EmailQ&A: Could the Mets eventually sign Shin-Soo Choo?

Mail IconSamuel Choi, a reader of MetsBlog.com

I was wondering if there was ANY possibility the Mets could still sign Shin-Soo Choo, since all indications are his suitors are dropping like flies?


11:45 am: The Rangers have agreed to sign Choo to a seven-year, $130 million deal (Grant, Dec. 20).

Michael Baron, Contributor

Updated from 10:34 am: Obviously, there’s no chance of it happening now, but Choo is and always will be an ideal fit for the Mets offensively. They still do not have a natural, full-time leadoff hitter, and Choo would definitely fill that void at a high level.

There are a couple of problems which likely prevented the Mets from investing in Choo. First, their payroll is currently between $78-83 million for 2014, leaving no room to sign a player who will earn eight figures next season. Of course, clearing payroll space by trading Ike Davis could add some more flexibility, but I wonder if that window isn’t closing on the Mets for now. Second, Sandy Alderson said early on this winter it’s unlikely he will sign a player to a $100 million contract. Once Hunter Pence got his five-year, $90 million deal with the Giants in September, it was clear the prices in free agency were going to skyrocket this winter (and they did). This likely pushed Choo past that $100 million price point for the Mets and many other clubs very early.

Shin-Soo ChooBased on what Jacoby Ellsbury got from the Yankees, Choo should have only gotten a little less, which is what Texas gave him. Choo is a premier player in this market, and so it was simply a matter of time before someone stepped up and made a deal with him. He did well, considering his age, skill set, and likely decline in the early part of the contract.

Outside of a possible acquisition at shortstop, the Mets are likely done adding primary position players this winter. I thought there might be a chance they could add a left-handed compliment to Chris Young, but it seems they’re now focused on adding starting pitching depth on minor league deals to compete with Jenrry Mejia, and also improving their bullpen on the back-end.

This doesn’t mean the Mets don’t have needs remaining offensively – obviously, they do. However, Sandy Alderson has acknowledged publicly they could go into camp with continued weaknesses on the roster. They could conceivably protect these weaknesses by creating platoons with in-house options – such as first base – but they’re expecting growth from their current holdovers once again, which is necessary regardless of their investments in the external markets.

183 comments
Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

Much as we almost all want the Wilpons out, they can complete a respectable off season if they find a way to add Drew without giving up more than the 3rd year. Granderson replaces arguably their best hitter of 2013, Byrd. Colon could be respectable enough to the point where if Wheeler improves a bit and Niese/Gee improve a bit, they'd have a pretty respectable starting rotation. Young is a decent enough 3rd outfielder which for us is actually an upgrade since we barely had 5 or 6 4th outfielders to start last season. I think most of us are fine with Wright and Murphy and giving D'Arnaud a full season. And we'd like to see what Legares can do offensively with 2013 behind him. And we can't do worse at 1B regardless of who plays there. So the clearest other place to make a move is at SS. With that in mind, and very little in the minors, a 3 year deal for Drew seems perfectly reasonable. Probably won't get him anyway. The Red Sox will swoop in and match it but so what. The more than pay, the less they have to make other acquisitions. Barring injuries, adding Drew to the existing team gives us a real shot at .500 baseball next season and leaves us a Harvey, Syndergaard and one notable FA away from contending in 2015 with a very reasonable team salary in place so we can actually maintain a decent team long term. Doesn't mean I'm contend or happy but at this point, I'd like a reason to actually pay attention. At the moment, there doesn't seem to be one.

rico
rico

Ya might want to take this blog entry down now.


He' Choo Choo'd away to Texas/



Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

Never liked this guy at those years and that salary. Glad he didn't find his way here.

TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

Dodge a huge bullet. Glad we won't have him for 7 years.

Joseph Jerminario
Joseph Jerminario

Why? You can't have four outfielders on the field at the same time!! Besides the Wilpons no longer offer long term deals. They suck!!

Jaime
Jaime

You guys remember that one time when someone almost bought part of the team and almost tricked the Wilpons into putting in a "if this happens by 2016, I can buy majority of the team" clause?


sigh...so close...so close.... :(  He knew that the Wilpons wouldn't be able to keep the team. 

Jaime
Jaime

And the Mets wanted a 3 year deal...would have fought a 4 year/80 million dollar deal.


Mets front office was bonkers about who they could sign and with what amount of money.  After they realized that, they put a lot of money towards, Granderson/Young/Colon.  I feel they overpaid (by yearly payments, not years) to each of these guys.  NO, that wasn't the market.  Its more that they realized that Choo, Ellsbury,  etc weren't going to be 4/5 years at 15 million per type deals.  They realized too late.  So they overpaid for an old Granderson coming off injury, Old Colon (c'mon, 10 million!!!!), and a bad Young (c'mon, I like that he can be a 20/20 guy but its at an "ike Davis" type bat...can we really stomach another season at someone hitting .220?  Think of Buck.  20 HR's but hit .200.  Was it really that useful?)



MMIAA
MMIAA

These owners are their own worst enemies. How stupid.

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

Where are all the guys that were so sure that Choo wasn't going to get near the money that Pence got before free agency started? I don't even have the stomach to post the names that I got called when I said he would beat pence in years, total value and AAV. Come on, fess up. Where are you guys?

