eMail Q&A: What can Sandy Alderson do to acquire a big hitter?

sadavatarJeremy B from Hartsdale: I realize the Mets are never going to acquire Giancarlo Stanton from the Marlins. And I want no part of Carlos Gonzalez or Troy Tulowitzki, because of injuries and road splits. But, they have to do something. David Wright and Curtis Granderson are now total mysteries and, while I want to believe in Lucas Duda and Travis d’Arnaud, I don’t think the Mets can bank on them going to in next season. Sandy Alderson isn’t going to (nor should he) trade any of his top pitching, so he is going to have to spend money and either sign or trade a big hitter. He has no choice…


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: OK, but who? Where is the guy he can sign or trade for, who you can bank on? That guy doesn’t exist. It’s 2014. The reason you are referencing an idea and not a specific player is because that specific player with that contract isn’t available. Instead, it’s guys with big contracts and on the wrong side of 30, like B.J. Upton, Brandon Phillips, Ryan Howard, Carl Crawford, Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp… and maybe soon to be Granderson, I fear.

Why are the Cubs asking for Zack Wheeler and Noah Syndergaard in return for Starlin Castro? Because they can. Why would the Marlins insist on Matt Harvey in a deal for Stanton? Because he’s the best bargain in baseball and every team can afford him.


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I’m still intrigued by Jose Reyes, who has around $55 million or so due to him the next three seasons ($4 million buyout on team option in 2018). However, I don’t know why the Blue Jays would trade him considering where they are as a franchise and how difficult it is to find a productive shortstop. There could, obviously, be a case where they want to move him and his money, but the price would be steep. Of course, I still contend if Alderson wanted to pay this type of money to an older Reyes he would have done it years ago when Jose was on the Mets… and he didn’t. To be honest, I’m still afraid Reyes is going to end up on the Yankees…

Similarly, I’m intrigued by Elvis Andrus and his potential. However, $120 million over the next eight seasons is absurd for a 26-year-old who has been in decline the last couple of years. I still bet Andrus ends up being traded to the Dodgers for a guy like Kemp, but we’ll see…

I understand your frustration, Jeremy. However, it’s as much an issue with Alderson and his budget as it is with the overall market for offense, which, by the way, is down around 50 percent across baseball going back to the late ’90s. Supply is short, demand is high. The good news is the Mets have young players to trade, be it quality pitching prospects or Dilson Herrera and Kevin Plawecki. They should also have room in the budget, assuming they want to increase payroll back to around $100 million (or more). I don’t know who can be had, but that has to be worth something to someone, somewhere, right?




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id gladly take reyes back.. the ballpark was made for him and bringing him back will give us the mets fans something to finally look forward to. especially with our amazing pitching staff


Breanna Susa
Breanna Susa

I miss reyes. He was so exciting to watch.

Chris Kujawa
Chris Kujawa

If the Dodgers get Andrus and Yankees get Reyes then where does HanRam go?

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

I am sick of the Mets wasting their money on unproductive free agents. Build with the den Dekkers, Neuenhuises, Flores, Plawecky, etc. In order to get a big slugger like Stanton it would cost way too much. In baseball the supply does not meet the demand. Therefore they are too expensive and you end up with Bonilla, Bay, C. Young, etc. Their really big need, however, is Wally Backman teaching these young guys how to play. All Collins does is stand in the dugout fiddling with his magic marker and count to 100 to take out his starting pitcher.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

What scares me more than not acquiring a legit power bat.... is if Wright will not be the player he used to be in the coming years.... And Grandy continues to hit .210...with 15-16 hrs a year.

matmil
matmil

You could give them Harvey, Wheeler, Thor a bucket of balls and Times Square and the Marlins aren't gonna do it. If they trade Stanton to a team in their own division and have to face him 20 times a year thats really insane.

Erik Scheibe
Erik Scheibe

Mets should unload the entire farm system in two potential trades,  One would be Stanton.  There is no chance that he will stay there and I would trade for him unless he was signed 12 tears at $320 Million.  It would instantly put us on the map and we can probably offer more than any other team could.  Florida will never pay him and after watching him this past weekend, there is not a chance he will stay there.  Add him to our line-up and we are instant contenders.  Offer Florida Syndegaard, Niese, Mejia, Plawecki, Rosario and Puello (if you need to throw in another low level or two, do whatever it takes)..  Tell me they will get a more lucrative package from someone else. 


Then turn our sights on Cleveland.  I don't know why nobody is talking about Lindor, but they just traded for another good SS prospect.  We could replenish their rotation and they still would be set at SS.  They think they are on the verge and we could send them Gee, Montero, Flores, and Den Dekker.  Same thing, if we needed to throw in another low level or two, so be it. 


