Game Recap: Braves 4, Mets 3

Ervin Santanta pitched eight shutout innings against the Mets (3-5), who rallied in the ninth inning, but fell short, as the Braves (5-3) won 4-3 on Wednesday night. >> Read the full AP recap and boxscore on SNY.tv



Need to Know: Down 4-0, Juan Lagares drove in two runs against Atlanta closer Craig Kimbrel, who came on when the Mets turned it into a save situation in the ninth inning, singling with two out and the bases loaded. Travis d’Arnaud followed with an RBI single to make it 4-3.

Ruben Tejada struck out to end the game with runners on first and third.

Zack Wheeler allowed four earned runs over five innings of work. He surrendered eight hits and struck out six, while walking none. Jason Heyward hit a solo home run off Wheeler in the first inning after an 11-pitch at bat. He needed 96 pitches to get through five innings.

Daniel Murphy had the only extra base hit for the Mets, a double in the sixth inning. David Wright broke hit hitless streak, singling in the fourth and ninth innings.

Jeurys Familia pitched two shutout innings out of the bullpen, striking out one batter.


Game Ball: Lagares, who had two RBI and a great catch up against the outfield wall in the first inning.


What’s Next: The Mets and Braves finish up their series with the rubber game on Thursday night, a 7 p.m. start.




135 comments
Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

You're gonna have games like this. Anemic Met lineup couldn't touch Santana. Ike should have been kept in reserve until the 9th. There are times when I really must question TC's smarts as a tactician.

Frank Garza
Frank Garza

How can you give a game ball to a Mets player when they LOSE?

Patrick Boegel
Patrick Boegel

Sometimes it is the small details in managing.  Now, I am not suggesting the Mets win the game and the results be any different, but why was Ike Davis used in the top of the 8th with 1 out and nobody on base down 4-0 to bat?  That is symptom of an ill developed roster and a poor manager with zero foresight.  The Mets bench is compromised by having Recker and Quintinalla two useless players.

Olerud42
Olerud42

On the topic of boycotting:  I understand the sentiment of people who want to boycott the Mets. The Wilpons have turned into crappy owners since the Madoff scandal without a doubt and it's very frustrating to watch. 


That said, I enjoy following the Mets too much - even when they aren't winning - to give that up for the sake of a boycott which probably won't work anyway. 


Does that perpetuate the cycle of losing? It might. But if the only alternative to losing is giving up the Mets altogether, I choose losing. Winning isn't everything and there's still plenty of things that keep me interested: following David Wright's probably Hall-of-Fame career, watching the kids develop (especially Harvey when he returns, Wheeler, D'Arnaud, and now Lagares), seeing if Colon can repeat his Cy-worthy performance last year, etc.


I support other people's decision to boycott, but I can't make that decision for myself. I would lose too much enjoyment from it. 

fhc1224
fhc1224

eveyone seems to be getting on Tejada for the failure to hit Kimbrel tonight, that he should have been pinch hit for. if you look at the numbers, he is probably the second most productive hitter in the lineup so far so why not let him hit.  The biggest holes in the offense so far have been Young #1, Granderson #2, TDA #3, Duda #4 and to a lesser extent Wright & Murphy. Tejeda actually has some of the better numbers of our so called starting 8  though all of it is small sample size.  look a the numbers:


BA - top 4 Lageres 321, Murphy 250, Tejada 240, Wright 233  bottom 4 TDA 130, Granderson 138, Young 154, Duda 182 

RS - top 5 Wright 6, Lageres 5, Granderson 3, Duda 3, Tejada 3   bottom 4 Young 1, Murphy 1, TDA 2

Hits - top 4 Lageres 9, Wright 7, Murphy 6, Tejada 6  bottom 4 TDA 3, Young 4, Granderson 4, Duda 4

Hr - top 4 Duda 2, Wright 1, Lagerse 1 Granderson 1  bottom 4 Young, Murphy, TDA, Tejeda all 0

RBI - top 5 Lageres 5, Tejeda 4,Duda 4, Wright 3, Granderson 3   bottom 3 Murphy 0, TDA 1, Young 2

BB - top 4 Granderson 4, Tejada 4, Lageres 3, Young 3  bottom 4 Wright 2, Duda 2, TDA 2, Murphy 2

K's - top 5 Young 11, Granderson 9, Duda 9, Lageres 7, Tejeda 7  bottom 3 Murphy 4, Wright 6, TDA 6

OBP - top 4 Lageres 375, Tejada 345, Wright 294, Murphy 280   bottom 4 TDA 200, Young 233, Granderson 242, Duda 250

SLG - top 4 Lageres 571, Duda 455, Granderson 345, Wright 333  bottom 4 TDA 174, Young 192, Tejada 280, Murphy 292

