Game Recap: Mets 2 – Phillies 1 (11 innings)

Recap: The Mets took the second game of the series from the Phillies in 11 innings, 2-1, on Saturday night.


MLB: New York Mets at Philadelphia Phillies


Need to Know: Lucas Duda’s RBI single with the bases loaded in the top of the 11th inning gave the Mets the victory. Duda scored earlier in the night on a ground ball with the bases loaded in the fifth inning for the Mets’ first run. Phillies third baseman Cody Asche made a diving play on the Wilmer Flores grounder to prevent further damage in the inning. Asche later made another spectacular grab in the ninth to rob Travis d’Arnaud of a possible double down the line. Dillon Gee allowed one run on three hits and three walks over seven innings. Philadelphia’s only run off Gee came on a Carlos Ruiz homer in the seventh to tie the game. David Wright reached base three times with a pair of walks and a single. Curtis Granderson and Juan Lagares each had two hits in the victory. Jeurys Familia recorded the save.


Game Ball: Duda, who contributed to both runs scored for the Mets. Although, he might have to share the ball with Gee for his stellar performance.


Links: Recap | Box score


Up Next: The Mets send Zack Wheeler (7-8, 3.48 ERA) to the mound Sunday afternoon against Philadelphia’s Kyle Kendrick (5-11, 4.74). First pitch will be 1:35 p.m.




81 comments
Chapter 7
Chapter 7

Hopefully Flores is given the same opportunity Tejada was given.

He looked a little clumsy yesterday, and everyone is taking about the 3 outs he failed to make.

But what about his RBI that kept the mets in the game and eventually WIN.

Hopefully he really does get the rest of the year and an evaluation can be made then.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

Now that ABREU and the STIFF (CY) are no more we should begin to see some better coordinated offense from the team...I believe DAVID will soon begin to rake and if the others perform up to their capabilities we should be fine the rest of the way...particularly when we have arguably one of the best starting pitching in the NL.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

FLORES has played well other than the double play throw which bounced and DUDA, not being a good defensive first baseman failed to scoop it up...for those who feel that FLORES is not up to the task, look back on the REYES days and many times he failed to deliver on a good throw to first, but DELGADO and IKE always came through.  FLORES  should continue to start over the double AA bench player TEJADA. 

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

Question----- Of the three pitchers below how would you rank them from most valuable to least valuable if you had to trade one?


Mine: 

Most Valuable to Least: DeGrom, Wheeler, Thor


I'm just curious on what Mets fans think: What is your ranking and comment why.

saxon
saxon

The only problem with Baez is a Hugh hole in his bat...Lots of K's... My response would be he's young and can work on that well the same for Flores and his D... He's young and can work on that...

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

I read all the comments and it is premature to state that Flores stinks or is great at SS. The move should have been made no later than June 30th after Ruben had 3 months( April-June). 


Lets hope Flores gets to the point over the last 2 months and in Winter ball where he is at least AVERAGE at SS and SIGNIFICANTLY better than average BAT. 


If Flores can show above results at minimum he can be part of a package. 

Although I would give CUBS THOR for Baez (but if they refused I'd do Wheeler). Baez is well above average defensively and is expected to be in the top 5 offensive SS in MLB.

Not interested in Castro for my young pitching. I will evaluate Flores and let MATT REYNOLDS develop before giving up pitching.


Today it is HARDER to find a TOP two way SS than a top pitcher--especially one that is at MLB $$$$$$$$$ MINIMUM like Baez.

adenzeno
adenzeno

Flores may not look as good as Tejada, but is a far better hitter- he has made the routine play, last night was robbed twice by the Phillie thirdbaseman and had an RBI...The MEts will be better wi Fkores at SS

saxon
saxon

Nope, same game...We all know Tejada has the better glove...but last year Tejada was not good at SS, basically his second year a .969 fielding % and he has improved this year to .988.... Flores this year is .989 with 1 error in 88 chances and yes both have flubbed some double plays and not charged errors...Tejada's range is better also...

So, if the Mets had a better offensive team which could score some runs, Tejadas lack of production would be acceptable and he would be playing but that is not the case. Flores has produced RBI's in situation that Tejada has failed, hence a look at Flores.