David Smith
David Smith

What upsets me is Choo was a target for the Mets at the beginning of the off-season, untill they saw how much it would cost them. Either they don't want to spend that kind of money, or they are not aware of what the true value of the market is. To me it shows that the Wilpons aren't committed to putting a quality team on the field, and that Sandy isn't as aware of what's out there as he let's on...how do you NOT know how much a player is going to cost.


Max Denby
Max Denby

87 mil is unbelievable. That number must be raised. Please don't expect people to come out to citi with that sort of nonesense payroll. Invest in your fans if you want them to invest in you.

Marcus Jensen
Marcus Jensen

I guess this puts to rest the 5 years, 100 million Choo debates. Try 7 at 130. No way is it appropriate to go that much.

willy
willy

Please Please PLEASE Sell the Team and get some money and get real players.  All the rest is a waste of our time.  

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

Don't worry fellow Mets fans, I'm sure when Choo's contact is up in 7 years and he's approaching 40 years old, the Mets will offer him a veterans minimum contract and he'll be all ours...LGM!

dreamer3kx
dreamer3kx

Boras overhypes his players knowingly, he asked for much more then worth then negotiates from there leading to fat paydays, I would no doubt want him as my agent if I was a good/ great player.

Major Pain 0303
Major Pain 0303

How in the hell does Boras do that? He takes what is seemingly no market for a player and gets a team to over pay for him. No one else was going to give him 7 years and he said u will give him that money Texas. They say OK. Unreal. Like Prince. No one was going to give him that money until boom 8 year deal. Props to that man.

Donny Nelson
Donny Nelson

No need for him anyway. What was the point of the question?

metstream
metstream

I know this is beyond wishful thinking, but I would love a left to right outfield of Nelson Cruz, Curtis Granderson and Chris Young. I really don't like the Young signing, but Sandy has promised him playing time in the outfield. I truly doubt that he'll end up being 2014's version of Marlon Byrd, as I'm sure Alderson's hoping. Ideally I'd love to see the Mets package a combination of Juan Lagares (who could unfortunately end up being another Carlos Gomez once he's gone) and Ike Davis or Lucas Duda to upgrade the shortstop position. The perfect scenario sees Mitch Moreland departing Texas via trade paving the arrival of Duda or Davis and Lagares for Elvis Andrus and a decent pitching prospect. Hey, we can dream can't we?

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

now that Choo is no longer a point of discussion for the Mets, can we pleeease find a way to sign Stephen Drew??

richard58
richard58

Choo signs with Texas Rangers for $130 million over 7 years.

Gland1
Gland1

Were there people out there who actually thought they were going to sign Choo?  Because after they signed Granderson nobody has mentioned him until this stupid post.  

Ricky
Ricky

Bottom line --  Choo makes them better.  If Mets wanted to compete, they would have signed Choo.

tullydew
tullydew

We can't play ball w/ these big market teams.

Wish the Metsblog writers would write an article about our EMBARRASSING and UNACCEPTABLE payroll.

87 million dollar payroll in NYC is a joke

Frank Accardi
Frank Accardi

SO TIRED OF THE SMALL MARKET STUFF    IT SHOULD NOT MATTTER CLEARING PAYROLL SUCH AS DAVIS,, IMPRIOVE THIS TEAM MY ADDING PAYROLL OR SELL THE TEAM

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

Platoons are not ideal nowadays when rosters are carrying 12-13 pitchers.  A Satin/Duda platoon also clogs the roster with two slow footed below average defensive players.   And one of them has shown over the course of 4 years to be a pretty crappy ML hitter.


cver
cver

Worst contract EVER!!!

Gland1
Gland1

@Jaime yeah, I guess they didn't get "tricked".

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

5 at 100? People were yelling 60M/4 not too long ago.

Olerud42
Olerud42

@dreamer3kx True, although Jay-Z did a good job with Cano. $240mil is nothing to sneeze out. 

pastline63
pastline63

@Major Pain 0303 He's smart in that he also uses his clients as moles in an organization in order to help him set  a pace as to what move he can make, and to capitalize on it's  timing.

metfan8669
metfan8669

@rubiconx0 - Choo was never a point of discussion for the Mets.

He was fodder for MetsBlog only.

metfan8669
metfan8669

@Ricky - Choo is not that good Ricky.  No way he would put up the same numbers in an pitchers park, and no way he would play good defense in a big OF.

Texas is a perfect fit.  He can slug away in a stacked lineup with a small park , where it  is hot and the ball travels further.  And if he ages poorly he can DH and they can put other guys in the OF.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@bcleveland @Mark Henriques So you wanna put the slowest guy on our team batting second because? lol i think youre on something else, not to mention hes a rookie AND can't be counted on to get on base in front of Wright and Granderson....

ac0814
ac0814

No thanks. I'd rather have Murphy, Flores and Montero than a vastly overrated and over paid Andrus.

Ricky
Ricky

@bcleveland @Ricky Every contract is a risk. We're in NY- if you want to win, you're gong to have to swallow some cash and pull the trigger on some deals. Maybe he's an All-Star for 3 years, a good player for 2, and mediocre for the 2.  Either way, he makes us better.  Yankees would've done the deal if they needed him & they're in the postseason every year (except last year)


I love the Mets don't get me wrong, but they are cheaper than Mort from Family Guy.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@ac0814 I love your thinking.. some people on here are so dumb... Andrus is way too expensive and is not worth a .300 consistent hitter, an upcoming pitching prospect, and our best hitting prospect.. not at all