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Eric Young Jr. and Lagares will both get playing time

Terry Collins said Thursday that Eric Young Jr. and Juan Lagares will each get time in the outfield, but he still does not know what his Opening Day lineup will be.

“Certainly we’ve got to figure out how to get those guys in the lineup on a somewhat regular basis,” he said. “We’ve made some commitments and we’re going to stick by them and we’ll just see how they play out.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Interesting quote, Terry. I assume this is referring to Chris Young, who has said Sandy Alderson promised him at bats, but never said he would get them starting at a particular position. Curtis Granderson will play every day, that much we know. It stands to reason, given ‘promises,’ that Chris Young will play a lot as well, most likely in a corner spot on days that Lagares is in center field. Young will likely play center field when Eric Young Jr. is in the starting lineup.

The Mets need to play Chris Young as much as they can, 1) he has a track record of success when playing every day, 2) they’re paying him $7.5 million, and 3) if he plays well, he could be this year’s Marlon Byrd, netting them something decent in trade.

Lagares is the key. He HAS TO be in center field, because his glove is special, especially when Bartolo Colon is on the mound. And, while I appreciate Terry’s comment about scoring runs when Eric Young Jr. plays, it’s not actually true. True is how well Lagares plays center field and the number of runs he ends up saving with his glove. And, for a team that will struggle to score runs like the Mets, keeping the opposition from scoring will be more important that usual.




155 comments
Joe Clark
Joe Clark

If his track record is anything like last year get him out of hear we have enough players who can bat 220-230 and hit 20 hrs (Davis and Duda) we need a professional hitter to play everyday.

mystere24
mystere24

Chris Young better get ready to wear out a path between LF and CF.

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

We have made some committments and have to figure it out???? 1st base decision not made, 5th starter not decided..the only committment they kept was to Wilpons on payroll cap.

Andrew Oci
Andrew Oci

Chris young should be on the bench period

dabo
dabo

The definition of platoon: Unprepared organization, unwillingness to make a decision: see first base, ss and CF

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

"Both of these guys are going to get playing time. Thanks as always Terry for your obvious statements that indicate absolutely nothing. We are less than 3 days away from opening day and have no idea who our starting center fielder is. The fact that its even an option to bench Lageras is beyond disturbing but that's neither here nor there. I wish the people managing our team made a definitive statement just once in their lives, but I guess that's asking too much being that they would actually have to have a plan to do that.

1craigswan
1craigswan

Nothing wrong with platoons if they work out well though I may start saying Eric Lagares plays CF for the Mets and Ike Duda plays 1st base. 

helloboy
helloboy

The one commitment they are going to keep, is the commitment of being terrible by trying to get success by replicating the failures of the previous year.  STOP!!!!! 


If you started Flores off the bat at SS, what would you have lost?  The team looks terrible now.  With him, you would add an unknown, but the fans would be off your back and put the organization in a no lose position at SS.  If he does not play well there, the team is still not good.  If he does play OK and the pop is what we expect, everyone cheers.


Screw the payroll, why is the team afraid of taking the chance and risk of success only to guarantee anger and defeat even in situations where the payroll is not the issue?

grillruben
grillruben

If you can watch Juan Lagares play Center Field and tell me he should not be playing every day over EYJR you are out of your mind. He literally saves runs with his defense. The significance of him making a great catch to rob extra bases/runs that EYJR can't get to far outweighs the difference in offensive production.

Adam Dubbs
Adam Dubbs

The best performers will end up getting the playing time over the course of the longgg season.

Case and point: Colin Cowgill was a starting OF on opening day last year after a solid spring and quickly played his way off the team.

donw
donw

Commitments?  What does that mean exactly beyond making sure paychecks totaling multi millions of dollars don't bounce?  How can a team be run in this fashion?  I've been a Mets fan since 1967 and will remain until my last breath.  But the Wilpons have to go.  The article in the NYT today says all we need to know.  Sadly, this is shaping up to be a long, disappointing season . . .

Jake Hunter
Jake Hunter

Lugares should NOT be the starting center fielder. The bottom line is he has no upside offensively. He doesn't hit for average, he doesn't have power or speed on the bases. That's great he can play defense but at this level you need to hit if your going to be a starting outfielder.

