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Dillon Gee is underrated, has 7th-best ERA in MLB since last May

Dillon Gee tossed eight scoreless innings in Sunday’s 4-0 win against the Marlins.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, his 2.75 ERA since May 2013, is the seventh-best ERA in baseball during that time.

David Wright has confidence in Gee, and said this after Sunday’s game:

“He’s pretty under the radar, like a lot of players in this room. Everybody wants to see guys light up the radar gun, guys want a ton of strikeouts, guys want the sexiness of pitching, and I’m not sure if Dillon is all that sexy of a pitcher. He just goes out and gets the job done. He’s not going to impress you with the radar gun, not going to strike a lot of guys out. What he’s going to do is induce ground balls, pound the zone and know how to pitch. You look on the scoreboard and see a lot of 88s and 89s, and you don’t truly understand and appreciate what he does until you see from behind the movement he has and his ability to pinpoint his pitches and throw all his pitches in any count. It’s pretty special working behind him.”

Gee has a 3.47 ERA since 2012. In that time, he’s thrown at least six innings and let up three runs or less in 65 percent of his 41 starts.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I’m not sure why this is a surprise any more. He’s been consistent for years. He struggled at the start of last year, which probably had more to do with finding a rhythm after having surgery to end the previous year. I love how he keeps the ball low, changes speeds and keeps batters so off balance. They’re seemingly ahead of his fastball as often as they’re behind it, which is telling of his game plan.

The bottom line is this, which I seem to tweet every night he pitches: Gee is underrated. MLB needs to take more notice of what he’s doing and how he gets it done. I’m thankful he’s on the team.




45 comments
mique1313
mique1313

I have always like Gee.  I have always said that he truly knows "how" to pitch.  Even though power pitchers are exciting to watch, Wheeler , Harvey and company can learn a lot from Gee.  Wheeler especially.  They all need to learn "how" to pitch.  Up, down, in, out, change speeds, etc.  He has always been very consistent.  


metjetnet
metjetnet

It's been ever thus for Gee. Rabidly following the Mets' Farm System is standard operating procedure now, but 5-8 yrs. ago, there was only a few of us who scoured it intently. 

Those folks remember that Gee was pretty much where deGrom is now... prized but not touted, necessarily, and well behind his generation's version of Thor & Montero & Harvey & Wheeler. He was always the boring brother to hotter, yes sexier, hardballers -- who (SHOCK!!) aren't around anymore. 

But in the time-honored brotherhood of "How the hell did he get me out??" stuff guys, like Tommy John and Greg Maddox, etc., Gee will turn around in, say, 15 yrs., 17 yrs, wondering how he can squeeze just one more year out of his arsenal of stuff, before he retires.

Jay Timmerman
Jay Timmerman

So, who do you trade for a hitter? Gee and Montero are not as valuable as Harvey, Wheeler, Syndegaard.  But Harvey won't regain his value until he proves he can return.  Hefner is expendable but won't garner much in return either.  Maybe you think the trade one of the big three if the price is right.  What about Syndegaard, Flores, DeGrom and Cechinni for Giancarlo Stanton?  I wonder if the Marlins would bite.

selldamets
selldamets

He's Rick Reed redux, and I would take that in my rotation any day of the week. 

Balonius
Balonius

Reminds me a bit of Bobby Jones, same results...

Kevin Joseph Patrick
Kevin Joseph Patrick

I was all over this guy, calling for him to either get traded or sent to the bullpen. I also said that come next year there wouldn't be a spot for him in the rotation. Well, I must admit that I was wrong, very wrong. This guy goes out every 5 days & is superb. He doesn't have flashy 95-MPH attached to him, but he throws strikes & has impeccable control. I admit when I'm wrong, no matter how much I hate it. There certainly is a spot for him beyond this year. If he keeps this up, the Mets can feel more comfortable trading one of their prized arms to upgrade somewhere else, maybe SS. I just hope he keeps it up because I really like what I am seeing. I never thought I'd say this, but Dillon Gee is the anchor of this rotation & so long as he pitches like the man, this team just might do things this year.

