Did the Mets make an effort to sign Tanaka?

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

As far as I can tell, the Mets gave no indication – be it public or private – that they ever intended to bid on Japanese free-agent Masahiro Tanaka, who signed a seven-year, $155 million with the Yankees on Wednesday.

0116S1_Tanaka_50p1I know it would have been a refundable $20 million posting fee, but the buzz in MLB was that Tanaka would end up signing a six- or seven-year deal, which is exactly what he got. That’s a lot of money to commit to a guy with no MLB track record. I hear people talk about his outstanding command and his devastating split-finger fastball. But, Sandy Alderson’s problem now, and through the foreseeable future, is with scoring runs. His rotation, and future rotations, should be fine.

Sandy Alderson has a good group of young, hard-throwing pitchers on the rise and I can’t see his front office ever making a nine-figure bet on the rotation… at least not until Matt Harvey is up for an extension in a few years.

Instead, I see them continuing to spend on hitters, relievers and bench players, while working to develop more home-grown power arms through the farm (whether acquired by trade or the draft).




140 comments
Chris Biehl
Chris Biehl

No, why even consider taking a huge gamble like this.....Guy hasnt thrown 1 pitch in MLB.....Mets system is loaded with arms

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

The Mets' problem is that they are suffering from a gigantic inferiority complex. The are a minor league operation in the big leagues.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

Why on earth would the Mets bid on Tanaka? They have so much starting pitching it's scary. I wanna hear ab bats. What bats are we getting. The Mets are in a position where none of the there off season money should be spent on pitching. I like the Colon signing but I would rather a bat.

Andy
Andy

This is like asking if Bernie Madoff is an upstanding fiduciary.

TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

Who cares if the Mets bid for him, he wasn't coming here anyway. Astros placed a bid, anyone care? Nope.

jakub
jakub

25...is the number. Over or under for how many starts Colon will make in 2014.

Ziggy Jones
Ziggy Jones

if they wanted to spend wisely on bats then why didn't they go after peralta harder? or jose abreu?


i don't see the mets spending anything significant anymore b/c apparently granderson young and colon is now considered a big offseason. I'm not a huge fan of the young signing, but i do like the other two. Still, the mets act like they made a huge splash. The yankees spent about 2-3x as much as the mets this offseason like it was nothing.


The other piece that matt linked to today (about not signing drew) made a pretty good point. If the mets are going to be so cheap, then why not just see what guys like ike and tejada are going to do, and if they flop this year, then just clear them all out and start bringing up the real prospects and signing some real free agents. otherwise just fill in accordingly. 


the mets always seem to be stuck in between and they never get anywhere as a result

jakub
jakub

Nobody can deny the risk with Tanaka for that price tag. I think the Mets should be in on one of E. Santana or Jimenez. Their price seems somewhat affordable considering what  what Garza got. I think Niese is one pitch away from completely tearing his rotator cuff.  Wheeler had some arm issues as well last year, and you don't know how he will respond to the extra work load. Gee you just don't know what you are going to get. Signing one of the other available pitchers they are still fairly young and proven starting pitchers. 

jrfam86
jrfam86

continuing to spend? Weird I didnt even know they started.

Ed Renner
Ed Renner

More garbage about who the Mets talked to. Rather than who they landed. Pretty clear that a lot of ballplayers just don't want to sign with this losing franchise. After the circus that Sandy and the Fabulous Willies have created, can you blame them?

Please stop writing about who they "talked" to.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

The Evil Empire commits $155M to a guy who has never thrown a pitch in the big leagues. And the Mets signed Taylor Teacozy. That pretty much shows the difference in the two franchises.

Bringback86
Bringback86

Did the Mets  make an effort to sign Tanaka???????  Did the Mets make an effort to sign Cano???  Did the Mets make an offer to sign to sign ANY elite players?  NO. AND THEY WILL NEVER MAKE THAT EFFORT, SO WHY DO WE ENTERTAIN SUCH INANE QUESTIONS?  THE METS ARE A SECOND CLASS ORGANIZATION, THANKS TO THE WILPONS AND WILL STAY SECOND CLASS FOR AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO OWN THEM.  


