Game Recap: Mets 6 – Phillies 1

Jon Niese pitched a gem during a rainy night at Citizen Bank Park to help the Mets (15-11) defeat the Philadelphia Phillies (13-13) by a score of 6-1 Tuesday evening. >> Read the full recap and box score at SNY.tv.



Need to Know: After waiting through a nearly 90-minute game delay, Niese gave up just one run on four hits, one walk and five strikeouts over seven innings of action. The left-hander also helped himself at the plate as he walked in a run during the fourth inning.

Daniel Murphy went 3-for-5 on the night with a run and an RBI to extend his hitting streak to 10 games.

Niese did not give up a hit until the bottom of the fourth when Marlon Byrd sent a shot deep into left field for the Phillies only run of the night.

Ruben Tejada brought in two runs during the top of the fifth inning after he hit a soft line drive to center.

The Mets are four games over .500 for first time since July 14, 2012.


What’s Next: The Mets will continue their series against the Phillies at Citizen Bank Park on Wednesday when they send Bartolo Colon (2-3, 4.50 ERA) to the mound against Kyle Kendrick (0-2, 3.52 ERA) at 7:05 p.m.




89 comments
zingzangzo
zingzangzo

We should make a trade for Encarnacion on the Blue Jays. He could bring the power to Citi Field we sure could use for a couple of years. With one of those years being an option year. We have a team to make it to the second round of playoffs now.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

So far so good, the pitching is holding up and Terry isn't putting down any of his players!!!!!! Lets Go Mets!!!

grandpamet
grandpamet

When do the "The Mets are XX games over 500 for the first time since XX/XX/XXXX" references stop 

pessi_mets
pessi_mets

If the Mets are losing, people are saying "we have to sign so and so, the Wilpons suck, Sandy sucks, etc etc."


Now that the Mets are winning this April people are saying the same thing,"sign so and so, if the Wilpons can open their wallet our record would be 19-7". Just stop, their focus is pitching and defense, just like the 10' Giants, and so far, in April - it's working. 


Wait for this team to fail  before you start to complain again. An outsider reading some of these comments wouldn't think they were reading a post written by a Met fan. 

qualcomm
qualcomm

I don't know about the rest of you, but i'll buy into this (as in spend money at Citi) if they promise to supplement this group with proper outside talent if it continues to win.

Really, if Fred himself comes out and guarantees on his ownership that he will not penny pinch in July, them I'll be on board.  If he's going to let them die like every other year they start well, what's the point of kicking Lucy's football?

if the team is still like this in July, I want a PROMISE that the Nats and Braves throats will be firmly stepped on. I want Fred to pay for the four hitter and closer in July.  If they're not available, so be it, but unlike the Cano embarrassment, i want him to promise on his ownership that he'll do whatever can be done outside of the irresponsible (no trading Thor for a 38 year old etc.)

Until then, I'll enjoy this unusual stretch from home, podcast and talk to my twenty five fellow Met fans online.   if they want my money, do the right thing and finish the team.


Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

A win is very good. a win vs the Phils is better. A well pitched game by Jon is great. A well pitched game against Cole Hamels is extra special. It may have been dreary to some , but it was sunny in Philadelphia for me

Stephen Giangrande
Stephen Giangrande

If only EyJr played SS this team would be amazing. I'm a big fan of us needing EY in there every day. He is second in the lead in Runs and Stolen Bases, two things this team really needs. But Lagares in the OF daily is a must because he's a phenomenal defensive talent and if he can hit like he was before, he'd be fantastic.

Doubleday
Doubleday

Wilmer Flores made his first start of the year not at SS, tonight.  Playing 1B, Flores went 2-5 with a double and 2 RBI.  Juan Lagares had a pinch hit double.  Rafael Montero took the loss.

David Vargas
David Vargas

I see that Marlon Byrd continues to be the word

JD Agyemang
JD Agyemang

If there is any change the mets need to make, is to sit EY down and play Lagares. EY Ks too often. Yes hes been good here and there but you have to play your best players and before Lagares Injury he was the best player on the team.

