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Dice-K expected to get one more start

Daisuke Matsuzaka (3-2, 3.23 ERA) gave up a season-high five runs Thursday, during which he let up five hits, walked four and struck out four in a loss to the Pirates.

The leadoff hitter reached base against him during five of his six innings.

Matsuzaka is likely to get least one more start before Dillon Gee returns from the disabled list, according to beat reporter Mike Puma (NY Post, June 27).

Pirates rookie Gregory Polanco broke the game open with a three-run home run in the fifth inning.

“I actually shook off d’Arnaud on that pitch and it ended up being a big mistake,” Matsuzaka told reporters after the game. ““I didn’t have my best stuff today. I just wanted to fight through.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

He pitched well in Miami, not so much in Pittsburgh. It doesn’t matter, though, since he’ll likely get bumped to the bullpen when Gee returns from the DL. I want to see more of Jacob deGrom in the rotation, he has shown too much promise to jerk him around. Plus, Matsuzaka pitched well in relief when he transitioned to that role earlier this season.

In 17 relief appearances this season, Matsuzaka has a 2.22 ERA, while striking out 28 of the 106 batters he faced.




32 comments
Noah Baron
Noah Baron

When Gee comes back just send him down to AAA or cut him.  He is a terrible pitcher.

Darrell Smith
Darrell Smith

Why wait ?.. Put him back in the Pen NOW ,  

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

Dice K back to the pen when Gee returns is the easy decision. The more difficult choice I'm interested is who does Gee replace on the roster? Germen? Kirk?

Matt Gunther
Matt Gunther

He has pitched mostly well. Met fans have nothing to complain about right now with Dice-K. He has pitched well as a starter and a reliever.

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

Much respect to Dice K for the job he's done this year.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Surely, other teams like him too. Matsuzaka would fit nicely in a package. But for who? Getting a Big Bopper would require an earthquake-like trade which would include some of our best starters.

1craigswan
1craigswan

I heard that Dice K felt bad about shaking off d'Arnaud and was going to apologize to him for doing so. Classy veteran to consider doing that. 

Michael Herrington
Michael Herrington

Dice-K has been a good pitcher this year so far. Less exposure the better. But Colon, Dice-K and Torres all fit in the category of vets taking up the innings load until the young kids come along.

It would be a good idea to see the value of each going forward. Are they more valuable to keep or trade while the value is high to a real playoff bound club? If they find interest in any of these pitchers and good value in trade, I would move them.

ShawnP
ShawnP

This organization "jerks"every one around,most of all the fan base.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Dice-K has done a better than expected job for us. One bad outing is not worth talking about. At least we know we have another long man besides Torres.

1harris1
1harris1

He's done a very nice job for the Mets. Good pitcher to have in your 'pen as a swing man.

JasonMiles
JasonMiles

If Dice K thought he would stay in the rotation after Gee got back then he is delusional. DeGromm deserves a real serious look. he has the makeup of a big leaugue pitcher 

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Darrell Smith  Because Gee still needs at least one more rehab start before he's ready to be activated from the DL

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@1craigswan I know his hitting is still suspect, but the amount of respect these pitchers, including veterans like Dice-K, have shown d'Arnaud for his ability to call a game and spot them is incredibly impressive for such a young player. Especially considering his defense was supposed to be his weak spot, according to all the scouting reports.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

I wouldn't move Torres. He's not that old, and I can't see why he can't be a part of the bullpen for several years to come. Dice-K, if they can get something for him, great. With Colon I think it would depend a lot on Dillon Gee's production between now and the deadline. If he's not back to form, then no way do I see them moving Colon mid-season b/c they need his innings. But if Gee comes back and is great, then I could possibly see it if they get a good enough return.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@JasonMiles Yep.  He can get another chance if any of the youngsters are on innings limits at the end of the year.  This team should obviously not be catering to journeyman guys.

mets74
mets74

@JasonMiles Where does it say he thinks he should remain in the starting rotation? He knows that he will be going back to the BP unless there's another injury. 

exileinla
exileinla

@Eddie_Dean @1craigswan Gee, from your comment you might almost think that major league pitchers know more about evaluating the talent of a catcher than experts such as people who post on blogs...

That can't be right, can it? 

[sarcasm font off]

Michael Herrington
Michael Herrington

@Eddie_Dean I am thinking Pedro Feliciano here when it comes to Torres. He is being way overused and could end up like Pedro. Best to let him to to be damaged goods with another club as he gets older.

I would move him, there are plenty of right handed pitchers coming up in the Mets minors. Left handed..not so much.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@mets74 @JasonMiles They did have a post here sometime in the last week about who would be demoted.  I can't remember for sure but I thought there was some Dice K reaction thinking he should stay in.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

@exileinla @Eddie_Dean @1craigswan Who said anything about blog posters? I was talking about actual scouts in the business of evaluating talent for organizations. Obviously they're not always right, but they're valued enough by people in the business (including the players) that their reports are used by the brass to make personnel decisions, ntm used by the players themselves, such as a pitcher deciding how to pitch to a guy he's never seen before.

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

 @Eddie_Dean He's not quite as old as Feliciano was though when they let Feliciano walk in free agency. Plus, he's not even close as overused either. Pedro lead the league in appearances 3 years in a row before he left in free agency and his arm fell off with the Yankees. He was getting up almost every game when there was a chance a lefty might come to the plate with men on after the 5th inning. Torres has been overworked, but I don't think it's been that bad yet. This is the first year he's made more than 33 appearances. He's at 38 now, which is tied for 12th overall in the league. That's a tough workload, but not so much that I'd start worrying about him deteriorating by next season.

They can have all the righties in the world coming up. Finding ones who can pitch effectively out of the bullpen is hard work though. Think about all the guys that have come through here and failed. I just would not be so quick to move a guy who's shown the dependability Torres has when he's just 31.

Michael Herrington
Michael Herrington

@Eddie_Dean That is what everyone said about Feliciano, he was not overused. Until he was injured from overuse. His arm fell off before the Yankees. He pitched zero innings for the Yankees. 


He is 31 or has value to other clubs, thus move him. He will not be around one way or another if or when the Mets get to the playoffs again.


His whip is 1.51 quite high, ERA means nothing to me. More hits and more walks and many more games. His is not as effective because of overuse.  Overused for Torres as he never ever pitched that many games or got up that many times in the pen. Comparing other pitchers to a one time stater like Torres is a bad comparison for bullpen overuse.