DO THEY MAKE AN EFFORT TO SIGN TANAKA OR CANO?  LET'S STOP WITH THE RHETORICAL, BS.  WE KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.  BUT HEY, WE DID GET TAYLOR TEAGARDEN AND CHRIS YOUNG.  NOW THAT'S PROGRESS!!!!  IF YOU BELEIVE IN THE EASTER BUNNY.

flmetsfan
flmetsfan

I read the last two posts from Bryan Zarpentine of Rant Sports.  Does this guy just cut and paste from previous posts?  (Seriously, read his last two posts.  He opens both with the same sentence.)  It's clear that he personally feels that signing Omar Quintanilla is the perfect motivation to get Rubin Tejada to take his job more seriously.  It seems that Mr. Z feels that Quintanilla is a perfectly acceptable bridge to the "incredible free agent shortstop class of the 2014 offseason" if Tejada doesn't pan out.  How 2013 of him.

Damn!  I have no idea who this guy is, but I sure hope Rant Sports isn't paying him for these journalistic jems.

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

Have all Sandy Aldersons first round picks been position players?

Anthony Testa
Anthony Testa

Is this a joke. The offer was a non roster spring training invite. Alderson is perplexed it got turned down

joebloe
joebloe

What's the story here? Didn't we already know this Matt? Thanks.

orangeblue
orangeblue

balfour was offered more money and years from the mets but declined to sign with rays who gave him $12M for 2 years. he went with signing near home over playing in one of the biggest markets in the world. i get it bc this may take him to end of his career but that's a tough pill to swallow for the mets

mike23
mike23

Mets organization sucks! That's all I have to say, just too much losing and low expectations, not sure how much more I can take supporting this team (our mindsets on winning are not on the same page). At least I am living in Florida so I can support the Rays (they are inching closer to taking over the top spot as the team I root for). 

mike23
mike23

So the mets can't even out bid the brewers to get a guy like Garza, no they settle for hoping a 40 year old can come close to duplicating last year. Mets just don't get it and are still annoying their fans, 5 years of losing in a row might as well make it 6, man this franchise is annoying. 

mike23
mike23

is this a real questions, seriously does anyone think the mets would actually make an offer even close to what this guy was supposed to get. Yeah mets probably said how about 2 years 24 million, no don't like it ok that is our budget sorry.. mets making an offer for tanaka, funny stuff yet pathetic to be a mets fan right now as well. 

sickntired
sickntired

Please. You never have enough pitching.  The Braves had plenty of pitching in the early 90s but they still went out and added Maddux and were dominant for more than a decade.  Adding Tanaka would not be a bad baseball move.  He never pitched in MLB ? I'm sure the Yankees don't know that...

joeknix
joeknix

Riddle me this . . . give me a team with excessive quality pitching and I'll show you a team that is either constantly in contention or in a position of strength in the trade market.  Ever heard the expression you can never have enough good pitching.  It's true. Granted, Mets would have to spend big bucks to sign him and those kind of big boy decisions are left to teams in big markets like LA and New York, cough.

sickntired
sickntired

Hey Cerrone, this post is a joke, right? We can't even sign the SS we all know we need and you really think the Mets ownership would even consider spening all this money on Tanaka and outbid the NY Yankees?  I don't think any Mets fan with a brain even considered that for a moment!

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Mike Dell Italia You are assuming that the hype you have heard on all their unproven pitchers is true.  Time will tell.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@jakub How about Niese?  What's the under/over on him?

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Ziggy Jones they completely misread the market on Peralta and thought they were going to get him for 2 years at $10M per season.

Söze, Keyser
Söze, Keyser

Agree totally with your points. Big problem they have, which impacts their shaky finances, is that there are no real prospects for 1B and SS...so if Ike/Tejada ultimately don't work out, they have no option but the FA market. Which is why I think taking a chance on Abreu made sense. Writers here poo-poo'd him when the Mets showed little interest, but wiping the slate clean at 1B would have been worth the risk. Of course, finances made that idea a non-starter.