We then go out and sign a front line pitcher, who would be easier to sign than a big bat. It we found a way to overpay to pick up those two players, we would not only instantly compete for a world series now, but we'd also be positioned to compete for probably the next decade.  Herrera ready to replace Murphy when he leaves FA, Nimmo/Conforto ready to replace Granderson when they're ready, Smith ready to replace Duda when he goes FA, Matz (or another yong pitcher) hopefully ready to replace Colon.  The rest will be elite offensively and defensively, and under team control through 2020.


Payroll would be increased by about $35-40M, but this is why they've been creating payroll flexibility  Stanton alone would instantly regenerate ticket sales, not to mention winning in 2015. 


Imagine rotation of 1. Harvey 2. Lester/Scherzer/Shields/Vogelsong 3. Wheeler 4. DeGrom 5. Colon


Lineup of 1. Legares/Lindor 2. Murphy 3. Wright 4. Stanton 5. Duda 6. D'Arnaud 7, Granderson 8. Lindor/Legares


Team payroll of $120-130M, the same range it was a couple of years ago when we were in decline.  Everyone can bitch about the Wilpons, but they would absolutely pay that much if they had a contender. 

Sam Wild
Sam Wild

you who wouldve been a good guy to get, yoenis cespedes

j0sHi328
j0sHi328

Reasons I have no problem with trading Harvey for Stanton

1. Stanton is younger

2. Stanton plays everyday

3. We have pitching depth

4. Harvey is a Boras client and undoubtedly walks, if Stanton can be signed long term REGARDLESS OF THE PRICE, its a no brainer

5. Harvey is coming off TJ surgery

6. Position players generally last longer than pitchers

7. Harvey has a year and a half under his belt, Stanton has a few

8. The offensive woes of not just the team but of baseball in general

9. We'd need very little more than Harvey to actually get him, so we don't lose much depth

10. It gives the Mets a legitimate superstar position player

pg4ny
pg4ny

Package Puello,NimmoTapia,Walters,Mateo and  Campbell

for  any starting outfielder on the Marlins.

pg4ny
pg4ny

Trade Granderson.Sign Melky Cabbrera and resign Marlon Byrd. Bautista for Thor ,Campbell and Gee(but the Mets will not spend $$$$

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

So now the line becomes the Mets have the money but there's no one worth spending it on? Right..... This team will think of anything to get out of spending money

tullydew
tullydew

I guess the PR department of the Mets has ordered Cerrone not to mention Tomas anymore.

qualcomm
qualcomm

Hanley Ramirez.  Hanley Ramirez. Hanley Ramirez. Hanley Ramirez.

qualcomm
qualcomm

Well, what about the fact they didn't get the pieces as they became available? I guess Cano doesn't seem so crazy now?  Maybe Ryan Braun a couple of years ago?

David Grover
David Grover

doubt Reyes ends up with the Yankees since teams try to avoid trading inter division

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

I agree with some of the other posters here, Melky Cabrera and Tomas seem like the best options. On the downside, there is a lack of quality OF bats available and the track record Cuban ballplayers have had in recent years (and the escalating asking prices they've been getting) will cause prices to go sky high. Tomas will likely command a multiyear deal well in excess of $100 million. That's a lot of money to commit to a guy who hasn't played in the majors. One of these guys is going to eventually be a bust, and if he's the one he'll cost some team a ton of money. Still, he and Cabrera seem like the best options for the Mets and, unfortunately, every other team in need of an outfielder. At least the Dodgers, yankmees, and Red Sox are all set in the OF. Still, that never seems to stop the yankmees.   

mettherapy
mettherapy

Melky Cabrera is the best free agent available. we need a LF. WE have one of the lowest payrolls in baseball. He has produced consistently all season and he's only 30 years old. It will take a 3 or 4 year deal to get him, but what better options do we have?? i dont see it from within, and he wont cost us any prospects.

gattsu
gattsu

BTW, can someone provide a credible source that states the Cubs asked for Thor AND Wheeler for Castro? That trade is absurd and anybody with a sane baseball mind would laugh Theo off the phone if that proposal was made.

zoddie
zoddie

I'm intrigued by Tomas, like everyone else here.  But let's not pretend that he's going to be Puig.


Tomas hit six home runs in 257 PAs last year.  In Cuba.  That works out to around 12 HRs in a full season.  Against Cuban pitching.


If there are no other options via trade for someone better, sure, let's get him.  But he's far from a sure thing. 