OPS - top 4 Lageres 946, Duda 705, Wright 627, Tejada 625   bottom 4  TDA 374, Young 424, Murphy 572, Granderson 587


Going by these numbers & assuming these players remain the starting 8, the lineup should be:

Lageres cf

Tejada ss

Wright 3b

Duda 1b

Granderson RF

Murphy 2b

TDA c

Young lf


I don't like the 3 lefties in a row but if you go by the numbers it is how it works out.  With the numbers from the people on the bench, there is not much you can change with the exception of replacing Duda with Davis, possible platooning Brown with Young and giving Recker at least 2 starts per week.  Hopefully when C Young comes back E Young goes to the bench, Murphy can move back to #2, Tejada back to #8 and Young can hit between Duda/Davis & Granderson to balance the lineup a little.  Hopefully he hits the way he did in spring training otherwise there will be another black hole in the lineup.  The only other possible improvements outside of a trade or signing would be Flores, Puello, & Abreu tear it up in Vegas for a few weeks and eventually replace 1 of spot, ss, & 1b.  The problems with that happening are once C Young is back there is no room for Puello, Flores probably won't be could enough defensively at ss and Abreu is over 40 and may not be able to hit anymore.

Olerud42
Olerud42

Thoughts:


1. Youth will struggle. Can't worry about Wheeler right now.

2. Nice job by Familia and Germen in the pen.

3. Lannan is going to be the first Met to be cut, deservedly so.

4. EYJr. Not very good at baseball.


ponzies86
ponzies86

WHeeler is 0-2 and flirting with a 5 ERA 

Steven Silverstein
Steven Silverstein

I hope all mets fans read this..... I HAVE been a life long Mets fan for over 40 years and here's the difference between a winning and losing organization......the Braves need a picture... They get one... Yes we got Colon but with Harvey out and Neise possibly one pitch away from his shoulder acting up again... Why could the mets not sign Santana for a 1 year deal and more importantly keep him away from the Braves!!!!! He would be great in citifield. This is why the Wilpons suck!!!!

Doubleday
Doubleday

SOUND SMART:  The Mets could have won this game.

eric88
eric88

You CAN NOT let Tejada make the last out with the tying and go ahead runs on base and two out not with A Brown on the bench, can't do it. We talked all winter about 1B and SS, who killed that rally in the 9th, Duda and Tejada. you saw right there why this team can not contend for a playoff berth. Sandy failed us doing nothing about 1st and SS.

ponzies86
ponzies86

LOL fans on Mets.com are saying Duda is better then Davis LOL!!!!!

Bud Britton
Bud Britton

Duda 1-4 2k 4 lob while the once hot Davis is left to cool his heals. This management team can't evaluate uniform color let alone talent.

buddyryan
buddyryan

When does the Duda experiment end?

Hussein Charara
Hussein Charara

Always been a fan of Ike Davis and all I can say is I find it real funny that the guys who have always wanted Duda at 1B and for Davis to be DFA or traded are now supporting Ike Davis.

jenkins
jenkins

Wheeler has great stuff, but no control. That's why he's a  5-inning  pitcher right now. When he starts concentrating on location he'll be a 7-inning pitcher. Throws way too many pitches now. I know he's young, just frustrating to watch  right now

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

didnt watch the game today, had better things to do. didnt watch last nite, decided to watch the nets beat the heat. funny thing about that, the nets have half as many players as the mets yet more than double the payroll. i digress however...


this team is great at inducing indifference. when i saw they won the other nite i felt the same way i do now seeing that they dropped a game today. and its april 9.

72tilltc
72tilltc

@Kenneth Meltsner  Sometimes.????Just because thew won the other day doesnt mean Terry didnt make 12 bad moves.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@Patrick Boegel Absolutely!  Why bat a power-hitter with good career numbers against Kimbrel in that situation? I would argue that Recker has more intrinsic value than Quintanilla. Terry also blundered the other night when he did not run for Duda (who was nearly thrown-out at plate). Why leave him in there when you should insert Davis in for defense in the 9th anyway?

