SS; 1B, where our power numbers will come from, and how the BP is constructed. This team still has many holes. And by the way....who are our bench players besides Satin and Duda??

rock316nyj
rock316nyj

Why in the hell are we "left scrambling" to have a rehab program in place for our best pitcher when we knew he had the surgery 4 months ago?!?!?

duras23
duras23

Harvey has been throwing up warning signs for 2 years now that he thinks he's bigger than the team. Met fans who are ignoring it are naive. 24 and 1 atmosphere forming. Perfect example; team policy is everyone rehabs in PSL. Harvey says no, he should do it in NY. Anyone who thinks he's saying that to 'be with the team' is not paying attention. He can't stand to be away from the limelight that's been created for him.

Win 20 and he can be as 'ARod' as he wants to be. Right now it's just obnoxious.

Starz31
Starz31

@Daniel Wexler  I haven't heard if he wants to travel with them but that he wants to train in NY and attend the home games. I'm fine with it and like the idea if it's just the latter but otherwise I'm with you, he shouldn't be traveling with the team. 

Mark Kohn
Mark Kohn

@BadContract  Sounds like they were completely prepared to discuss this with Harvey before Harvey said what he said to Rubin. They weren't expecting to have that talk with him today.

Alessandro Fustinoni
Alessandro Fustinoni

Not here hasnt! It's just this front office/team that makes a big deal about it, oh and lets not forget the media too! The kid takes a leak, and they say he didnt do it the right way.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@MetsIsHotChief  The guys a loose cannon, that's a well established fact. I think the Mets are just trying to protect him from himself.  He tends to say and do things that demonstrate a clear lack of maturity.  They wouldn't put it past him to overextend himself and possibly do more or irreparable damage.  I rarely side with the clowns who own this team, but I agree with them when it comes to reeling this guy in. 

Mike Dupp
Mike Dupp

@rock316nyj  Harvey shoulda kept his mouth zipped......to quote Kramer...."Alright, the cat is meeoooow out of the bag!"

Bud Britton
Bud Britton

@duras23 first, in what way is he throwing up warning signs: because he goes to Ranger games, because he dates models, because he does magazine spreads? Get over it and stop being jealous. He can run naked down fifth avenue for all I care as long as he's ready on his turn. As far as not staying in PSL, why should he. Have you taken notice of the recent track record of that crew. Wouldn't it make sense to be where the best Doctors, trainers, therapists and such are available (metro NY area) in order to get the best available care. If it were my body, I would do the same thing. It's one thing for the team to offer input but you do what is good for you as the player for the long term.

realjetfan
realjetfan

@duras23 LOL. So electing to stay with your teammates in New York and being around the young guys like Wheeler and Syndergaard in June/July is "selfish" ? Okay, that's your opinion. I'll rather him do what makes him comfortable and be around his teammates.



And with the Mets medical staff's history at PSL, I'd stay as far away from them as possible if I was Harvey.

Sal
Sal

@duras23  He's a confident athlete who has performed incredibly well at the highest level of his sport.


Not everyone is a choir boy.  Some guys like the limelight.  That's not a crime - it's a personality - and it's a personality this team could use a bit more of. 


It's also not a crime to want to rehab in NY as opposed to PSL.  Why do you care where he does his rehab? 


All I have seen from the guy is a workhorse and competitive bulldog who takes his craft as serious as anyone. 


And people now feel the need to criticize this?


Mike Dupp
Mike Dupp

@duras23  


yea......dont really care much for Harvey knowing he's damaged goods. I'm a Wheeler guy

realjetfan
realjetfan

@Macacawitz @MetsIsHotChiefYou, and the three guys who liked your comment really need to learn the definition of a "fact." Sorry, but you just look very foolish and ignorant when you establish an opinion as a fact.

1harris1
1harris1

He's a "loose cannon" because he speaks his mind on things? Such an overreaction. Last I checked, he hasn't been arrested or done anything remotely bad enough to even warrant the team imposing a disciplinary measure.

The players from the mid 80 's Mets teams must be laughing their sides off at Alderson. & Company making an issue of this latest non story.

rock316nyj
rock316nyj

@Mike DuppI don't understand how Harvey opening up his mouth has anything to do with the real problem here. The real problem is that your BEST pitcher had TJ surgery 4 months ago, and the day after surgery was performed, doctors and other Mets personnel should have come up with a tentative schedule, barring setbacks, that Harvey would be following. Thus the reason he spoke on expecting to throw, since he waited 4 months like he was told. There should NOT be ANY miscommunication with Harvey, Mets officials, or doctors during this process. Harvey is ready to throw and was told its time for him to start throwing but we don't have a throwing program ready yet, something sounds very wrong here and my money is that it has to do with the same idiots who have botched how many other injuries over the past decade.

@Mike Dupp @rock316nyj  So Mike, if he kept his mouth zipped, when would've the Mets put a rehab program in place? August? September? And who would be putting the program together, the geniuses down in PSL who have screwed up every player that has been down there for the past 5 years?

duras23
duras23

@realjetfan @duras23

The medical staff comment is a valid one. That's a good point.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@realjetfan @Macacawitz @MetsIsHotChief  The Qualcomm fiasco is fact.  He made a jerk of himself.   The nude spread was misguided and the general consensus is that it was a poor choice, that's also fact.  If you want to live in an alternate reality, that's your business. 

mustang66
mustang66

yes. And you proved it with your last couple of comments

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@1harris1  No, he's a loose cannon because he doesn't know when he's publicly embarrassing himself.  There was no bigger cringe worthy moment in sports last year than the Qualcomm interview.  This is a free country.  Unfortunately, living in a free country gives you the right to make a complete jerk of yourself.  

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Sal @Mike Dupp @duras23 It's funny, on one hand the entitlement thing he has is part of what MAKES him great, but on the other it's what makes him look like a jerk.

If we get 4 more Cy Young level seasons from him we can all  be happy.

You'll be back on the bandwagon when he dominates.

Sal
Sal

@Mike Dupp @Sal @duras23  Come on Mike.  He's been great as a Met.  He's a world class athlete and he was the talk of the town before his injury.  Why does his confidence bother you?