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Mike Piazza not elected to Hall of Fame

Mike Piazza has not been elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Piazza received 62.2 percent of votes this year. Seventy-five percent is required to gain election into the Hall of Fame.

Piazza received 57.8 percent of the vote in 2013, his first year on the ballot.

“I was a little disappointed, I can’t lie about that,” Piazza said after last year’s vote. “To keep it in historical perspective as well, there were a lot of great players that didn’t get [in] on the first ballot. … I’m very proud of my career. If you look at my entire body of work, I’d put it up against any catcher that’s played the position.”

Greg Maddux (97.2%), Tom Glavine (91.9%) and Frank Thomas (83.7%) were all elected this year. Craig Biggio received 74.8 percent, and did not make the cut.

“On behalf of the organization and our fans, Mike is a true Hall of Famer,” Mets COO Jeff Wilpon said in a statment. “We proudly display his plaque in the Mets Hall of Fame, and we’re hopeful that he’ll soon have one hanging in Cooperstown.”

Piazza’s 396 home runs as a catcher are the most by a catcher in baseball history – he was a career .308 hitter with a .377 OBP and .922 OPS with 427 home runs in 16 seasons between 1992 and 2007.

In 872 games with the Mets, from 1998–2005, Piazza hit .296 with a .373 OBP and .542 SLG, 220 home runs and 655 RBI in 3,941 plate appearances.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

For me this is simple, I was a huge Piazza fan. He seems like a nice guy. He provided me with a lot of fun memories and I hope he gets in. However, personally, as a baseball fan, I stopped caring about the Hall of Fame (as a museum) a long, long time ago…

I don’t get a vote, and I don’t really respect the voting process, so it’s difficult for me to respect the results or assign meaning to them in the context of my experience as a baseball fan. I will love the game and be a Mets fan regardless of who a bunch of privileged sports writers tell me are better-than-average players. It has become a Hall of Good Players museum, which is nice and probably a fun trip to upstate New York. But, in the end, who is there and who isn’t doesn’t really dictate my love for the Mets and their quest for success.

By the way, no, I don’t think I should be allowed to vote. I’d be fine with other bloggers having the opportunity to weigh in. As a die-hard Mets fan, I could never cast a vote for Greg Maddux. He was awesome, I get it. I totally understand why someone would write his name on a ballot, and they probably should, given his dominance. But, for those exact reasons, and given how pissed off he made me on so many occasions, I just couldn’t physically get my hand to write his name. This is why I should never be allowed to vote on what is intended to be an impartial voting system.

262 comments
granger
granger

poor biggio... he missed it by .2% i mean come on... just round it up..lol...

Michael Fichera
Michael Fichera

As a die-hard Mets fan, I could never cast a vote for Greg Maddux."


Are you serious? You must be lying. 

metfan8669
metfan8669

Gotta be honest, I was rooting for Piazza to go in with Maddux and Glavine.  An NL East reunion after battling it out for years. (Mostly with us Mets fans on the losing end unfortunately.)

I found that Piazza had 90 PAs against Glavine and 81 PAs against Maddux. Against these 2, first-ballot, HOFers, he faired pretty well.

46 hits in 155 total ABs with 10 HRs. (.297 Avg. w/ 16 BBs.)

He faced these two more than any others. (Smoltz was third.)

Unfortunately this type of beauty in the game is overlooked. 

I am not slighting Thomas either, he is deserving. Just highlighting how suitable it would have been.

Mike DeRosa
Mike DeRosa

You know who should vote? All Active and Retired MLB players. 


Yes. The players. Give them a list of 20 players and two votes a year. Boom.

counselor
counselor

If he wouldve played for the Yankees, would he have gotten in?

counselor
counselor

Just another state of how screwed up baseball is.

mystere24
mystere24

So Matt, lets recap. You decry the process but then would replicate the flawed process if you had a vote by not voting for Maddux, a lock HOFer? No wonder Piazza, the most deserving player without any PED evidence, failed drug test, or substantive accusation against him, was not inducted.. Human stupidity will always be part of a subjective process, sadly, even when someone claims to have "baseball knowledge."

Ultramet
Ultramet

I think the writers have a tough time accepting the premise that Piazza, a former 62nd round pick, could become the greatest hitting catcher, without a little "help". Although the "I never failed a drug test" claim doesn't mean jack , Piazza not only fulfilled that criterion (I.e. He never failed a PED test), but he also was never named in the Mitchell Report or any other PED list. To not include him is an embarrassment. I would not go as far as Matt and say that the HOF is meaningless; however, baseball needs to really come to terms with an era that they would like to erase from memory , but will never be able to. Speculatively punishing great players is not the way to go, and suggests that the voting process should be re-evaluated if they cannot agree on how to deal with this era.