Ziggy Jones
Ziggy Jones

@jakub i think colon, wheeler, and gee are a good start. niese i would try to trade, b/c everyone seems to overvalue lefties for some reason. I don't have anything against him, but i think we've seen his ceiling (or close to it-solid pitcher who's a slight injury threat).


the mets also have harvey for next year, but throw in montero, mejia, syndergaard, and there really is no reason to go after tanaka.


But there's that much more reason to go after everyone who isn't a starter

ladymetfan
ladymetfan

@Ed Renner Granderson is not a 'nobody' signing--- every dog has their day & you need to remember 1962-1967(not 1969). It's the hard times that build a team into integral pieces of a franchise season. In this age of instantaneous gratification, I am glad Sandy(not the Wilpons-jerky nerds) has the foresight to plan ahead for a joyous, winning season down the road. Just you wait, Henry Higgins.  PS :when PIAZZA  goes into the HOF, his CAP will NOT be a BLANK LOGO!

Ziggy Jones
Ziggy Jones

@flmetsfan i understand, but the mets have nothing that will improve them drastically. i agree with his stance on tejada, b/c the mets have misused him (like most players) over the last year or so.


Tejada has a sense of entitlement b/c the mets gave it to him, so they need to bring in some competition, but make it his spot to lose. And much emphasis on the "to lose" part

Ziggy Jones
Ziggy Jones

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Ziggy Jones
Ziggy Jones

@orangeblue that's what the mets get when they show all their own players that they don't care about them or winning, just about what saves them (or makes them) the most money

sickntired
sickntired

That's exactly it.  Met ownership has already given up on 2014 and are now looking at 2015. We should too.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@mike23 Lets face it.  If Tanaka volunteered to come to the Mets for the major league minimum salary they still wouldn't have taken him because they wouldn't pay the $20M posting fee.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sickntired The Braves signing of Maddux may be in the top 5 free agent signings of all time.  What a great move that was.

Doug Laipert
Doug Laipert

@Hodges14 The same can be said about Tanaka. He's never faced major league talent, for all we know he can be a bust. Time will tell with him as well, and all that money is not worth the risk.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

@Hodges14 well you have niese gee colon and wheeler.  those guys are locked in as solid starters.  Im sure someone will work out from the rest.  Plus Matt Harvey.  Starting pitching is the last of their worries.  I would not give a starting pitcher 150 million dollars, i would give a position player 150 

jakub
jakub

@Ziggy Jones @jakub Like I said. I am fine with not going after Tanaka. Huge risk, lots of money which as we know the Mets dont have. I wanted one of Garza, E Santana or Jimenez. I agree that Niese has reached his ceiling and I really think he is gong to be on the shelf at some point for an extended period of time. Wheeler is really nor proven yet and has not pitched more than 175 innings in the Majors. Gee is is a solid #4 starter maybe a strong #3 on a good day. We have some young talent but thats all it is, unproven. I was just thinking that the price of the before mentioned  pitchers were decent in today's market and I would have rather had any of them over Colon.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sickntired In 2015 Harvey and Syndergaard at a minimum will be on strict innings limits.  I think you better set your sights on 2016 or 2017.  They should be ready to compete for a championship right around the time Wright's contract is finishing up.

sickntired
sickntired

The Braves added to their strength by signing Maddux.  They already had great young arms and they signed a Cy Young, future HOF pitcher.  Mets? No, we already have plenty of pitching.  Says who?We will be watching something other than Mets by June...

zoddie
zoddie

@Hodges14@sickntiredThen deGrom, Mejia, and Hefner can start some games.  We have crazy depth as far as starters go.  We'll still need offense by 2015, though.

sickntired
sickntired

That's why I'm sickntired of this BS and reading Cerrone doesn't make it any better.  Team is a joke!

Hodges14
Hodges14

@sickntired Thing is, the Braves wanted to win.  Totally different situation.