rstpigeon
rstpigeon

I don't think either the fans or the league underrates Dillon Gee. However, I think the Mets have to make some business decisions with him. He rarely gets to 7 innings and that will keep him back of rotation - that's my only negative with Dillon Gee. It's a negative because he's been good, is arb-eligible at the end of this season, and he'll command middle-rotation pay. Not the worst thing, but he'll be 31 when he hits free agency in 2017 and the Mets might want to move him before his arb years are up and he's still a hot commodity. Or, they could opt to by out his early FA with a multi-year deal (not likely). Or, they could plan to hang on to the start of his FA and, if he still merits it, chance a QO to get a comp pick or sign him.


Have to start seeing where these guys are headed. If my team needs a guy to anchor the middle/ back of the rotation to make the playoffs, I'm making the Mets an offer. I think Gee could provide a real return.

Robert Wohner
Robert Wohner

I fear that Noah Snydergaard could become the next Royce Ring or Scott Kazmir: hot prospects who's greatest asset is their cool names. Dillon Gee might be a terrible name but he's a proven starter. If I'm Alderson, I'm not trading Gee or Niese. Sell high on Thor and round this team out with a legitimate power threat. 

Jay Timmerman
Jay Timmerman

Gee has been very solid and is a very underrated pitcher.  Unfortunately, he may be the odd man out.  I hope he is not because he has proven he can have success at the Major League level.  When looking to the future, it's very hard to predict the rotation.  If Harvey, Wheeler, and Syndegaard hold down three spots in the future rotation, that only leaves two slots for the likes of Gee, Montero, Niese, DeGrom, Matz, Hefner, and next year for Colon.  It's a tough rotation to crack.  I'd have to assume that Niese has a leg up due to his contract and success.  Who knows if Colon will be effective for two more seasons, but if Niese and Colon get the two slots that leaves Gee, Hefner and Montero on the outside for the time being.  It's a good and bad spot for the Mets.  I think they need to consider trading from the strength, which is their starting pitching, for some major league proven, youthful hitting.  Assuming Harvey recovers well and Syndegaard progresses the way he's predicted to, it will be a tough decision.

wildboys
wildboys

Gee is under the radar to fans, because he was not a hyped prospect. He's not under the radar to opposing teams. He's a guy that's learning how to pitch, and still refining his craft. If he can do this for the rest of the year, and into next year, he will start to register on a lot more media and fan radars. Nobody knows what Thor or Montero will do as a major league pitcher, so while not a sexy name yet, Gee will have tremendous value to the mets or another team as the year progresses, assuming he keeps it up. I wouldnt feel comfortable trading Gee, until seeing what the other 2 sexy prospects will do. Even then..... having one of the top 10 pitchers in mlb is something that we're all just hoping Thor or Montero turn out to be, and if we already have that in Gee, perhaps we should start treating him the way we've been treating Harvey and Wheeler, and looking at him as one of our big time pitchers heading into the future.

helloboy
helloboy

Everybody kill Helloboy time. 


Here is the deal.  I want to keep Gee.  He is still young, a tremendous pro, and i know what we will get out of him.  He is an under-rated and undervalued pitcher who is a solid 2.  


I would try to move Thor.  Mainly, i have Montero and DeGrom at the same level and kicking it.  With other options coming up too.  I can get more for Thor without losing much in terms of the rotation.  


If I moved Thor to AZ for Owings, Collmenter and Brandon Drury (prospect), i would do it.  All are youing. Collmenter is a solid reliever that can shore up the BP and rest Torres more and cut down on the German and Familia ups and downs.  Owings would solve our SS issues and Drury is a prospect who can take over for Wright or be used as a solid trade piece later on again.