JD Agyemang
JD Agyemang

who is this Bob Giancalone person. If you having a bad night, get out of here with your pessimistic mindset. the team is 15-11. damn

nymess
nymess

the best part about this 15-11 start is that it was done without everything going right. Parnell and Young went down after game 1, they lost Lagares who had been their best offensive and defensive player, the bullpen has had its poor spells, and the offense has been statistically pretty poor...thankfully the hitting has been timely and has put runs on the board, which is all that matters offensively.


still, it's not like a perfect storm of unlikely, unsustainable scenarios that has lead this team to a really good start...and that is most definitely reason for optimism. 

Michael Mancino
Michael Mancino

And, of course, pitching wins games as does defense. We have both. A Gold Glover coming off the DL tomorrow, solid everywhere else. Yes, that includes number 28. He might not be Doug Flynn, but solid and a hard worker.

Eric Raffle
Eric Raffle

A composite of "over optimism" on the Pitching projections/futures....  includes Matt Harvery coming back immediately and as good as ever..... Syndergaard arriving as "Koosman" to Harvey's "Seaver....  Montero arriving as "Matlack".....  That's one guy who just got his arm out of a Sling and two who haven't pitched a Major League Inning!!!!! 

Further,  take a look around and tell me whether you think there's any way possible that the "Syndergaard, Gee, Montero, Niese, Harvey, Mejia" group is going to be physically perfect going forward.  Have you seen the DL's throughout baseball?...Filled with UCL's---"Tommy Johns" !!!  You have 2 guys under 25 on your own staff--Mejia and Harvey--- at various stages of recovery. Sorry to add,  but you have one or two on their way to a major arm injury----that's just a statistical reality!

The idea that you're just happily trading "surplus"..... the projection of "your top three" as "Glavin, Maddux, Smolz".... PERFECTION is a ridiculous assumption.


Pitching Depth is a Concept...Never a Reality!!!!  


Michael Mancino
Michael Mancino

Nice win boys. To all the negative nellies out there, here's the plan. Wake up tomorrow, get the paper and see that we are 15-11. Stop dwelling on Drew, why we drafted Nimmo over Jose etc. and realize that the front office knows way more than you and me about running a baseball team and take one game at a time. Our goal should be .500. With a few breaks, maybe more.

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

The plan is build the farm system while our awful owners get out of debt...not to waste money on garbage like morales and drew because some idiots equate spending with winning. Grandy and colon could both be gone by end of year, and we still could compete and gain prospects. Grandy would be tough sell, but his contract really isn't bad plus he's great clubhouse guy.

Sandy gets a lot of flack on here, but he has robbed four straight teams with trades.

If you don't see the plan, you either are blind or don't know baseball.

ken1010
ken1010

@pessi_mets  The Mets starting pitching is carrying this team, and that's great.

Gee, Neise, Colon, are solid, and Mejia and Wheeler are growing, handling the middle innings better all the time.  They are all progressing, and perhaps even Warthan deserves some credit.

But that doesn't change the fact that the Mets, like all teams, have weaknesses.  The Mets' weaknesses are pretty clear, and a good fan would want those addressed. 

There is nothing wrong with people wanting the team to improve, and "complaining" if opportunities to do so are missed, and suggesting signings and other things that Sandy and the Wilpons should make that happen.

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

You don't pay top dollar for stats already accrued by a player past their prime. Cano contract one of worst in baseball.

If we could get a tulo, Stanton, cargo...trade whoever to get them. But no need to waste money just to say we spent money.

Only attractive fa next year is asdrubal Cabrera, maybe butler if Duda tanks.

Only way we get star player is trade, which is the one thing we seem to do extremely well.

Cordell C
Cordell C

This team stugles to string hits together and score runs ey gives us the ability to score runs w/o a hit can't sit him down he gives us the opportunity to manufacture runs

Eileen Yiu
Eileen Yiu

@Eric Raffle  well then lucky we have Matz, DeGrom, Ynoa, Fuller and Tapia behind those pitchers

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Michael Mancino It's not about them knowing more, it's about them not having enough money to run a championship baseball team. 

The fact that the front office is able to build anything at all is a testament to how bad other front offices are and how far a brain can take you in life.  Imagine if they had resources to work with.

Max Denby
Max Denby

I'm happy about the start, but 15-11 is nothing to get too fired up about. If the mets make the playoffs, you can toot this terrible front offices horn.

Baseball is an extremely long season. Chill.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Chris O'Neill  Chris, you're missing something; the plan is done and we are/ should be in maintenance mode.

Eventually it's 1984 and the plan becomes bringing in veterans to teach/ supplement while continually building the system.

