Four Mets in Keith Law’s mid-season Top 50 prospects list

ESPN.com’s Keith Law put four Mets minor leaguers in his mid-season top 50 prospects list (ESPN Insider, July 18).

Law ranks Mets 22-year-old RHP prospect Noah Syndergaard at No. 16, 2014 first-round pick OF Michael Conforto at No. 32, Double-A OF Brandon Nimmo at No. 34 and Single-A 1B Dominic Smith at No. 49.


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“Conforto was the most advanced college bat in the draft class this year,” says Law. “He’s very close to major league ready and should be at least an above-average regular with a higher ceiling if the power exceeds expectations. The Mets should fast-track him if his performance warrants it.”


In June, Syndergaard, Nimmo and Triple-A C prospect Kevin Plawecki all checked in on Baseball America’s updated list of the Top 50 Prospects as well (Baseball America, July 7).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The bad news is that these hitters are at least a couple of years away from helping at the big-league level, all three of which are essentially on the same timeline given their age and development. The good news is that, for all the hype around their pitching, and all the talk about a lack of position prospects in Sandy Alderson‘s farm system, Paul DePodesta has clearly done a nice job drafting bats. Nimmo, Smith and Conforto all represent his top picks each of the last three seasons, and here they outrank all their pitching except Syndergaard.

It’s also worth noting that the Mets and lots of people in baseball are totally in love with Plawecki, who has a real chance of being a starting catcher in 2015. He’s built like Brian McCann, has a very disciplined bat and is talked about as a guy who will likely end up a first baseman at some point later in his career.




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Pat Brady
Pat Brady

Nimmo was not one of the last 3 picks though. I think you forgot cechinni. The systemlooks a ton better as fars as bats go though. Last time i looked reynolds was still putting up big numbers invegas too.

helloboy
helloboy

I am still not a Nimmo guy.  I just do not believe this kid will turn into much.  Sorry.  Playing in an area without a true HS team, put him behind a bit.  Sure he raked earlier this year in A+, but never really raked like that anywhere prior (i think it was the first plus .280 year he had) and immediately reduced to .207 after 26 games in AA.  Pardon me while I am not sold on even ever seeing him yet.  

J Merritt
J Merritt

I like Smith's potential too, but his adjustment in Savannah has been difficult. Nevertheless, he could be the next Ryan Howard.

J Merritt
J Merritt

One guy saying Conforto is "close to major league ready" is blowing a lot of smoke. We haven't even see him take 1 PA as a pro. You only say that about generational prospects, like Harper was, for example (as much as I hate that guy). Conforto was still a very good college hitter and I look forward to seeing him produce in the minors and majors. 


Nimmo is a few years from the majors, yes. However, it will be interesting to see what the org. decides to do with Plawecki if D'Arnaud keeps hitting like he has been... Plawecki should come up in a year or less otherwise, IMO. 

helloboy
helloboy

let's see Conforto play with a wood bat first. Notice he does not have one in the picture and that makes a huge difference.

banksta
banksta

Can we fast-track Conforto and bring him up to the big leagues today?

tullydew
tullydew

"Sandy Alderson‘s farm system, Paul DePodesta has clearly done a nice job drafting bats. Nimmo, Smith and Conforto all represent his top picks each of the last three seasons"

Matt Cerrone,

It won't be "clear", until they produce in the big leagues. Let's hope it works out but it's TBD not clear. We all should hold off praise until they work out and produce at the MLB level.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

Too bad they totally whiffed on Chechinni before that. If they'd taken Giolito who I was screaming for them to take when he fell due to TJ surgery they'd have another RHP ranked as high or higher than Thor and even more depth to trade from

drmetfan
drmetfan

I expect to see Ahmed Rosario on this list in the near future. I was watching the Cyclones game last night and the kid is something to watch. He went 4-5 and looked very good at the plate. And he is only 18 years of age.