AZ needs pitching in the worst way.  I may even give Plawecki, and Familia since we also have Centano out there. if I can add more from them, like Prado  who costs them money and is 30.  Mets can still use him for the next three years.  He plays well under pressure and can play multiple positions, with NL east experience.  he is struggling early, no doubt due to the other offensive issues they have.  The organization is a total mess. 

osujerry
osujerry

The Mets need to think about trading Colon at the deadline or in the offseason. Next year there are at least 7 really good options at starting pitcher.




domtoretto
domtoretto

He reminds me of Rick Reed.  A "poor man's Greg Maddux" as Tim McCarver put it.

mets2014
mets2014

gee is doing a great job of increasing his trade value...with the new playoff structure, there will be a ton of teams looking for a pitcher like gee to enhance their rotation...the mets need to capitalize on that

helloboy
helloboy

Gee is tremendous.  He should be extended and kept with the team.  He is still young enough to be around a while.  He is also enough of a vet to be a voice for the youngsters who join the team.  Just another reason why we can trade off another big prospect for a bat.  

1craigswan
1craigswan

He reminds me of Bobby Jones. A gamer who goes about his job, nothing flashy, but puts us in a position to win. 

tk2120
tk2120

YUP...and all along, everyone was so easy to say 'oh, just get rid of Gee in a trade'.....no....our rotation from 2015-2017 should be..Harvey, Wheeler, Syndegaard, Niese, Gee (in whatever order).... 

Colon should be moved at this years deadline to make room for Syndegaard

Matsuzaka should be our closer this year, and always kept for a versatile reliever/spot starter

Montero should be traded for a nice bat OR turned into a reliever, because he's never going to crack THIS rotation

deGrom should also be traded for a bat....you turn Montero & deGrom into an actual 4 batter (power OF or 1B) instead of trying to make guys like Jason Bay, Scott Hairston, Marlon Byrd, and Granderson into the type of hitter they are not.


i'm not surprised that Gee has pitched well, he is always overlooked & i'm glad he's finally getting some recognition.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

"He has been mostly consistent for years."

2011: 4.43 era, 83 ERA+

2012: 4.1 era, 93 ERA+

2013: 3.62 era, 98 ERA+

I like Gee, and for his price he's been pretty good and shown improvement.  He's consistently putting up league average numbers which has a definite value.

jenkins
jenkins

exactly what I posted yesterday.Most underrated pitcher in MLB>

Jeff Ordon
Jeff Ordon

He is this teams Rick Reed....very similar pitchers...right down to the uniform number

Bob G
Bob G

Keep things under the radar…it's working..

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Robert Wohner So...your basis on evaluation is someone's name? I can assure you, the coolest part about Syndergaard is hardly his name but his potential ability.

helloboy
helloboy

@wildboys  my thoughts exactly.  Though, i think we should stop using the term "sexy" to describe prospects.  It just seems odd somehow.

dave42
dave42

@helloboy I don't mind moving Syndergaard, but I want a big-time bat in return for him.  Cargo, Kemp, middle of the order guy, not another prospect or three. 


Is there a chance the team could/would move Colon at the end of the year?  Could they get something for him? 

mets2014
mets2014

@helloboy those aren't terrible suggestions...I just think the FO has no interest in moving Thor

tk2120
tk2120

@helloboy  i respect your opinion, but Thor goes nowhere...Collmenter's fastball is flat & seems like the most hittable pitcher in baseball...i'd say Montero & Plawecki for Owings is fine..i like your thinking, but they aren't going to move this 'top 3'....which is why i mentioned below, that gee, montero, degrom, or mejia will be the biggest trade bait in the offseason...i'd try & push for Owings now, but they don't seem to be doing so, and Colon will obviously be moved in July

dave42
dave42

@osujerry guess I should have read a little further down.  makes sense to me!

Manny Rodriguez
Manny Rodriguez

@osujerry   They should Trade Gee in July and get a good hitter. Maybe Gee, Plawecki and de Groom for Carlos Gonzalez or Tulo. Why not, De Groom for Alexei Ramirez? WE NEED HITTERS!, WE ARE PLAYING GREAT BALL WITH  GOOD PITCHING AND WE STILL HAVE BETTER PITCHERS IN MINORS, LETS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GEE CONSISTENCY AND LETS GET SOMETHING.

tk2120
tk2120

@osujerry  they will... Harvey, Wheeler, Syndegaard, Niese, Gee, Mejia, Montero, deGrom...you need 5-7 incase of injuries....that's 8...trade one of the above, and obviously Colon, and i think next year looks good

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@domtoretto  I don't think the fact that Gee rocks Reed's old number is a coincidence.  Days like yesterday where Gee has a 2 day growth he REALLY reminds me of Reed....

