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Dice-K gets a save, but Farnsworth is still primary closer

Daisuke Matsuzaka got his first big-league save on Thursday, pitching a perfect ninth inning against the Cardinals.

Terry Collins later said, for now, Kyle Farnsworth is still his primary closer.

“Farnsworth is still the guy, but we might need somebody else at the end of the game,” he said. “So, I thought today was a good time to try Matsuzaka. Don’t be shocked if something should happen where he ends up pitching the ninth inning.”

Matsuzaka, Farnsworth, Jose Valverde and Carlos Torres all have at least one save this season.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Matsuzaka is tough minded, experienced, he loves baseball, he loves pitching, he loves the spotlight and he loves to be in pressurized moments. However, he also takes forever to warm up and he doesn’t always keep the ball in the strikezone. So, while he may have the mental make-up to pitch late in games, I’m concerned about his physical ability to keep succeeding in this role. I know bullpen coach Ricky Bones is working him on cutting down his 2-3 inning warm-up time, so that’s a start. He’s up to the challenge, I’m told. He’d prefer to be a starter, obviously, but more than anything he wants to be involved and play an important role in in the team’s success, this is the most important thing to him. So far so good…



Matsuzaka is getting used to his new role >> Read more in the Star-Ledger.

He doesn’t want to be the guy to get saves, he wants to be the guy the team turns to in pressure situations late in games >> Read more in the New York Post.




45 comments
Ramon Saurez
Ramon Saurez

I'd prefer saving our best pitchers for high leverage situations. 

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

I actually rather like the idea of experimenting with Dice-K as a closer. Why Not? sometimes you don't know who will thrive in that role until you try it. Look at the Red Sox, Koji Uhera was only a closer because Baily and Hanrahan were hurt and look how good that worked out 

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Okay, we can calm down -- it's nice that Dice-K is looking useful as a multi-purpose reliever, at least after a few times, but yeah, he isn't quite Smoltz yet.

pimpinbell
pimpinbell

That is the single most Matt Cerrone-y paragraph ever written:   "Matsusaka can close, unless he can't, but he can, so I'm told, so far so good."

Jon Pace
Jon Pace

There is definitely something there with Dice-K and either becoming a closer or middle reliever. Would be nice to see the Mets take a former starter and turn him into a dominant reliever. I can see it working. 

slainte2
slainte2

The BP is outperforming expectations ... awesome job (does Warthen get any credit here?)


BTW ... Mets four minor league affiliates are combined 50-26 so far this year.  We love to be unhappy around here ... but some good things are happening.

BadContract
BadContract

Ricky Bones almost as good as Razor Shines!

tullydew
tullydew

Anyone read the Mookie Wilson article in the NY Post?

He really lashed out at the Mets organization and front office. I don't think he is a fan of Alderson or the Wilpons. I wonder what the Wilpons response will be with Mookies comments.

Mr. SERCH
Mr. SERCH

wow, i cant believe it take this kid THAT long to get warmed up....if he can change that, and really embrace and accept the closer role, i think Dice-K can pitch til he's friggin 40 as a closer. He's got the stuff to be absolutely dominant in one inning. Of course he's gonna have clunkers but that's the life of a relief pitcher. I'm not saying he is going to turn around and now give us .98 ERA and .75 WHIP baseball from this moment on, but I for one am pretty excited he's in the pen and is doing well. I truly think he will only get better, and perhaps indeed be the closer by the middle of next month. 

Cuz if he doesnt step up, WHEN Farnsworth implodes, well jesus christ...i dont even want to think about how terrible this bullpen will be

upstaphan
upstaphan

Since we don't have a legit actual closer. I like the idea of using different guys and not anointing anyone with the job. That way you can ride the hot hand, and don't have to paint yourself into a corner and keep making these silly statements of who is they guy and who is not. I mean if there was ever a time for closer by committee, wouldn't it be now when your true closer goes out for the entire year in April and there is no clear 8th inning guy to step into the role and lock it down?


Also having multiple options keeps the other team guessing and gives you some different looks that may be an advantage for us.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

"Matsuzaka...he loves baseball, he loves pitching, he loves the spotlight and he loves to be in pressurized moments."

Dice-K sure does have a lot of loves.  Does that have to be sourced?

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Only 78 more wins to go! :)  LETS GO METS!