Steven M. Harries
Steven M. Harries

I remember when Bart Shirley and Lastings Milledge were top prospects, too.


People write these silly columns to make $$$. 


No sportswriter has ever resigned for being 100% wrong.


Always dump non-generational prospects for established MLB players.*


*But before you do, ensure you maintain the pipeline to their HGH.

Rob Menna
Rob Menna

THOR MONTERO and PLAWEKI for TULO


Who here would pull the trigger?

How can such a popular blog be so poorly run?

Keith Law in your post says. “He’s very close to major league ready and should be at least an above-average regular with a higher ceiling if the power exceeds expectations. The Mets should fast-track him if his performance warrants it.”

But you go on to say: "The bad news is that these hitters are at least a couple of years away from helping at the big-league level, all three of which are essentially on the same timeline given their age and development"

I don't know which three you are referring to but Plawecki, Conforto and even Nimmo could be here helping in 2015. That, along with factual and grammatical errors really hold this blog back.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Reduced to .207 after 26 games in AA...

So? It's a small sample and he's facing advanced competition, and the power had followed him. If he turns around and adjusts there's a very good chance he's an impact bat on the majors especially with his eye.

Based on this comment I don't think I'll be exactly judging minor league players on your opinions.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Difficult? He has a .362/.392/.468/ clip the last month. The power is missing so far but Savannah is a graveyard for lefties. It will come next year.

ken1010
ken1010

@banksta

Ike was an advanced college player and a first round pick, like Conforto.  I hope Conforto works out, but it's probably 50/50 that someone drafted where he was becomes an above average major leaguer.

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

@tullydew I think he means it's clear that those picks are thought of highly by talent evaluators outside the Mets organization. 

James
James

@tullydew Not all of these prospects will work out, nature of prospects.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@drmetfan "He went 4 for 5 and looked good at the plate" that is surprising going 4 for 5 and looking good usually in order to look good one would expect 5 for 5 or even 7 for 7. In other news Lagares made 20 spectacular catches and threw out 15 runners  in a half season last year and get this"he looked good in the outfield"

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

This reads like someone that doesn't follow prospects or minor leagues.  Guys flame out all the time, but it all depends on who you are listening to.

ken1010
ken1010

@Rob Menna I'd pull that trigger for Goldschmidt, and throw in Duda too.  Tulo gets injured too much.  Goldschmidt also has a better contract and is younger.

helloboy
helloboy

@Rob Menna I am.  If i trade guys who are not top 5 players in the league for a guy that is a top 5 player, i would be nuts not to.

For_Sale
For_Sale

@Rob Menna What dont you understand.  Our ownership will not commit to a contract like his.  

helloboy
helloboy

@Chris Lyons Comforto is coming out of college so he should be closer.  I can see him getting her in a year or so if he comes out hitting.

KKIBT
KKIBT

Yeah, Plawecki is in AAA already, Nimmo and Herrera could start 2015 in AAA. if they have 2-3 good months there, the screams for calling them up will begin so fast it's not even funny.

helloboy
helloboy

@BringBackDaveTelghe Apparently, you did not read the 3rd sentence.  I did not like the pick from the beginning.  I hope he succeeds, but i can't give a guy who never played HS or college ball the benefit of the doubt.  I need to see it first.

Steven M. Harries
Steven M. Harries

@Pete Brilvitch 

Technically, though of course, there are prospects and then there are PROSPECTS. Strawberry was a PROSPECT; deGrom looks like a pleasant suprise of a prospect.* Other prospects are the 98% who play in order to fill out the roster and provide a fair level of competition for the PROSPECTS.


I hope Thor** works out, but there's no guarantee. We all know that. That's why I'd trade a non-generational prospect for an established and useful player most of the time.




*Sorry, Jake, if I jinxed you. It's Chinatown.