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@Patrick Boegel  Recker is a serviceable backup catcher.  Ideally you'd like to be able to use his bat in situations like that, but managers simply won't chance using the're only back up catcher as a PH.  If the Mets had a Fernando Tatis or  Brandon Inge type, maybe, but...

hankypanky
hankypanky

Since when has Recker been useless? He has proven himself to be superior to d'Arnaud behind the plate in throwing out runners and blocking passed balls. If it weren't for d'Arnaud's sudden discovery of the strike zone we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@Patrick Boegel  I assume the impulse to use Ike there was to try and get a rally started. I understand that impulse. 

stemog
stemog

@Sean Andrew Ingram Who cares if he reads the comments? He's putting stuff out there so readers can debate it among themselves. He doesn't have to be part of the discussion since he already made his point. And apparently it's working since many stories he posts get hundreds of comments.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@ponzies86 Wheeler is 24 years old and has 19 starts. He has a 96-97 mph fastball and a gorgeous slider. Not everybody figures it out as fast Gooden and Harvey. He didn't pitch that bad. Hayword's homer should never had happened. Wheeler will be a very good pitcher.

tierlifer
tierlifer

@ponzies86  But should have been the opening day starter according to many on here

danielg
danielg

@Steven Silverstein I would rather them have signed nelson cruz instead of Santana, or traded for a 1bmen.  that's all we need.  listen the mets rnt winning anything this season.  I know that.  but the mets r looking to contend in the future and signing Santana for a one year deal accomplishes nothing.


  Next year the mets rotation will hopefully be Harvey, niese, wheeler, syndergard, Montero, mejia/gee.  that's a damn good rotation if the young guys figure it out.  and even if they don't, u keep colon and u  still have Harvey, niese, gee, colon, and mejia. 


 so I am confident with this team moving forward.  we have our starting pitchers, relievers, 2bmen, 3rdbmen, and 2/3 OF of the future.  if next year we can get another decent OF and either a good 1bmen or ss, depending on which need is greater, id say we got a playoff team.  so Santana is worth nothing, he is unnecessary.  I agree the wilpons suck but Santana was not needed

Kim Jong-un
Kim Jong-un

Umm...Santana originally wanted a contract in excess of 100 million. The Braves only signed him well into spring training after being beset with multiple injuries to the rotation. Why do you thing Harang is starting instead of languishing in AAA where he belongs?

nymess
nymess

@Steven Silverstein   i agree that the Wilpons suck and that additional signings needed to be made, but signing Santana? they have glaring holes at 1B and SS that they're not willing to throw money at, why would they even consider signing another starting pitcher for $14m?

metsfanman
metsfanman

@eric88  Andrew Brown is somewhat of an all or nothing hitter. If the Mets were down multiple runs at the time I would have agreed with you given as he obviously has more power than Tejada. However, while Brown could have hit a mistake out if Kimbrel had made one, the much more likely outcome is that he would have gotten out. Now I realize Tejada did end up striking out (wouldn't be the first person to do that against Kimbrel), but I personally had more confidence in Tejada getting a single in that spot to tie the game than Brown. Not that Tejada is great, but Brown is not a great hitter either and is probably a worse contact hitter.

ponzies86
ponzies86

@eric88  TC is not a good manager and I cant believe some people in here like him SMH

buddyryan
buddyryan

Are there any Duda supporters out there?

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@jenkins Exactly. He has great stuff. He is still learning how to pitch. He is going to be a good one. Next year will be his break out year.

B Rizos
B Rizos

You can't compare payrolls of two different sports

hankypanky
hankypanky

Too bad. You missed a nice comeback that failed in the ninth inning. This team has heart.

stemog
stemog

@hankypanky That and the fact that all teams need a second catcher. Weird comment and of course no suggestion of who should be there instead of Recker. Recker is not useless.

danielg
danielg

@72tilltc @eric88 HOW? what did Collins do that didn't allow the mets to do.  put in an inferior hitter, is that what he should have done?  honestly come on already

danielg
danielg

@buddyryan yes i am. i wouldn't give ike the spot because this team cant risk another .200 start next year from their starting 1bmen. 

Carlos Rivera
Carlos Rivera

not me, This 1st base platoon is not going to work. Stick with Ike and hope to get some consistency. Duda belongs in the American League as a DH

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

@B Rizos  yes, the NBA has a salary cap and they are still more than doubling the mets. they play less home games and have less than half of the capacity in the arena. 

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly

@hankypanky  i never walk away from games being delighted with a loss, so im happy  i didnt invest too much in this one

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

Is that what you call it? Team lacks talent. If they had any they would win the game. Get it? Post that schill.

PanchoVilla
PanchoVilla

Hanky panty is either Matt in disguise or one of the other "contributors" for sure.

nvmets10
nvmets10

@hankypanky Oh god, game 8 and we're talking about 'heart'. I wonder when we're going to talk about talent.

danielg
danielg

@eric88 @ponzies86 name them.  name the three wins we lost directly because of TC.  Because Andrew brown is not the savior.  some people on this site just like to bash terry.  fi we put in Andrew brown both u guys would be complaining that he took out tejada, who is hitting well, for a no name OF.  there are some people that cannot be pleased.  I cannot think of 3 games the mets lost because of TC. he did what every single manager would have done.