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

Why does there have to be one set closer? One is as good as the next on any given day. Spread it around and then no one gets over used. Everyone will get plenty of work anyway. The 7th inning is the new complete game for the starters.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Have the Mets clinched a wildcard position yet? 

lholztrio
lholztrio

When will Murphy receive a contract extension?  Hasn't he earned it?

lholztrio
lholztrio

Everyday we have a completely different bullpen structure.  Why do people even listen to Terry?

nolrog
nolrog

Ahh, gotta love the Mets.  Everytime something happens, they have to put out a quick message saying, but soandso is still the primary xxxx.

Ike gets the start at first, but Duda is still the primary 1B.

Dice-K gets a save, but Farnsworth is still the primary closer.

Just play the game already and enjoy the early season success.

owlnut
owlnut

It's a shame that none of the young guys are on this lust.

METS HAPPEN
METS HAPPEN

Torres' deadpan poker-face trumps all the other players' hands....  err arms.
I think he has the mental make-up to be a solid closer.  Doesn't let the bad games get to him.
He can handle a 4-5+ out close if we are shorthanded as well.
Doesn't get overly-excited about anything for that matter.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Great to see Dice-K, Farnsworth and Colon doing well. Either could become a valuable trade chip come the end of June. Or, keep if we're still in the hunt for a wild card spot.

dukewillie
dukewillie

@tullydew  As you know, here's their ONLY response: [The Mets were aware Wilson’s book, which will be released Tuesday, and issued a statement after The Post told a team spokesman about some of the excerpts.“We are pleased that Mookie accepted our offer to rejoin the organization in 2012 and continue with us in spring training and during the season as a roving instructor and Club Ambassador,” the statement said.]...Pathetic on the part of the Mets FO. It's soooo hard to be a Mets fan.

fakefans
fakefans

The beauty of being able to watch games is that you dont have to worry about what the manager or players say. You can see it all unfold for yourself every night.

And smarter people(obviously not you)have probably figured out by now that Terry is only giving reporters easy answers since they are going to spin what he says to fit their intended storyline anyway.

vimets
vimets

Bullpen by committee, it has been successful for teams in the past.

fakefans
fakefans

Have you taken your meds yet?

Brian McCarthy
Brian McCarthy

I love Murphy.His fielding is a lot better now.But he needs to hit for alittle power.I don't see Flores making it.Can't field and right now not hitting either.

vimets
vimets

It still very possible that Wilmer Flores is going to be the Mets future

long term 2b's, so Murphy might not even be on the team at the end

of the 2014 season.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@nolrog Well, I assume TC was answering a reporter's question regarding Dice-K potentially being the closer.  As is customary when someone other than the "primary closer" come in for a save.


Nevermind the fact that TC said Farnsworth was unavailable today. 

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@Craig Kelly Easy....

I've been impressed with Torres but it's not like he has good stuff.  He's a deception / touch guy and doesn't blow anyone away.  There's going to be days he just can't locate and since he can't blow someone away, he'll be in trouble.  (See yesterday, if he HAS to stay in because he is the "closer", we lose that game)

The save thing is so ridiculous when your team has no closer...

72tilltc
72tilltc

@fakefans  Terry is an idiot if you dont see that you are a bigger idiot.

BadContract
BadContract

It's not healthy to speak in first person Terry.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@Brian McCarthy  2nd in RBI's as a 2B last season with 78 mainly from the 2nd spot in the lineup.  2nd in NL in hits, and tied for 7th in 2Bs...why does he need to hit for more power?  

nolrog
nolrog

Then just say, Kyle was unavailable today, so I went to Dice, and leave it at that.  He doesn't have to justify anything beyond that.

fakefans
fakefans

Yes, I am going to take your word for it rather than trust what I see.

Is he frustrating at times because he pulls our starters too soon and doesnt let relievers work their way out of self-created jams? Sure, but I suspect every old school baseball fan would say the same thing about his team's manager in the current era.

Bottom line, most people who complain about Terry here are complaining about his answers to reporters. That is idiotic. Why would he ever publically divulge his true thoughts for his competition to consume? If you want to know his thinking, watch his in-game decision-making, which has been damn close to spot-on this season. He is pushing all the right buttons so far so quit your whining, you washed-up never beens!

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@C.K. Dexter Haven @Brian McCarthy But look at the stats you referenced....

He had a lot of hits but also made the most outs of any 2b in the league last year.  He made 20 more outs then the guy behind him in Altuve because he walks so little.

Also, RBI are absolutely meaningless when used for analysis like this.  It's impressive considering he was following one of the worst hitters in the league in EYJ, but there's so much circumstance that goes into it you can't look at it and say he has "x" RBI, that was a great season.

fakefans
fakefans

So quit paying attention to what he says in response to some dumbazz reporter, and instead just watch what he does. Seems to me he has been more right than wrong so far.