Matt Kemp

EmailQ&A: Why didn’t the Mets trade with the Dodgers for OFers?

Mail IconVincent, a reader of MetsBlog:

There was a lot of talk about the Dodgers making their outfielders available, but no one has been moved. … It would have been great to get Matt Kemp. Did the Mets check in on those guys? If so, why weren’t they able to make a trade?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The Dodgers started listening to offers for Andre Ethier, Carl Crawford and Kemp just before the GM Meetings in early November (Rosenthal, Nov. 8), so much so that Kemp’s agent said he expected his client to be traded before Spring Training (Hernandez, Dec. 8). That has since changed, with Kemp recently saying he’s not being traded, following a conversation he had with management (Stark, Dec. 11).

The Orioles, Reds, Rangers, Red Sox and others were reportedly interested, mostly for Kemp or Ethier, but no deal has been made. My hunch has always been that Ethier is more likely to be traded now, and a move for Kemp would probably go down next winter (if at all). There seems to be a real concern in baseball about Kemp’s shoulder and ankles, putting in to question whether he’ll even be ready for 2014. So, it just seems to me like they’ll be better served moving him a year from now.

In either case, I never got any sense from people close to the Mets that these guys were ever a real consideration for Sandy Alderson. The Mets have kept an eye on Ethier for a good year or so, but the money and asking price has never lined up. Plus, the talk during the Winter Meetings had been that the Dodgers wanted at least two pitching prospects and would only pay a small portion of the remaining salary. While I once heard they were willing to eat up to a quarter of Ethier’s remaining $71.5 million, that no longer seems to be the case.




38 comments
Alex Cooper
Alex Cooper

Bill, you would seriously want either over granderson? What are you smoking

Metropolitan
Metropolitan

They did not trade for him because Sandy is as creative as a chimp....sorry chimpanzees everywhere

Mike Schlitt
Mike Schlitt

Sandy Alderson didn't acquire Andre Either so Matt Cerrone wouldn't get his blog wet.

Poop-a-doodle-doo!
Poop-a-doodle-doo!

I still think it's looking more and more like:

EY, Murph, Wright, Grandy-man, C Young, Duder, d'Arnaud, Tejada as the lineup

Gee, Neise, Wheels, Mejia, Colon as the starting five

Bobby P as the closer

The question is, is this a .500 team?  Better?

maxster
maxster

Forget about Yike Davis, and Dudu. Flores 22 is raking again in winter ball. Put him at 1st everyday and watch the year he has.

hwabouthat
hwabouthat

Dominic Smith looks like he's going to be one of the great MLB players. Kid is a slick fielding first baseman with a very smooth fluid swing. UNLIKE IKE DAVIS.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

One of the ways to curtail the negativity would be to discuss what the Mets plan to do.  Everyday we seem to be treated to an in depth analysis of why something is impossible, or why something didn't happen.  There's very rarely any positive speculation surrounding the Mets.  The discussion always seems to center around a players flaws, or his price tag, the length of his contract, etc.  This is one downer of an organization when you think about it. 

Bill Torres Hollywood
Bill Torres Hollywood

because we are cheap and wilpons only care about the appearance of being competitive instead of winning a championship. theres no reason we shouldnt have andre ethier instead of granderson. theres no reason we shouldnt have matt garza instead of colon except that wilpons r cheap.

rico
rico

First off you don't know if the Mets talked to the Dodgers. I think you answered your own questions. In Either sounds like the price was too damn high, literally and figuratively. 


Also just because the winter meetings are over doesn't mean Sandy is on vacation until spring training.  I'm guessing there will be a trade or two before the fun begins.


On December 19 I'm looking forward to April for many reasons.  brrrrr

Max Denby
Max Denby

I am so so so tired about hearing about "the money not lining up"

Jeff Steinberg
Jeff Steinberg

The way I see it: might as well sign guys if they are on the market at good value than to trade away your farm for players. In the case of getting a SS, that will require a big trade with significant prospects. Nobody good is on the market at that position that the Mets will be able to sign...

airfeet
airfeet

It's obvious.  The Mets don't want to give up their top prospects for Kemp etc.  nor should they

Amazin' Raisin'
Amazin' Raisin'

You are, of course, trolling us, Matthew. 

If you "never got any sense from people close to the Mets that these guys were ever a real consideration for Sandy Alderson" (especially Ethier) why would you post articles on (at least) December 9, November 12, November 8, October 14, June 10, and June 6 which stated things like "...Ethier can be had...he’s going to have suitors… and I expect Sandy Alderson to continue to be among them, as he was rumored to be last summer" as recently as November 8th?! And why would you list Ethier as an "option" for the Mets on November 12 when you "NEVER got any sense" that the Mets would try to acquire him? IT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO DO THAT! 

And why would you say your "hunch was always" that Ethier would be traded this winter when you lumped him in with a group of players on December 9 that you felt had ZERO chance of being traded this winter? By golly, that would just be plain ol' silly. 

Andre Ethier: Starting Mets outfielder in one of these quantum universes.

cp3melo
cp3melo

Boycott the Mets and force the Wilpons out of baseball.Less than $120 million is not acceptable for team payroll.Who enjoys watching your team vie for 3rd place?

Will Reddan
Will Reddan

Because they are overpaid and injury prone?

Gland1
Gland1

Great point.  Especially since he was traded to, um, wait where was he traded?  Which creative GM traded for him?

rico
rico

@Sentimental Steve Opening day is nearly 4 months away. Don't think it's time to make out the lineup card just yet. 


ps; they might have had the winter meetings last week but we are still technically in FALL 

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

@hwabouthat If that's true and project-able, than might as well move Wright to first now, while maybe platooning Murphy/ Flores at 3rd, because by the time Smith comes up, Wright's time could be wrapping up, just like when Piazza was in decline as Reyes/Wright emerged.

rico
rico

@Macacawitz so you're complaining that the blogmeisters are complaining…"so NY"…:)

Poop-a-doodle-doo!
Poop-a-doodle-doo!

@Macacawitz These are EXCELLENT points. Tell them that though...

jose_who
jose_who

@Chris R...and I bet you were one of the jackwagons who said in October that we wouldn't sign ANYBODY.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@airfeetAnd the Dodgers shouldn't try to give them up for less.

Same with how sandy has sat patiently for a team to give up their top prospects for Beltran, Dickey and Byrd.

CJM
CJM

@Amazin' Raisin'And beyond that, Cerrone doesn't know that the word is into, not in to. And he's a "professional" writer?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Amazin' Raisin' If you're 100% sure of something happening and 0% sure of something happening, chances are you're going to be right with whatever happens.

rico
rico

@cp3melo yeah that boycott stuff begins at home. don't go to games, don't watch em on TV or via the web and move away from bitching on Mets blogs. That would be a good start to the boycott.



jose_who
jose_who

@cp3meloHow's your boycott going? I see you're still clicking away on a team owned site. smh... If you plan to boycott, start with this site please. Your broken record posts are very annoying. Go pollute Knicksblog or something.

ac0814
ac0814

Wright is signed for the next 7 years. Smith is 2 years away.

Bob Wolfe
Bob Wolfe

@jose_who@Chris RSome people would bitch if they brought in nine free agents. Still two months until spring training. I'll bet there are 3 or 4 more new faces in here before then.