Game Recap: Mets 3 – Brewers 2

Result: The Mets rallied from behind to beat the Brewers, 3-2, Friday night in Milwaukee.


Need to Know: The Mets were rendered scoreless by the Brewers before exploding for three runs in the ninth. Daniel Murphy had a three-hit night, including a double to lead off the final frame. David Wright‘s single drove in Murphy and Lucas Duda cranked a two-run shot to put the Mets in front. Zack Wheeler had a terrific start, allowing just one hit prior to the seventh. Wheeler struck out nine and gave up only three hits over 6 2/3 innings. One of the two runs scored off Wheeler was unearned. Jenrry Mejia struck out the side to record his 14th save of the year.


Game Ball: Wheeler pitched well but Duda’s go-ahead home run makes the first baseman Friday’s hero.


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What’s Next: Jonathon Niese (5-5, 3.13 ERA) takes the mound for the Mets on Saturday night. He’ll go up against the Brewers’ Wily Peralta (11-6, 3.58). First pitch is scheduled for 7:10 p.m.




182 comments
Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Nice to see K-Rod pull an Armando against his former team. I may finally be coming around to the conclusion that Daniel Murphy, despite every best intention and effort, just cannot field. Plus his baseball smarts are virtually non-existent. Maybe the guy would be best served in a DH role. Grandy-man back in early-season form. Are we really gonna be looking at 25 HRs, 150 K's and a .220 BA for the next three seasons? If so, the signing was a bust. And can we FINALLY part ways wit Bobby Abreu. Is he here because he was

cheap or because he's supposed to bring something to the table? Right now he's an automatic our with no range in LF.  Plus he is a dismal pinch-hitter. Another dismal Sandy signing.

metsfan7
metsfan7

Hmm.....did anyone happen to see what Nieuwenhuis did in his first game back with the 51's? 3 for 5 including a 3-run home run. And what did we get from Bobby Abreu ?   0 for 4  with 4 strikeouts. Way to go TC !  You really know how to pick em!

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

Lets have a 5 game winning streak right here.

thwacker
thwacker

What about Grandy?  Has he had a hit in his last 4 or 5 games?  We have him for 3 more years.

MildredMets
MildredMets

...i was just sitting around with the game on in the background...all of a sudden...WTF!!!!....it was nice to be shocked in a good way for once...

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Last night's game was a surprise win but it's a shame Wheeler did not get the win. He pitched another great game. Also, congrats to Duda for his game leading HR.

thefranchise41
thefranchise41

Can we get Eric Young,Jr. back leading off and Lagares in the 2 hole? The Chris Young deal can officially be declared a disaster. Grandy is back to his earlier form and shouldn't lead off.

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

If Duda can hit .260 with 30 HR I'm very happy with that. Could you get a better first baseman in the off-season? Sure, but you won't improve by that much. Priority needs to be shortstop and power-hitting outfielder. There really aren't that many holes to fill. 

Metsopotamia
Metsopotamia

I posted on here about Duda when I thought he couldn't do it, so its only fair, I eat some crow here and admit I was wrong. At the time I would have kept Davis instead, and lets just say I am glad I am not the GM of our beloved Mets. Duda may not be the best 1B in the league but he is on pace for 30 HR's and 90+ RBI and that is all I can ask for, so once again I was very wrong, and gladly cause I would much rather be wrong and players do much better than I think they will cause that means they are producing and helping the Mets win and in the end that is all I care about

nym68
nym68

When reading stuff on here I often find myself shaking my head in disbelief. How can so many people with one thing in common actually be this delusional? One guy on here had it all figured out, except that he had no idea what he's talking about. He's got Nimmo lined up and ready, Parnell and Black pitching middle innings, and best of all, not seeing a need to trade anybody worth anything because everything is already set in place. News flash...Nimmo is still relatively new to organized baseball. Black hasn't shown much and Parnell is not only injured...again, but will probably ask to be traded because he's no longer the closer.

Another guy thinks we need to go all in on Stanton. He even posted our future lineup and rotation once Stanton is on the team, but forgot to subtract the pieces needed to acquire the best player on a divisional opponent. Is Miami just going to hand him over because we're the Mets?

Let's see, what else? Oh yeah, I've read how the Dodgers will trade us Joc Perderson for either Noah or Murphy (neither EVER will EVER happen), Castro is the answer at SS even though the last thing this team needs is a selfish, lackadaisical, swing happy idiot who is already owed $60m.

If, I mean when, we sign that Cuban kid to play SS or CF he'll be the best leadoff hitter we've had since Reyes all because of a three minute video. Nevermind that no one has actually seen him play yet due to his audition not yet taking place.

Then there's my favorite. The Terry Collins cost us seven games a year "fact". This was stated as if it came with statistical proof. How is this "fact" measured exactly? Is there a website that analyzes every managerial decision during every game of every season since the invention of baseball that most of us are unaware of by chance? Can I just click it or do I have to get my parents permission to view such obscenity and horror? 