** Nystrom forgive me, I have sinned.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@For_Sale @Rob Menna You know, for once I actually don't blame them. If you were a billionare who owned a team, would you want to pay someone $20 million per year for the next 5 years to probably only play 2/3's of the games in that span (at best 3/4's)? Not sure I would.

helloboy
helloboy

How is Nimmo doing that?  He is currently hitting .207 in AA.  

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Steven M. Harries @Eddie_Dean Lol, I picked one notable example. How about Bartolo Colon for Brandon Phillips, Cliff Lee, and Grady Sizemore if you'd like a more recent example? Or if you want one from the Met's past, Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano? Then of course there's the great Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson trade the Red Sox made, that one really worked out for them. Or the Dodgers trading some scrub named Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields. And honestly right now, you think the Giants don't regret moving Zach Wheeler for 2+ months of Carlos Beltran, which didn't even get them into the playoffs anyway?


I've got a million of them. That's why the statement "Always dump non-generational prospects for established MLB players" is so utterly ridiculous. No, not ALWAYS. There is no such hard and fast rule. Sometimes it makes sense to give up prospects for a major leaguer, and sometimes it doesn't. General Mangers are paid millions of dollars to know the difference.

And anyone who says otherwise is a liar anyway, because you tacitly admit there are limits by your behavior, you just place them differently. Ben Zobrist is an "established MLB player." He can play a lot of positions, and the Mets would almost unquestionably be a better team right now if he were on them. But if they traded Noah Syndergaard to get him, you'd all go justifiably insane on management for making that decision, even though Syndergaard's never done anything in the majors and is currently crapping out in AAA. So obviously sometimes it makes sense to hold onto your prospects.

mets1973
mets1973

@helloboy He has a history of starting off slow then, after having made the necessary adjustments, excels at the plate. I think this will be the case with him in Binghamton.

helloboy
helloboy

@Eddie_Dean @Steven M. Harries The only reason i would go crazy if they traded Noah for Zobrist is because I know i can use Noah as a major chip to get Castro or Baez or similar

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Rob Menna @Eddie_Dean @Eric Koeller A bonafide all-star that's missed an average of 40 games to injury per year thus far, and is only 29. Guys don't generally get more healthy after they turn 30. And oh yeah, he's on a severely backloaded contract that pays him another $114 million between the end of this year and 2020, thus ensuring this financially strapped franchise can't bring anyone else of note in for the next 5 years. And they've gutted their farm system to get him.

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@Rob Menna @Eddie_Dean @Eric Koeller you're giving too much in the trade, especially with Tulo's contract 

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@helloboy @Eddie_Dean @Steven M. Harries Well, first of all, Baez is another prospect anyway so that's not a great comparison.

Anyway, I needed to pick an example that no one would argue with to prove the point. As far as Castro goes, Syndergaard is not bringing back Castro on his own anyway. Lets say for the moment Castro isn't on the market. Hypothetically you have two choices: 1. Thor for Zobrist or another player on his level (that's just the best offer you got) or 2. Keep Thor. No other options. Even then, would anyone make that trade? Of course not, b/c of Syndergaard's upside. So obviously based on that, SOMETIMES it makes sense to let your prospects develop, even when you get an offer for an "established MLB player" for one or more of them.

Rob Menna
Rob Menna

Forgive me but haven't Thor and montero both missed significant time this year due to injury?

YouveGottaBelieve
YouveGottaBelieve

@Eric Koeller You have to give something to get something.  They would still have a long-term projected rotation of Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, and DeGrom, and Plawecki is expendable due to TdA. Tulo not only fits the Mets' two biggest needs (SS and middle-of-the-order power), but he's also one of the top two players in the NL and is worth every penny on that contract (less than $20M per year!) Of course you make that trade.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@Eric Koeller Duda Cy Montero Thor Colon Murphy Grandy all for Tulo would be a good trade. Our payroll would be less and Outfielders are easy to get . 100 RBI ss's are few. 

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@Rob Menna Montero has, I'm not sure about Thor. And again, neither is owed $114 million.