Here's the thing about payroll... you don't get the 80's Mets without Hernandez & Carter.  Your don't get the 2000 Mets without Piazza, Hampton, Leiter.  You don't get even then one hit wonder 2006 Mets without Pedro, Delgado & Beltran.  Outside of the Rays, NO team has been successful without quality free agent supplements.  The Braves, Cards etc.. take a good look at the rosters.

If you don't spend on good mid-prime talent, you don't win championships.  I dare you to show me more than an example or two to counter that point since 1976.

Max Denby
Max Denby

Trading top level major league talent will net you prospects. it's not hard to trade Carlos Beltran and Dickey for unproven kids. Sandy is a poor GM. Keep in mind Harvey and Mejia are Omar guys. Any GM can trade assets and lose and eventually win.

eavdr10
eavdr10

I don't think trading Grandy is part of the plan. Get your glasses on and look a bit closer

pessi_mets
pessi_mets

@ken1010 @pessi_mets  Their weakness so far is that their lineup isn't producing. That is not going to continue for an entire season. They are however, scoring runs when they have to and they are finding ways to win. The lineup can only get better from where they are now.


Duda is not a weakness so there is no need for a 1B right now, and Tejada is doing what is asked of him. He's making the basic plays - the plays he did not make last year. If the rest of the lineup was doing what they should be doing, then Tejada wouldn't be a concern at all. Giving Drew $14 million would be an awful decision. What other decision have they "missed out" on for SS? Peralta - not a great start, Furcal - DL. 


Come the All Star Break, we will see true numbers from CY, EY, and Duda. If the Mets are still contending by then, and a move isn't made if one of those three are struggling and a big bat is available - then yes, complain all you want. However, nobody is trading an impact player in April, so what would you like them to do? They're winning, that's all that matters. Like you said yourself, every team has a weakness.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@James D Kimberlin James.. of course!  Who said we should trade Thor?  i was using that as an example...  there's no reason any team should trade that sort of guy unless they're getting a Hall Of Fame caliber back.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Chris O'Neill Chris, Cano is not past his prime first of all.  And trades... well the only way you get stars in trades is because they're expensive.

Let me know your thoughts...
How do you feel about DWright's contract? 

If this were 1983 and you were GM... would you trade your closer and a solid starter for a "last of his prime" former star first basemen?

If this were 1985, would you
trade a hard hitting young infielder that just moved to shortstop for an all star catcher on his last legs?

if this were 1999, would you trade for high payroll Piazza and just dump our inexpensive young power hitting catcher?

Just curious...

JD Agyemang
JD Agyemang

@Cordell C  so you will rather have Lagares on the bench? because there is no way you gonna bench a 60mil dollar man, and CY is playing well.

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

I agree...but there is nobody to sign!! Drew? There's a reason nobody else has signed him either. Morales? He's a DH.

I agree we have worst owners this side of Sterling, and our payroll should be much higher...but I don't see anybody to spend money on.

That cano contract is awful. 10 years for a 30 year old is beyond ridiculous.

Obviously, our owners cheating people out of money with Madoff and then having to pay the victims back 50 cents on the dollar they stole impacted not going after Abreu, but he's the only guy we missed out on this year.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Max Denby C'mon man...Omar never swindled a team.  Usually it was us getting bagged.

dannym28
dannym28

@Max Denby  3 months of beltran, go ask sabean if he wants to try again. Also keep in mind we were expected to get JP arancebia and anthony gose. instead we got their two best prospects. go home bud

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

Me either, but could happen if necessary. My point was about the plan...which includes not signing awful contracts we can't get rid of to appease a fan base.

pessi_mets
pessi_mets

@ken1010  and the Mets are averaging more runs per game than; The Reds, Dodgers, Pirates, Braves, and Cardinals. So something is working. They're putting that stat up for a month with a struggling lineup.

pessi_mets
pessi_mets

@ken1010  I agree with you about eventually trading a pitcher for a bat, and I think they will eventually do that. All I'm saying is, they're winning now, so give these decisions some time.


I wanted Choo as well, and yes he will in all probability finish with better numbers than CY. CY though, has played nicely for the Mets so far. He just needs consistent playing time, and he should be able to hit 20-25 HR's, which is what they need and expect from him. 