Frank Tangorra
Frank Tangorra

Piazza is top 5 best right handed hitters in this generation. He is the best offensive catcher of all time. This is just wrong. Look at this guys career. Even his days when he was in LA. I guess it's all steroid speculation. In his era every power hitter was suspect. Give us the proof that Piazza did it. It's just flat out wrong this guy isn't in the HOF

Muhammad Khan
Muhammad Khan

How is the greatest hitting catcher of all time not in the Hall of Fame??

kappyesq
kappyesq

It is an absolute travesty that Piazza & Biggio were left out for the second straight year. The Hall of Fame voting process is broken & it needs to be completely overhauled. I am in the minority, I guess, in my opinion that PED users should be inducted into the Hall. That's Steroid Era happened & nothing can change that. Steroids were so prevalent during the 80's thru the early 2000's that it is almost impossible to confidently separate the users from the non-users. If voters are so steadfast against inducting players who used, they need to establish a burden of evidence for excluding a player for PED use. Rumors & conjecture shouldn't be enough & that is all the voters have on Piazza & Biggio. The Holier than Thou routine is ridiculous. These guys take themselves way too serious & they think they are some kind of safekeepers for the prestige of Cooperstown. The truth is that they are doing more damage to the Hall of Fame than they are helping it. When you give a single group absolute power without a check on that power, more times than not that group will abuse said power & that is what the BBWAA are doing, they are abusing their power to vote. As such, I have proposed a change to the voting process & I have yet to see a flaw in it.

The first step is establishing a "Hall of Fame Election Committee." There are 4 entities that have an interest in players who get elected into the Hall & they are: (1) BBWAA; (2) Current Hall of Famers; (3) MLB - executives & owners; and (4) MLBPA. Each of those entities should select 20-30 members to serve on the committee. The second step is to change the voting threshold for selection. The minimum vote to stay on the ballot should remain at 5%. However, the percentage for selection should be changed to a two-thirds, super-majority (66%). By making the induction threshold 66%, it would assure that no single entity could conspire as a group to keep out any single player for bogus reasons. For example, if the BBWAA wants to keep out Biggio & Piazza for rumors & conjecture, that is only 25% of the vote, leaving 75% available. The final step is to change the maximum number of votes from 10 to 5. By doing that, voters will be forced to vote for the best players, the players worthy of induction, instead of voting for players to just keep them on future ballots. There also wouldn't be stupid votes like the ones for JT Snow & Hideo Nomo that were on this year's tally. It would also assure that when there is a player worthy of 100% of the vote, like Greg Maddox this year, he will get it. Now, I know it isn't perfect, but it is definitely a step in the right direction. The BBWAA have abused their voting power & they should have that absolute power taken from them.

sell
sell

"I could never cast a vote for Greg Maddux."

Way to continue your blind, immature act of hiding behind the admission of being a "fan."  This might be a less intelligent thing to say than, "Matt Harvey will never win a Cy Young."  Because you're a fan, you wouldn't put into the HoF the greatest pitcher of the last 20 years?  The guy did his job with grace, humility, and brilliance.  I suppose you wouldn't vote for Chipper Jones, either, right?

jose_who
jose_who

Serious question here. Has anyone actually presented even a shred of evidence that Piazza was juicing? I've heard ridiculous speculation and absurd claims but nothing real. One guy said he heard he had back acne, so that means he juiced. Really? I have breakouts on my back from time to time, I have never juiced at all...

Frank D
Frank D

Here's my main issue with the Hall of Fame voters:  They are insistent on keeping out "cheaters" and holding sacred the sanctity of the game.  But the issue is in their a la carte view of cheating.

There are several admitted spitballers in the HOF.  Gaylord Perry is the most prominent one.  Hank Greenberg used to have scouts sit in centerfield and steal signs.  Depending on your view, George Brett cheated.  Does it come down to character?  Because why is Ty Cobb, an avid racist, in the Hall?


Yet you have guys like Shoeless Joe Jackson (who hit .375 and led the team in RBIs in the 1919 World Series) out.  Pete Rose (despite only cheating after his playing days were over) is out.  Every single player that's been whispered near steroids are held out.  So what's the difference? 


But here's my view.  Baseball is a story of eras.  Stats from each era vary greatly.  Homeruns from the last 20 years are just like batting averages from the early years.  You cannot possibly compare players from different times.  


So if everyone in the last era could have been connected with steroids, why not just assume that the playing field was level.  Then base it off of who was the most dominant in the most dominant era.  So that means to be a HOF from the last generation, you'd have to be absolutely dominant.  Maybe Bagwell doesn't get in, not based off of steroids, but because there were at least 6 other people that come to mind before him in that era.   