Kevin Lucania
Kevin Lucania

@domtoretto  I was going to post the exact same thing. I was a big Rick Reed fan back in the day and I was logging on here to say that I see a lot of Reed in Gee. Great observation. 

helloboy
helloboy

@mets2014  NO! Mets will need him for the same reason and he may be better than many of our "top prospects", including Montero or Thor.  So no.  Actually, I would move Wheeler before him and I may even consider Thor, who at this point only has a cool name. 

tk2120
tk2120

@helloboy  he's arb eligible through 2016..im very excited for this rotation going fwd, i just hope they dont wait to long to move some of the depth for guys that can help..

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@tk2120 Colon should be traded in the Summer -- if he keeps up his current run, he will be useful for a team in a playoff race & should get a good return -- which need not be too much really if the other team also takes his salary. I think this is almost mainstream opinion. Few think he will be here next year.


It is a stretch to think a guy who was never a reliever should suddenly be our closer. Use him as a spot closer and a useful reliever, which is a lot more than many thought he would do. He also is useful trade bait.


Few disagree deGrom is good trade bait. Montero is okay trade bait for something truly significant. For a real SS, I'm game myself, even for an average upgrade there. Gee is a good starter. He has shown signs of inconsistency and had an injury issue. He has yet to been a consistent number three all year but has been a good back-end starter. There is nothing wrong with that.

tk2120
tk2120

HA! and i forgot Mejia!...this rotation is so deep going fwd, this offseason should be exciting & next years lineup should finally reflect these pitchers paying off

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Jeff Ordon Reed -- the guy who pitched Game 162 in '99. He was in effect the #2 on that team after Leiter. They both have that good in need of a shave look though Reed didn't try a stupid looking beard. Gee also didn't have to deal with the labor issue. Hopefully he also doesn't end up being trade mid-season in a salary dump.  Reed's career ended on a depressing note.

mets2014
mets2014

@helloboy @mets2014 lol I can see you are a big gee supporter which is cool...I just think the fact that mets are looking more closely at the payroll in recent years and gee will become too expensive for the team since they will probably view him as a 5th starter...that is why I think they would rather move a gee, niese or colon before a wheeler, thor or montero

roman411
roman411

This was the exact comparison I was about to make. Gee seems a small step above at this point in his career though. Gee also seems to be figuring out how to make adjustments (in game and from game to game) so hitters aren't figuring him out. Curious to see how it all plays out though.

tk2120
tk2120

@Joe Paulson wow, a complete, thought out, friendly response...usually guys on here just rip everyones opinion because they know better....


im pretty sure sandy was ok going '2 years' on colon, knowing he'd be able to move him at this years deadline...dont get me wrong, i love the colon show every week, but considering the teams strengths & weaknesses, and with the kids on the way, he'd prob bring back something somewhat significant, i'd hope

i know about dice k, i just don't trust valverde, farnsworth, etc... just think its an option..either way, as long as dice k is somewhere on the pitching staff, im happy..

between degrom, mejia, montero, gee, and niese, i'm looking fwd to seeing what 2 of these guys can bring back...if we can finally get that SS, maybe from AZ, and another OF, i'd like to see that too

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Zach Goeringer @BringBackDaveTelghe @ericccb Yeah - That's a very good point.  I admit I was among the fans last May that didn't think Gee was long for the rotation.  He was coming off mediocre years and a serious injury and I never really thought he'd turn into this kind of player.

Zach Goeringer
Zach Goeringer

@BringBackDaveTelghe @ericccb When you are coming off potentially career threatening surgery I think it gives you a little bit of a pardon for a third of a year of struggles, especially when he has been one of the better pitchers in the national league since that point.