Merrill Needham
Merrill Needham

Did I watch a different game than many of you because Flores looked terrible out there to me. When it comes to ss, it's primarily defense. Offense is a bonus. Tejada is nothing special but Flores is worse. Yes, Flores is a better hitter, but that doesn't matter.

saxon
saxon

Flores now has 4 RBI's in his last 7 games...That's why the Mets have him in there, a producer...that's it

rodd
rodd

WELL!     DUDA HAD 2 HITS OFF LEFTIES INCLUDING THE WINNING RUN SO.......PLAY HIM

Chad Michael
Chad Michael

Sigh of relief...glad to see Gee finally bounce back.  I had faith he would return to himself at one time or another.  Now if only the Mets can get Niese going.  Also glad to see Duda come through in a big spot.  He seems to have cooled off a bit since July but I'd still like to see him have other teams fear him and coming through in a spot like this will do that.

robo
robo

@jimmybx1 murphy will not be let go he will get the most on the open markets is maybe 10 mill per if anyone else pays him close to 15 mill there heads need to be checked if we can afford to bring in tulo with a trade and he has 120 mill left on his current deal why wouldnt they be able to pay murph maybe look for flores to be your starting SS in 2015

steve333
steve333

@jimmybx1

Wright is over-worked. The guy almost never gets a day off and he has no protection in the line-up.

DWright isn't the problem with The Mets

hashburry
hashburry

@jimmybx1 I'm embarrassed to have been raised in the Bronx because of you.

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

@jimmybx1 Jimmy-- If you rank Murphy in the top 10-12 2B's in MLB he would be in the $9 million per year range. Murphy may take a home team discount and go 4 years $30 million ( $7.5) which is basically what CY was being paid this year.  You  couldn't give him a no trade deal. Within 2 years if Herrara continues to develop you then move Murphy when you need $$$ for your young pitching.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/mlb/average/2nd-base/limit-25/



Robinson Cano at 2nd Base $24,000,000 2 Ian Kinsler at 2nd Base $15,000,000 3 Dustin Pedroia at 2nd Base $13,750,000 4 Chase Utley at 2nd Base $13,500,000 5 Brandon Phillips at 2nd Base $12,083,333 6 Aaron Hill at 2nd Base $10,125,000 7 Stephen Drew at 2nd Base, Shortstop $10,093,443 8 Rickie Weeks at 2nd Base $9,625,000 9 Jason Kipnis at 2nd Base $8,750,000 10 Howie Kendrick at 2nd Base $8,375,000 11 Asdrubal Cabrera at 2nd Base, Shortstop $8,250,000 12 Omar Infante at 2nd Base $7,562,500 13 Marco Scutaro at 2nd Base $6,666,667 14 Neil Walker at 2nd Base $5,750,000 15 Daniel Murphy at 2nd Base $5,700,000 16 Mark Ellis at 2nd Base $5,250,000 17 Alberto Callaspo at 2nd Base, Shortstop $4,487,500 18 Gordon Beckham at 2nd Base $4,175,000 19 Rafael Furcal at 2nd Base, Shortstop $3,500,000 20 Maicer Izturis at 2nd Base, 3rd Base $3,333,333




MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

@Richard Alicea . . .Tejada has shown he is a better SS than Flores sans offense, Wilmer will get his chance to show what he can or can not do on the field and with his bat. Good luck Wilmer, make the most of this opportunity.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Comparing Flores with Reyes in the same sentence is mind-numbing.

MetsGoLetsGo
MetsGoLetsGo

@2ndhalffun Not necessarily my perspective, but I think from outside team's perspectives it would go:


1. Wheeler

2. Thor

3. DeGrom


Wheeler was a very highly touted prospect who now seems to be putting everything together and on his way to being a #1.


Thor is also a very highly rated prospect who is projected to be a #1.


DeGrom wasn't a big name, but since coming to the majors has excelled. But its too small of a sample size for other teams to put him above the other two.

nncyel
nncyel

@saxon C, SS and CF are the 3 most important defensive positions on the field and the hardest to play - we all know that. SS is not a position where you want your player to be working on his defense at the major league level. Perhaps you can put up with it if the player is a great offensive player like Starlin Castro. Perhaps Flores can put up Castro-like offensive numbers. If not, he's not a long-term answer at SS.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@2ndhalffun His defense at SS should have been apparent one way or the other in the minors -- are the plays easier there?  He should have been called up sooner for hitting purposes but if the coaches are wary of his defense, they might be right.  Mets probably need to get a better SS though if Flores shows he can hit, he can be part of trade or whatever to get it.

James
James

@adenzeno Flores blew three outs last night, if that keeps up Trouts bat wouldn't make up for that.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@saxon  Dude FLORES is way better offensively than TEJADA and only a tad worse defensively...starting FLORES over TEJADA is a "no brainer" for a manager with a little bit of common sense...FLORES is just fine defensively...all SS have problems on occasions, he's not perfect and will make errors, that's expected.

James
James

@saxon We are a team built on pitching, giving up outs is not how you take advantage of that strength.  Flores has to a lot more than "hit better than Tejada" to be worth it.

upstaphan
upstaphan

I have been a supporter of Flores because Tejada stinks and it is boring watching the team not score any runs, but last night opened my eyes a little. Flores just did not look quick and athletic out there on several of those plays. Maybe he will not make a lot of errors on routine plays, but you can see that his range is limited, his arm is not that strong, throws were off the mark, not great foot work around second base, probably will not make many spectacular plays, etc. After watching Reyes for so many years he was like an acrobat with a cannon out there. Flores seems clumsy by comparison. Maybe he can improve with time, but ultimately I don't think his bat will be enough to overcome his ceiling of play at SS. Maybe if he his .320 with 30 HR but other than that I don't think so. He will definitely hurt you on defense compared to a great defensive SS, no question about that. 