So I think, by the ASB, someone will not be producing in the way they want him to, and that is when a trade will be made. In a perfect world CY, EY, and Duda will be producing just like the Mets want them to, but we know that's most likely not going to happen. So, if the deadline comes and goes with one of them not carrying their weight, and the Mets contending, and a move isn't made, then we all have a real gripe to make. 


Now, we just don't. Of course we want them to improve, a team should always be improving, and they have been improving. Since June of last year they're 64-58, that's an improvement. We can agree to disagree, in the end we're all Mets fans and just want them to win, which they're doing right now. 

ken1010
ken1010

@pessi_mets  Choo would have been a better signing that CY.  They really needed a leadoff hitter with high on-base pct, and Choo was linked to the Mets prior to last offseason as the perfect fit.  If the payroll was where it should be, they could have afforded Choo.

They also could be taking chances in the international market, as they could have with Jose Abreu.  They could trade one of their starters for a shortstop with far better potential than Tejada.  

This team is nowhere near the 2006, 2000, or 1988/1986 team in terms of offensive production.  And those teams had decent pitching too.  I hope to see them get back there.


P.S.  And they probably should have traded Wheeler for Will Meyers last year when they could have.  Meyers was rookie of the year, and appears perhaps as good a hitter as Wright.  Wheeler will be great too, but they have the depth to replace him.  

Sandy is very cautious in his trades, only pulling the trigger when its vastly in his favor.  An even-up pitcher for hitter trade is not what he appears to do, and we should take those chances.

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

Why doesn't sandy trade degrom and niese for trout!!! We need offense!! And give Toronto Thor to get Jose back!! Then sign drew to play second and trade murphy to get krod back, who we should have signed this offseason!!!

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

How do any of those examples parallel cano's terrible deal? You think the Pujols deal was a great idea, too?

We needed to keep wright, like yanks needed to keep jeter, orioles Ripken, braves chipper, etc.

Hernandez and carter trades weren't for 10 year contracts of $20 mil per until age 40+...and piazza was a no brainer.

Like I said, if trade anybody in our system for cargo, tulo or Stanton.

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

Can't argue that...we'd be best team in baseball with those guys. But our owners aren't allowed to spend. Wish they were racists and not just swindlers and thieves.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Chris O'Neill Drew is a poster child for terrible signings.. no way I want him.  I actually want Flores, the cheapest of them all. 

Morales i'd rather have than Duda because neither is a good fielder and Morales is a better hitter.  Duda is a better value, but i want to win and we're at 80 million, so why do we need to keep the downgraded bat?

Yes, 10 years for Cano is pretty crazy, but bad teams need to do crazy things to improve.  For six years, we'd have an amazing all star second baseman and really, he'd probably give you another two at another position afterward because he's a good athlete.  I think for us, coupled with what it would have done to the Yankee brand to win with their best player (it's all about dollars after all)... I would have done it.  

Cano & Abreu would have meant a division title possibly and you could have had them both, kept all the pitching AND still been under 110 million.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Chris O'Neill Why though? we're at 80 million and championships are the point right?  Why would a world championship team worry about being at 110 million (with Cano) and having two pitchers require a salary?

Also, David Wright will be one too in a few years... you can't make every call based on contracts being bad years down the road.  Everyone gets old and if you don't pay for a bit of the sour, you don't get the sugar.

Chris O'Neill
Chris O'Neill

In 3-4 years, that cano contract will be an albatross. Maybe your right, it may have won us a championship next year or 2016. Big if though. Could also have stopped us from resigning Harvey, wheeler, Thor, etc. in the future.

qualcomm
qualcomm

I agree on Drew (maybe not Morales), but the payroll argument and bad signings are different arguments.  

The team wants us to blur them, but one has nothing to do with the other.   You can have a high payroll and not sign players who aren't worth it.  You can have a high payroll and STILL rip off the Jays and get Thor.

We have an 80 million dollar payroll in NYC.  We should have a 130 million dollar payroll unless the owners have EARNED an 80 million dollar break by getting so many prospects that we just don't have room for expensive players.  Wake me when that happens :)

Shouldn't Cano be playing 2B for us?   Don't say he's too old for the plan because we just signed Wright and it's a waste of money if he's not complemented. It's also money well spent under "the plan" because we didn't hurt the farm system.  Cano this year and
Hanley Ramirez next year would have completed this team.

To me it's all about moments. The right player comes up and you either pounce or you don't.  if you don't act, you don't get the girl.