Jay Horwitz

Fred and Jeff Wilpon feel your pain, says Horwitz

No one understands frustration more than Sandy Alderson, Fred and Jeff Wilpon, at least as it pertains to losing and not being in the playoffs since 2006, Mets VP of Media Relations Jay Horwitz told the Kult of Mets Personalities podcast earlier this week (BTR, June 23).

“Nobody wants to win more than we do,” he said. “We don’t shut this off when we go home at night, this is 24/7 with all of us here. … The fanbase is frustrated, believe me, we understand that.”

The media is of little help, according to Horwitz, who says stories are often tilted in a more negative direction than they should be.

In the end, though, he believes it’s all about winning and losing.

“The fans want to win now, and we do too, but the steps have to be taken, it’s not going to happen overnight,” he says. “The fanbase is not going to be happy until we get back to the playoffs and we’re trying to tell them that we know what you’re saying, we hear your frustration, we hear what you want us to do, but we have to go about it in a way that Sandy feels is the right plan. Sandy’s not looking just to win one year. He’s looking to get a nice run like we had in the 80s, when we were in first place or second each year. … I think we’re in the right direction.”

Horwitz also talked about Alderson’s plan, media in the ’80s compared to now and where the organization is headed >> Listen here.




265 comments
Michael Daly
Michael Daly

They continue to insult the loyal Mets fan base whith this B.S.

Richard Katz
Richard Katz

We are an 7 offensive players away from winning.... and we need to get new training team because we lead baseball in injuries every year!

Louis Valore
Louis Valore

dread and jerk wilpon can take a long walk off a short pier..

Leonard Porcano
Leonard Porcano

"The media is of little help, according to Horwitz, who says stories are often tilted in a more negative direction than they should be."

The PR guy complaining about the media portrayal of the Mets. Kind of like the Met hitters complaining about the balls not hitting their bats. yjcmtsu

Considering the Mets lose all the time and have taken approx 0 steps to change that in the near term, I think the media portrayal has been too positive. The team really really stinks. I love them, but they stink, and they aren't doing anything to get better. Comments like we have been seeing from the FO just show that they aren't close to acknowledging and setting about fixing the problems they have. Get ready for another few years of stinkage.

robby
robby

wilpons are a joke

Jordan Kopp
Jordan Kopp

Why try and develop young players like Kurk Nieuwenhuis or Flores when we can play 40 year old players like Bobby 2 decade Abreu. For Fred WILPONZEE and His son Jeff it's all about creating allusions so they can con the Mets Fan and take there   money, Just like there friend Bernie.

Jordan Kopp
Jordan Kopp

Please Fred WIPLONZEE Sell the team. 


Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

Message to Fred & Jeff Wilpon and Saul Katz.  STFU don't tell me about it.   DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!  YOU CAN'T TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEHAVED YOUR WAY INTO!!

Christian Pezzuti
Christian Pezzuti

That's funny considering that they are the cause of most of our pain.

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

He's not supposed to be "handcuffed". The whole idea of bringing Alderson here as GM, was to use the Moneyball theory. In short, cheap players who play well. He's pretty much supposed to be able to make something out of nothing. So, I've never bought the whole "handcuffed by the Wilpons" thing if Alderson is really so terrific.

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

Are the Wilpons rebuilding because they got sick of Omar and Phillips ways of totally neglecting the minor leagues? Or are they rebuilding because they are broke and have no choice? If they are intentionally trying to build the team up for many years of success down the road that is a little easier to take. If they are doing it because they are broke and have no choice, that I have a problem with. I'll take 5 years of being in the toilet if it means 10-15 years of success down the road, consistently making the playoffs,  playing in a few World Series, maybe actually winning another one. But if we are going to be in this mess forever unless we catch lightening in a bottle and all of our prospects work out, or until Wilpon sells the team, dies, or finds a new scam, that I can't tolerate. The Mets would like to sell us on the fact that its the former while most fans have the impression that its the later

Dave Kaye
Dave Kaye

@ Lillian. While Collins isn't a great manager he's gotten the most out of a subpar roster. Not saying he's the guy to lead the team to the ws. But he's made a little out of nothing. I have my issues with Alderson, but he's handcuffed by the Wilpons. There's no money to spend only so much he can do. Though I think if things clear up money wise we need a better GM, but when working on a small market budget what can he really? Nobody will take a pay cut to be part of an under 500 team

cyrus
cyrus

“Nobody wants to win more than we do,”  lol. you've got to be kidding me. if winning means putting money in your own pockets instead of investing some of it on the team then yeah. the truth is nobody wants to win more than the fans. wilpon doesn't want to win. he just wants to put our revenue in his pocket. 

cyrus
cyrus

basically all i get from this is that horwitz cares, not fred wilpon. the fact that horwitz has to speak on wilpon's behalf doesn't say much about fred, if fred really cared wouldn't we be hearing it from himself?

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

I wonder if Horowitz addressed the crippling payroll constraints that are slowing Sandy's plan down.

getalife
getalife

F-U. Thanks for ruining our favorite ballclub.