Basically all I'm saying is.....Get a grip people! Do a little research on other teams every once in a woke. Watch a minor league game on occasion. Or perhaps apply for a low level entry positron with the Mets and learn how the sport works before you show off your player development and scouting skills. Better yet, if you read this in its entirety, get a life and a job!

Richard Davis
Richard Davis

Here is my thought: we will probably have the most enviable starting rotation next year with a healthy Harvey, Wheeler, DeGrom, Niese and perhaps Syndegaard.  Our bullpen will be pretty awesome too with Black and Parnell handling the 6th (if necessary) and the 7th while Familia and Meija finish off games.  We'd still have Hefner and Montero to fall back on in case of injury.  Also, if Duda's progression to acceptable continues, he could be a 30 home run guy.  Also, if D'arnaud continues to progress and hits between .280 and .300, that position would be set.  With dependable offense from Wright and Murphy, we'd really only need more offense from LF and SS.  I still say if given a prolonged starting gig, Flores could suffice at SS in the short-term (until Murphy is moved and he is shifted there).  Lack of range never seemed to bother Jeter and the teams he was on.  Which only leaves LF.  Nimmo will replace Granderson eventually so that's a no-go.  So, a marginal upgrade in LF could go a very long way.  We have Colon and Gee to deal along with Plawecki and some other pieces so acquiring an upgrade for LF without mortgaging our future should be possible.


The position most needed to change is manger.  If Collins can be held responsible for losing 4 games so far, that would lend toward at least 7 over the course of the season.  If the Mets wind up 80-82, that would mean a more competent skipper could bring them to 87-75 which is pretty damn close to the second WC spot.  All of this while nobody on the team is having a career year; pitching or hitting.  A skipper like what Valentine did in 2000 or what Bochy, Gonzalez and Scioscia seem to do now, which is get more out of they players would be the tipping point I feel.  While I think Backman could be that manager, I do say that is a certainty.  What is certain is that the team will go nowhere with Collins as the skipper.  And even getting a Stanton, Tulo or Cargo will not change that.

fredo
fredo

Sorry didn't see 1Metfan mention Cabrera. Great minds, haha!

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@metsfan7 Seems obvious that TC is being forced to play Abreu and CY. And you know where that is coming from.

zoddie
zoddie

Uhh, I don't think Terry is allowed to play guys not on his team. It is against the rules and stuff. Or are you saying you are not aware that Terry has a boss?

zoddie
zoddie

@nymetsrule I vote for this.  Do I get a vote?  If so, I vote yes.

nymetsrule
nymetsrule

@thwacker Granderson has always been the kind of player who does this. He has streaks like non-other.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@Brandon Lee  I've been a DUD basher on this forum for quite sometime, but he is starting to convince me that I was wrong about him, and though he won't hit 300, hitting 25-30 homers with a 260 average is more than adequate...so the DUD is now becoming the SPARK!

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@Metsopotamia  with you on this...I've been a DUD basher for quite sometime...if he keeps this up then I will also join you in eating crow.

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

I am with you on this. I just didn't think he was as good as Ike or could put up numbers. Not to knock Hudgens, but Lamar has him hitting to all fields and it is concieveable he could hit against lefties.

He is a quiet, unassuming guy and it is nice to see him deliver

dminches
dminches

@nym68 This type of logic has no place on Metsblog.


I do love how people explain a different strategy they would have used and never think about the fact that it may not have worked either.  Clearly there is no way to prove that the alternative strategy was either successful or not.


I was thinking last night that if Collins didn't play TDA after hitting a home run the night before, like the Brewers did with Lucroy, they would have been calling for his head.


Good post.

nncyel
nncyel

@nym68 Every one who signs up for this blog should be forced to read your little diatribe. Will it help? Probably not. This blog, unfortunately, is a place for a lot of pissed off people to vent their frustrations. Why they get frustrated over something that is completely out of their control, and why they would get frustrated over something that is just supposed to be entertainment in the first place is hard for me to understand. Why tie your feelings of self-worth to the success or failure of a sports team? Beats me. 

nym68
nym68

@Richard Davis I'm confused. Is Flores playing SS while Murphy is on the team or both SS abd 2B after you have Murphy jettisoned even though you said he was dependable?

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@Richard Davis  great analysis...one piece is basically all we need, the pitching and bullpen are in place.  FLORES can do an adequate job at SS...I agree that all we need is that one OF'er to really compete in this division.

dminches
dminches

@Richard Davis How exactly did you calculate how many games Collins has cost us?  How is that even possible?  Also, do you follow every other team as closely to show that their managers don't cost them the same amount of games?  What about dealing with he players?  How have you entered that into your assessment?  Are you in the clubhouse witnessing how the manager works with the players?



stemog
stemog

@Richard Davis Remember Conforto is on the fast track. He'll be up to play outfield by the end of 2015 or to start 2016.

Peter Loibl
Peter Loibl

One of the best posts I have read on this site in some time ... Bravo!

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

TC is not a good manager but he does not cost them 7 games a year. You also make it sound like other managers don't make poor decisions. I do agree with you on the makeup of the team. However, I don't see colon or gee bringing much back in a trade. Gee is too injury prone.

zoddie
zoddie

@Richard Davis  The Mets went to the playoffs with Willie friggin Randolph as the manager.  Terry's no Bobby V, but he's a heck of a lot better than Willie.