James
James

@saxon He blew THREE OUTS last night, that is much more damaging than 4 RBI in 7 games.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@rodd  his confidence is way high...glad he's finally losing the tag of "DUD", hope this is a sign of better things to come from him.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@Chad Michael  If he hits 260-270, with 25-30 HRS and 80-90 RBIs, he's as good as any other first baseman, we will be set at first until the stud we have in the minors is ready to claim his place.

hankypanky
hankypanky

1. Wheeler

2. deGrom

3. Syndergaard

Putting it simply, Thor never pitched in the majors and doesn't rate comparison.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@nncyel @saxon  I disagree, FLORES can and should be allowed to continue his development a SS at the major league level...he came up as a SS so his learning curve is not that huge like MURPHY...this kid has all the tools of being an offensive threat from the SS position and should develop sufficiently to play the position adequately.  Look at TULO and CASTRO, both are tall lanky short stops who are average, but explosive offensively...my position - keep FLORES at SS and sit the double AA bench player TEJADA.  So far FLORES had done a good job manning that position, stop trying to find holes in his defense, all SS at times will have problems throwing, covering or getting to ground balls, FLORES should not be the exception.  Unfortunately, we have a manager who's in love with TEJADA and won't give FLORES the time needed to fully grasp the position and get his offense going.

2ndhalffun
2ndhalffun

@nncyel @saxon Absolutley-- You have to be strong up the middle.  --Cubs put up with AVERAGE defense from Castro because he has a top 10 ss bat. But even the cubs understand that you are better off with top glove and average bat and therefore they drafted Baez and traded for Addison Russel. 

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@James @adenzeno  The kid is relearning his natural position so his learning curve is not that huge and he should develop into an average SS which is good enough for me if he continues to rake like he's shown in the last couple of games...yesterday's exceptional defense from the Phillies cost him a couple of hits. 

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@James @adenzeno  that was DUDA's fault for being a clumsy first baseman, an average first baseman would have scooped that ball up.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@upstaphan  the same can be said about you when you were only 6 months old and starTing to walk...you were clumsy and with time and practice began to walk normally...same applies here DUDE!

Scrubs
Scrubs

@upstaphan Flores looked like the mirror image of his DP partner, Murphy.  They both look awkward and uncomfortable. Now, Murphy has worked hard to make himself a serviceable 2nd baseman and his bat warrants carrying his glove.  Let's hope Flores can hit but having both middle infield guys with questionable defense does not inspire confidence going forward.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@James @saxon  DUDA blew the scoop...an average first baseman would have picked that ball up from the dirt easily...stop blaming FLORES, all short stops rely on their first baseman to bail them out on occasion, FLORES is no exception...he's learning and will get better.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@James @saxon There is a reason the team has been wary of playing the guy -- Duda is showing he has enough defense. Murphy over time has shown he has enough offense for his defense abilities. But, we need a good defensive SS that can hit to balance their average abilities. This would be the case if Flores is at 2nd (though at this point, he very well might not be as good as Murphy there). 

robo
robo

@Richard Alicea @rodd guess fans like you are eating your words about duda i fior one never gave up hope he can do the job mark my words ike davis will be out of baseball in 2 years

shinjoooo
shinjoooo

Who is the stud in the minors? The guy who has 1 HR in 400 abs? I think you should temper your expectations a bit.

shinjoooo
shinjoooo

I love when its everyone else's fault ...simply to justify ridiculous claims.

Scrubs
Scrubs

@Richard Alicea Really? So you're ok with the equivalent of a 6 month old playing SS for a major league team while he learns the position, dude? 

James
James

@Scrubs @upstaphan Thats the problem, SS is a bigger defensive position than 2B, and we already have a below average 2B defensively.  There is a reason why we can't just plug in Flores at SS every night, and anyone who watched yesterday should see that.

Billy Suede
Billy Suede

@BiggieTKB @Joe Paulson there is simply an anti-flores bias here. first, the narrative was his supposedly bad defense, then he couldn't hit. now that he's starting to hit, they have to nitpick on plays he 'should have' made but yet daniel murphy simply needed time...


if you're going to emply 'strength up the middle' cliche, let's remember that second base counts and murphy still has to work to be passable in that respect.

shinjoooo
shinjoooo

I think it's just being realistic...not anti Flores bias. The guy would have to have 30 HRs to make up for his defense. You will see more and more bad plays from him as he continues to start art ss...bank on it.