Eric Young on the other hand does have offensive upside. Sure he didn't have a great average last year but he give the lineup an element of speed. Also if terry Collins is thinking about batting the pitcher 8th, Eric Young would fit perfectly in the 9 hole with Chris Young leading off. Eric Young also gives you a good small ball player who will get the runner over, cause havoc on the bases, and play with high energy that is fun to watch. I don't think Lugares can be that guy. Young finished second in NL Gold Glove voting last year so talks of his poor defense are a joke. For people that complain about his bad jumps leading to exciting plays... who the hell cares? If he makes the play thats all the matters. You need to have someone who can help you offensively and defensively. Young gives you both of those more than Lugares. Also having Ruben Tejada and Lugares in the same lineup is very weak. You can't bunch those guys together or essentially pitchers will have two free outs. If you want to play Lugares every 5th day when Colon pitches, or when Gee pitches, I think that's reasonable. But starting him day in and day out would be a mistake! Give Eric Young his shot

Irving A. Gonzalez Ramirez
Irving A. Gonzalez Ramirez

I Disagree matt. i prefer having eric young jr at the top of the lineup.
And i was very impressed with campbell too. I'd keep him on the team too over Quintanilla

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

They are gonna play Chris Young regardless. It's not about raw talent or even potential. It's about $7.5M. Lagares might be the best defensive CF in the National League. And it's not like he's an automatic out at the plate. It is imperative that he play every day. We've had two years to watch Quintanilla. I don't care if he's Will Rogers in the clubhouse, the guy cannot hit.

DIY Degree
DIY Degree

Agree with every word, Matt. Lagares needs to be the guy. 

hashburry
hashburry

What's interesting about TC's quote?  It's obvious there are no sure fire producers in the OF, but there is money committed and obviously a verbal commitment was made to CY.  When 4 guys are underproducing come May/Jiune, TC will be running guys in and out in full panic mode trying to find some offense.

DMMP
DMMP

If the mets were willing  to play Flores at SS, why then would they not play EY over Tejada at short, or at least give him the shot?  I mean, he played a game there at short this spring.  Plays 2B.  He's an athletic enough guy that I think he could do it.... Then everyone wins.  (except Tejada) - Worth a shot...  

Travis Rush
Travis Rush

So many platoons and time shares. Pick a line-up and go with it. Trade from excess capacity and strength to improve other ares and create a cohesive unit and culture. How many mediocre major leaguers do we have to hope play well? This is not a real approach to winning baseball games. 

Doubleday
Doubleday

I like Granderson, Lagares, EY, AND CY.  Having all four of them is a luxury we haven't had in a very long time.  Personally, I'd play EY at 2B, and either play Murphy at 1B, or package Murph and Ike or Duda for another 1B.  We still have Brown, den Dekker, Newenheis, and Puello, too.  This is the most OF depth we've had in a very long time.

Joe Clark
Joe Clark

Sandy made commitments to Chris young. He has to get a certain amount of abs. I've been against this move from the beginning. We could have wait the outfield market out, instead if jumping the gun on a one hit wonder. IMO

Kim Jong-un
Kim Jong-un

Davis and Duda are both LHB who cant hit LHP. Great platoon

DIY Degree
DIY Degree

@helloboy  Agreed. No matter how you look at it, the team seems to be engaged in a concerted effort to suck. 

hankypanky
hankypanky

Explain to us why the Wilpons will voluntarily give up a cash-cow.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@Jake Ostroff Doesn't hit for average? Doesnt have speed on the bases? Go look up his minor league numbers. You're writing him off without giving him a chance. LAGares can hit.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@Jake Ostroff  Way to completely write a guy off after less than a full year in the big leagues.  Nothing screams "I got cut from my high school JV team" more than comments like this.

DMMP
DMMP

@Kenneth Meltsner  I really believe that if EVERYTHING fell into place just right for Lagares. He worked hard, played hard, trained hard, and developed to his peak... He'll end up becoming very similar to a Torii Hunter Lite.  (Lower power numbers mostly.) How can you not play that every day?

boodge106
boodge106

@hashburry  I disagree, I think you can count on Granderson for production.  He had a couple freak injuries last year in getting hit by pitches twice.  Aside from that, he has put up great numbers in his career, aside from maybe a lower batting average.  But in terms of actual run production, which is what really matters for an offense at the end of the day, the HR's/RBI/runs scored will be there.  He will still steal some bases too and play above average defense at the very least in a corner OF spot.

hashburry
hashburry

@DMMP  Young can't play second.  How can he play short?  I can't fire out how people can't understand that you can't just run a guy out to short when he isn't a major league competent SS. It is by far the most important defensive position on the field and you can't really even make up for underperforming defensively with a solid bat.  Which Young, btw, doesn't have.  If a SS start booting the ball around, the pitching staff suffers and the overall defense is diminished.  That is why you give up a bat at short if you have to.  The problem with Tejada is he's not Ozzie so if he doesn't hit at all, his average defense is valueless.

hashburry
hashburry

@Travis Rush  I like "time-shares".  Feels appropriate as TC and Alderson are like hucksters selling crap all the time.