And Nimmo is already in AA.  He and Granderson will more than likely be teammates in 2016.

1metfan
1metfan

@fredo It's not like I am the first to think of it, I am sure someone must of mentioned it before.

triviaace
triviaace

@Kenneth Meltsner @metsfan7 That's because TC is SA's puppet.  As long as SA is in charge the Mets will never have a free thinking manager.

zoddie
zoddie

@Richard Alicea @Brandon Lee  And like I've been saying for over a year, any long long at his stats while playing at 1b instead of the OF and not having to face LHP would have predicted this production.


Career vs RHP - .261/.362/.480

Career at 1b - .265/.369/.468

Lucas Duda in 2014 - .260/.359/.497

Look familiar?  A bit more power, but Lucas Duda is pretty much exactly the same guy he always has been when either being platooned or playing 1b.  In this case, he's been able to do both and the numbers are as expected.

nym68
nym68

@dminches @nym68 I agree. My kind of logic has no place on a post filled with the most absurd and illogical thoughts this side of Putin. I'm just glad a few people such as yourself get it. Otherwise I'm positive that the rest of the sports world would be justified in calling Mets fans the dumbest fans on the intrawebernet

dminches
dminches

@nncyel @nym68 Agreed.  And I wonder if most the people actually just enjoy the game?  I think the Mets bring most of these people more angst than enjoyment.

ken1010
ken1010

@dminches @Richard Davis

Collins clearly cost us a few games games when he sent Valverde and Farnsworth in to close.  Perhaps that's on Alderson, rather than Collins, but those moves were just asking for trouble.  Collins seems to prefer wash up experience to more raw talent.

zoddie
zoddie

@stemog @Richard Davis  That's a big leap of faith.  I mean, I hope it happens, but that is asking him to jump five levels in a little over a year.


He's in A- ball right now.  Maybe the Mets promote him to A ball in a month to finish the year.  So it would be:

2014 A- for one month

2014 A for one month

2015 A+ first half

2015 AA second half

2015 MLB September call up (skipping AAA?)

2016 AAA

2016 MLB after super-2 cutoff?


That's pretty aggressive.  It'll depend how he hits.  He's got 7 games as a professional :)

zoddie
zoddie

@hubie_wc  I think Gee would bring something back.  Teams are desperate for pitching.

ken1010
ken1010

@zoddie @Richard Davis

Randolph focused on the fundamentals.  That's one place where Collins and his staff don't seem to be getting it done.  Randolph had different weaknesses.

fredo
fredo

I am sure you are right. I just think it's the right way to go. You see what the Giants and Red Sox and A's have done. They mix and match with plus MLers but not stars and then build on their strengths. Playing in CitiField the key is pitching which the mets clearly have. Mixing and matching w Cabrera and Hardy plus what they have will be a very big upgrade.

zoddie
zoddie

@ken1010 It depends on the guy.  Terry has sent d'Arnaud out pretty much every day, even though he was batting .180.  He gave more ABs to Kirk instead of Chris Young when they were both here this month.  For all his talk, Lagares is in the lineup almost every day.

ken1010
ken1010

@zoddie @stemog @Richard Davis

How fast did Ike get through the minors.  He was an advanced college hitter drafted in the first round.  Presumably Conforto will move as fast, and be more consistent when he gets here.

zoddie
zoddie

@ken1010  I'm not sure how you quantify fundamentals, but the Mes don't seem fundamentally unsound to me.  They don't give away too many games by clear gaffes, there isn't lack of communication in the field, they seem good on the base paths and often take the extra base and don't get thrown out at the plate, etc.

In short, they are above average in the field, average on the bases, and guys seem to like playing for him.

Randolph played his worst players way too often, did things like bat Wright 7th and 8th in the order for far too long, didn't understand platoons, and was terrible at bullpen management. 

1metfan
1metfan

@fredo Melky I believe is the guy they will target. As far as the SS position goes only time will tell. It sure would be a boost to see the new #2 all star SS as  a Met. That would be a nice for us fans. Don't rule out Cabrera or Lowrie.

zoddie
zoddie

@ken1010 @zoddie @stemog @Richard Davis  Good comp with Ike - didn't think of him.  They are definitely similar draftees (though Conforto was taken higher)


2008 A- Brooklyn

2009 A+ (skipped A)

2009 AA (hit VERY well)

2010 AAA (only a few weeks)

2010 Majors


so Conforto, if he hits as well as Ike in the minors, would be:

2014 A- Brooklyn

2015 A+

2015 AA

2016 AAA (few weeks)

2016 MLB (after super 2?)

zoddie
zoddie

@Richard Alicea @zoddie @stemog @Richard Davis  It is assuming only one month at two levels and skipping AAA before his first call up.  The Mets don't have a history of drafting advanced college hitters, so we really don't have a template of how they'll proceed with Conforto if he hits at all five minor league levels.