Some teams get Hideki Matsui, others get Kazuo Matsui.

gattsu
gattsu

I love how Cerrone makes NO mention of Tomas... He makes the most sense!!!!!!! Stop being a damn puppet and urge this organization to spend some money on the quality players that we need. Tomas can be had without giving up any of our pitching/prospects.

1metfan
1metfan

Melky Cabrera for LF on a 2 year deal would help

thommy
thommy

Agree. If those two continue as they currently are, we are dead next year. Terry is a star struck manager. He will not sit or demote 'stars'. A real problem for Sandy.

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

That is absolutely incorrect. Marlins have traded star players within the division generally and to the mets specifically many times and they will do it again.

shawnp6986
shawnp6986

To add to everyone's comments,we also wouldn't get him for all our pitching cause Miami already has a young great crop of pitching on the up and up already,they don't need ours in exchange for Stanton.Don't get me wrong,I'd LOVE to have Stanton on our Mets,but its nothing more than a Pipedream at this time.If I'm wrong,I'll eat crow all day,but its not happening,unfortunately.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@Erik Scheibe First of all, neither one of those trades gets accepted. Not nearly enough for Stanton. You are going to have to way overpay to get him and this isn't close. 

And a team payroll of 120-130? Seriously? Should a NY team spend that much? Absolutely! But have you not read anything about their finances? That's a pipedream. Did Madoff get sprung from prison?

gattsu
gattsu

@Erik Scheibe Stanton cannot be had by your trade proposal, Stanton cannot be had, period. I wish everyone would stop with these ridiculous Stanton fantasies because he will never don a Mets uniform. If I'm Miami, why would I send a top 3 hitter in the league (under the age of 25) who is poised to become one of the next faces of all of MLB to a division rival?


Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have Stanton on my team, but it just isn't realistic. If Stanton has any remote chance of being traded here, you begin the talks with Harvey. I'd say Harvey, deGrom and Nimmo might be able to get it done but I would never do that deal. 



metsfanman
metsfanman

@j0sHi328 Would think given the sensational year Stanton is having in 2014 while Harvey had been recovering from Tommy John and not thrown a major league pitch, it would take more than just a little more than Harvey to get Stanton. Otherwise, I agree with your points,

mets_ws15
mets_ws15

@pg4ny no way are the mets trading thor back to toronto and no way theyre resigning byrd.  im down to get bautiista but the jays aren't giving him away unless they get syndergaard, so that deal probably won't happen anyway.

ponzies86
ponzies86

That would be a huge upgrade

zoddie
zoddie

@qualcomm  I think we have plenty of depth at 2b, no?  Murphy, Flores, Herrera, Reynolds?

And wasn't Braun always going to resign with the Brewers?


If you want to get mad at not nabbing an available player, the name you are looking for is JOSE REYES.  Now THAT was a mistake (even if you don't sign him, trade him).  But I think that was more of a Wilpon decision than a Sandy one.

Tom Gallagher
Tom Gallagher

Oh, and I almost forgot: Let's also target Asdrúbal Cabrera!

zoddie
zoddie

I think most people thought Choo would take a 4-year deal.  He got 7 years AND is older than Melky.  I'd love Melky and, pre-Madoff, I think the Wilpons could afford him (see: Beltran, Delgado, Johan, etc.).  If Melky gets 6 years/$110m?  I doubt the Wilpons can pay that.

zoddie
zoddie

@1metfan 30 year old Melky is getting a LOT more than 2 years.  Hell, 37 year old Beltran got three.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@Jayson Love  Piazza was one..however I see Stanton on the Red Sox eventually

mets_ws15
mets_ws15

@gattsu if the mets make an absolutely great trade to get stanton, i could definately see the Marlins deal stanton.  remember when florida had Miguel Cabrera......

j0sHi328
j0sHi328

I totally agree, I just don't think ownership would ever go after Tomas, besides I have a strong feeling the CWS will outbid everyone for him seeing how Abreu worked out

j0sHi328
j0sHi328

Well I mean it might also cost a Montero or a Nimmo but you do it, I mean it makes the Marlins and Mets substantially better, you imagine Miami with Fernandez and Harvey? The Mets with Stanton and the pitching depth we currently have? Hell go out and sign Scherzer or Lester, makes the Mets the team to beat in the whole NL maybe even all of baseball

1metfan
1metfan

@zoddie @1metfan  May be he will , I wouldn't be so sure given his past.

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

Piazza, leiter, lo duca , delgado: obviously not stanton's level (except piazza ) but all proof Marlins would trade with the mets if the trade was right.

zoddie
zoddie

@1metfan What past is that?  His PED past?  Zero GMs give a crap about that.  And, when you get down to it, nor do fans.


He has an OPS of over .800 three out of the past four years and is relatively young.  Dude's going to get PAID.