Lillian Whitfield
Lillian Whitfield

I love the Mets so much but its painful to watch them go down in flames. Its to the point that I often forgo watching the game because we all know its going to be the same thing different day. It rare when they win anymore and once they lose the losing streaks average lasting almost a week. I'm so heartsick over this :( :( :(

Lillian Whitfield
Lillian Whitfield

The Wilpons are clueless and inept. Sandy SUCKS and hasn't done anything constructive for this team since he was hired and as for Terry Collins he is one of the most ineffective managers the Mets have had in a long time. Willie was fired in a heartbeat and he was doing a much better job and the team was good under his leadership. He took them to the playoffs. So Why is Terry still allowed to head this team?????? The Wilpons have run this team into the ground.and they don't even have enough sense to FIRE Alderson and Collins.

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

Please just stop with the excuses or trying to be the A's, Ray's (not comparable markets) or the 80's Mets, blaming the media or us fans for wanting to win now when it's been YEARS just since SA has been GM never mind last playoff appearance or 86 since a World Series win


Commit to running a first class organisation that is committed to winning and the media and fans will LOVE YOU

UFCnumber
UFCnumber

@metsblog Fred and Jeff Coupon feel pain when Mets lose because losses mean less revenue and less $ for them to pocket to fund their losses

Nick P Saporito
Nick P Saporito

The Wilpon's take nothing home with them. If you ran into one of them on the streets they would not even know the clubs current win loss record

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

Wait...They want to Wilpons to sell the team too?

Nick P Saporito
Nick P Saporito

The Mets again shoveling crap down our throats!!!! And will they learn that the Fanbase is not stupid?

Olerud42
Olerud42

It shouldn't take more than 5 years to rebuild, I don't care what the payroll is. Sandy is a failure and should be replaced. 

Matthew Shea
Matthew Shea

The constant moving target. 2014 is the year we were told. Now we need to be patient and let Sandy's master plan come to fruition. Hahaha. Let's take bets on the next target. Once Harvey gets back . ... Once new GM [insert name here] gets his guys ... It's all BS.

Dwayne Bishop
Dwayne Bishop

simple solution to our problem, new ownership!! nothing will EVER change as long as these idiots own this franchise!!

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

Alderson knew the money situation before he took the job.  He was working for MLB as Selig's right hand man.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@cyrus He wants them to win to stop the endless negativity.  The ownership I'm sure would rather win, but only Jeff is  hungry enough and he doesn't control the money. Sandy is too cool for school and Fred Wilpon is bascially MIA. 

Sandy is an issue to me because we were supposed to get an intelligent GM, but he's too stupid to know the fan base is part of the game in NYC. He'll hop on a national radio show in two seconds to talk to Idaho about when Matt Harvey will be picking his nose next, but he'll never talk to anyone who cares or might have a follow up question.

In his own words, we talk, he tunes out and starts drinkin'

qualcomm
qualcomm

@cyrus Nobody will come on besides Jay;  he was throwing himself on the grenade. 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Jay Cross The 2nd worse thing about the payroll is that it's being used as a straw man argument to avoid accountability.

I'm one of the guys from the show...  he got agitated when we followed up about that. The line is that they don't want to spend just to spend and winning cures all;  our statement is to forget the payroll for a moment.. it's only a part of whats hurting the fan base.  I emailed him a follow up, but my sense is he feels he did his duty already.

I really feel Jay knows what's going down, but he's paid to defend it. 

For what it's worth, nobody on the team will talk, but Jay strapped on the protective cup and walked to the plate.  Not Sandy, nor Fred nor Jeff can say the same thing.

cyrus
cyrus

@UFCnumber @metsblog couldn't of said it better myself... 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Nick P Saporito Jay did that on his own.  I give him credit for that. If you read between the lines, there's a whole 2nd storyline being told.

That said, "Do you watch baseball?" is a hilarious things to say to someone that's passionate enough to do a show about baseball.

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

@Olerud42 They didn't have the balls to trade Reyes and Wright for prospects. Where would the team be if we did a complete rebuild? We could have gotten 3-4 high quality prospects for both of them, including at least one stud "can't miss' type for both. Assuming they worked out, a big if, they would just be coming to the majors right about now. Instead we can always say we have a batting champ, and of course we got "our Jeter" in David Wright, but little else as far as offense

isledogs19
isledogs19

Sorry about the attack Matt, this whole verbal diarrea is too much to take.  I wish there was a local team I could follow and like. Loyalty is not on the menu with this team anymore.  


Jay Cross
Jay Cross

@qualcomm I guess that's why Sandy and Terry stopped appearing on WFAN this season? Francesa is the only media person who asked them tough questions. I miss his interviews with Mets brass. 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Jay Cross Yup... they're no longer forced to do it. I totally agree; people rip Mike and he has his flaws, but he always goes after it.  The interviews across the media now are so fluffy that I don't even listen.

The main reason I do the show, honestly, is to give myself something to listen to. Check out some of the player interviews... they're very cool and the old school guys know how to talk..