David Jay
David Jay

@doubleday   Having 4 of what? Mediocre players?


You want luxury? Look at the Cardinals OF - both major league and AA/AAA levels. Being able to toss in an Oscar Taveras or Steven Piscotty if a player gets hurt or struggles? THAT'S a luxury.  Having a large pile of crap to sort through isn't a luxury, it's just a large pile of crap.

boodge106
boodge106

@kefhrny17  At this point, it would probably be a liability having Flores at SS with him not having played there for so long.  My thinking is they will have him play there more at AAA as insurance.  If by May or so Tejada continues to struggle as much as he did last year then I think Flores may take over.  Either that or they trade with Seattle/Arizona or sign Drew.  I think they are going to give Tejada one last chance, but he will be on a pretty short leash.

Jon Ostroff
Jon Ostroff

@Robby Johnson Nothing screams "I'm a 40 year old single guy who has nothing better to do than sit on the computer and try to think of funny things to say" like that comment

Jake Hunter
Jake Hunter

College baseball player actually haha but how did I write him off? I didn't say get rid of Lugares. Just that Young should get the first crack at starting and if Young doesn't perform then Lugares should play. You need to relax bud

DMMP
DMMP

@Ken Thall @Kenneth Meltsner  He's just such a nice guy he had to be mentioned haha.  But I think his point was that he's taking up a roster spot. 

DMMP
DMMP

@hashburry @DMMP  He's played more games at second than in the OF. Now tell me why he can't play second?  Team is considering putting flores at short, who I guarantee is a worse fielder than EYJ - so why is this a worse option?

dabo
dabo

@David Jay @doubleday  Sorry but Tavaras and Piscotty are not great.  They have been Greatly Hyped but neither is very good yet.  They are similar to den Decker in that with some time they will be good.  I have no doubt that if the cardinals had Lagares they would be starting him in CF all season!

Kim Jong-un
Kim Jong-un

His 2B stats are on par with murphy's 2B abilities. LOOK IT UP!

DMMP
DMMP

@72tilltc @DMMP  My argument is NOT against Flores. If I had my wish Flores would be playing there right now.  If you think I'm arguing against flores, you clearly have not been reading my post.  --- My argument however IS that EYJ is a better option at short than Tejada.  Thus Flores > EYJ > Tejada at short.  If I need to clarify that.

72tilltc
72tilltc

@DMMP  Look im sick of Tejada but Flores despite what people think here has a real strong arm so when he plays deep and circles he was able to make the throws. Tejada has a weak arm and plays shallow and has no range. I have seen EY throw it is the weakest on the team. Believe me if he had an arm he would have been a ss.

DMMP
DMMP

@72tilltc @DMMP  I agree with you 110%. But if collins is convinced he needs to get EYJ into the lineup, and Flores is being sent to the minors. I'm just saying it's an option, or at least should be.  - Flores is a FAR better hitter than EYJ, but I'd debate if he's a better fielder.  Debate it strongly.

DMMP
DMMP

@cleonsvan @DMMP  The team disagrees with you on this one... As he's gotten some time in at short.  I've played a LOT of the game and seen a lot of the game.  That said. His 2nd base stats as a fielder are about on par with his OF ability. (Look it up.) - Tejada is an average fielder himself at best at Short.... and a far worse hitter, providing nothing to this lineup.    I'd say EYJ's deficiencies defensively will be made up by his strengths offensively vs Tejada.  It's not like we're saying give EYJ a chance to start over some star here. This is EYJ over tejada

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@DMMP You obviously have never played the game. EY Jr is no shortstop. He is a subpar 2B. Flores needs more time to develop at short in the minors as you cannot run a team out there with Flores/EY Jr/Murphy or any combination as your middle infield.