Joe Jackson never had a chance because he was part of the biggest scandal in baseball history.  Pete Rose doesn't have a chance because he didn't shut his mouth.  But we can still give the newer players a chance to have a legacy for the people my age (24) to look back.  Because it's seeming more and more that all of the players I grew up with will be forgotten through time. 


And that makes me very sad.  



Robert W. Herr
Robert W. Herr

Piazza deserves to be in the HOF. This is an injustice.

nc95
nc95

Congrats to Glavine well deserved .. Such a class act.

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

Next year Pedro and Randy Johnson will get in and Smoltz is a possibility, u figure Biggio gets in, Piazza probably gets about 70% and falls short again. Sheffield also on list, another PED user.

TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

Let's put Tom "I blew loads in my last Mets game" Glavine in the hall with a Mets hat just to piss everyone off. 

TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

Don't let Piazza and Biggio in but let FRANK THOMAS in? How the hell does that make sense? Hard not to think that Thomas didn't use any PEDs or anything other than what Piazza or Biggio might have.

Jeff Ordon
Jeff Ordon

I live within an hour of Cooperstown and I'm not visiting and spending money there until Piazza gets in.

The problem with the voting is too many old Farts with old ideas... Proof of the pudding is Piazza went from 68 down to 62 percent once the old fart vote was counted. Not having the all time hits leader and best hitting catcher in MLB history in the hall is a travesty

Michael Marinelli
Michael Marinelli

While I don't think that Greg Maddux received enough votes (how did anyone not vote for him), I think Glavine received entirely too many votes. I like Matt do not respect the voting process. Piazza should have been in first ballot. He's being punished for other people's crimes.

dreamer3kx
dreamer3kx

@Robert Marcoux Theres speculation that Piazza did steroids and NOT Thomas??!! The dude looked like a WWE wrestler, best hitting catcher still not in HOF is a fracking joke, joke. I can understand the steroid guys not getting in but not the players who are "rumored" to, rumored by who, anyone can say something and thats a rumor.

mystere24
mystere24

If draft round mattered, Billy Beane would have been a HOFer too. Did anyone look at Piazza's minor league stats? They were good. Did anyone notice that Piazza hit his 162 Game Average in his rookie of the year freshman campaign?

Olerud42
Olerud42

@Frank D The false premise you assume is that all cheating is equally bad. 

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

Class act? Why don't u watch his interview in 07 after he tanked it for the Mets in that last game. No class whatsoever

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

Actually last year he got 58% and improved to 62% this year

Luis Torres Quiñones
Luis Torres Quiñones

@Jeff Ordon This just in: the hall is having an emergency revote to avoid the catastrophe of you not visiting the museum. Hopefully this time Piazza gets in and the disaster is averted!

John Mills
John Mills

@Michael MarinelliCompletely agree with on Maddux and Glavine.  Maddux got a lower percentage of the vote than Tom Seaver, whom I idolized as a child.  Seriously?  Maddux wasn't as good as Seaver?  As much pain as the guy caused me, he still deserved as many votes as Seaver.

wooferson
wooferson

@Shawn M. Milburn I believe you're taking his remarks totally out of context...Glavine didn't tank...he didn't have it in the tank that day. Those are the breaks. Even great pitchers have off days. If you believe he "took a dive" on an important game, OR gave less than his best--you don't have the foggiest idea who the guy was/is.He was asked a dumb post game question along the lines of, "are you disappointed by your performance today?" and he answered, something like, "yes, but it's not the end of the world, life goes on." To say or suggest that Glavine was not a competitor every time he stepped on the mound reveals your own ignorance. Go back to the tape

for a reconsideration. He didn't let YOU down, personally. This is the same kind of ignorance that accuses Beltran of looking helplessly at Wainright's third strike. Them's the breaks, kiddo.


crafalko17
crafalko17

@Luis Torres Quiñones @Michael Marinelli 

Piazza was actually a very good fielding catcher. He just struggled throwing runners out, but as far as blocking and receiving pitches he was very solid. That is a common misconception about Piazza.

Luis Torres Quiñones
Luis Torres Quiñones

@TurkWendell4Life @Luis Torres Quiñones Frank Thomas was a bit of a whistleblower back in the 90's regarding PEDs. He was also the only player who publicly spoke about steroids to accept an interview by Congress during the Mitchell report. He was always a huge dude, google his rookie card featuring him in his Auburn uniform. Maybe he's the biggest cheat of them all, and decided the only way to hide it was to rat on everyone else.

Troy Hueschen
Troy Hueschen

How many times did you fall out of your crib when you were a child? The more you post, the more you make it clear that you are an uneducated moron!