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DeGrom looked great, rotation decision will be interesting

In his big-league debut Thursday, Mets rookie RHP Jacob deGrom limited the Yankees to one run, four hits and two walks, while striking out six, in seven innings.

“That was awesome facing those guys,” deGrom said, admitting he was nervous during the first inning. “I watched Jeter growing up. I couldn’t ask for a better team to make my debut against.”

DeGrom also got his first hit, lining a single to center field in his first career plate appearance. It was also the first hit by a pitcher for the Mets this season, snapping an 0-for-64 slump.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Sandy Alderson is going to be faced with some difficult decisions. DeGrom showed last night that he’s worthy of being in the rotation. He should not be in the bullpen, so long as he’s pitching even close to how he pitched Thursday. Initially, the idea was to start with Montero in the rotation and use deGrom in the bullpen. It’s my understanding the two may have eventually been flipped, in an effort to manage innings, with trips to Triple-A scheduled in as well.

Meanwhile, Jon Niese is pitching very well, Dillon Gee is expected to return from the disabled list within the next couple of weeks and Noah Syndergaard is going to warrant a promotion sooner than later. Bartolo Colon is under contract for two years and Zack Wheeler isn’t going any place, at least not yet. It’s a good problem to have. There is no telling what happens the next few starts for Montero and deGrom, but the poise they showed – against the Yankees, in that environment – was beyond encouraging. Choose wisely, Sandy…




116 comments
painterman
painterman

deGrom will be joining the other pitchers lining up to leave this punch less team.

baseballnblues
baseballnblues

Sandy will do this right because he only understands pitching. This is painfully obvious by their offseason signings as well as this ridiculous hunting for strikes nonsense.

hankypanky
hankypanky

This is a no-brainier. Start DeGrom and start resting Colon and Wheeler by having them alternate their starts.

Montero on the other hand needs more maturing..

hashburry
hashburry

He's already ahead of Wheeler.

Harley Alderson
Harley Alderson

heres a solution get rid of colon, 2 year contract be damned 

Russ Sullivan
Russ Sullivan

Let's be real for a second. Yes the kid pitched great. But that also happens a lot when they come up because teams have never seen him or have any scouting on him. Especially an American League team. But I also do think he earned two more starts after how well he did pitch. So give the kid two more. And if he keeps picking well keep him right where he is. But yes if we keep pitching well like this we have to trade at least one starter for a bat. I don't wanna see Neise gee or wheeler go anywhere though. So I don't know who they should trade.

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

MVP jk he looked like an ace last night - mets need to stock pile on pitching because citi field to big for wright grandy - great job Wilpon - citi stole a lot if home runs from mets

Chad Michael
Chad Michael

DeGrom looked great and I would say he deserves the spot in the rotation.  It would be unfair to expect him to go out and have starts like this everytime but to me Montero is not ready for the rotation.  He has the one above average, one average, and one below average pitch.  Therefore, he should pitch out of the pen until he can further develop the change up and slider.  Otherwise he will do well the first two times around the lineup and most likely struggle the third time around when hitters get an eye for his fastball.  The Mets should therefore limit his exposure before he can fully develop all of his pitches and truly have success in the rotation.

Mark Nunzio Fiorillo
Mark Nunzio Fiorillo

We need all the young arms to be showcased this season.  The possibility of packaging some young arms to get what this team lacks....POWER bats! 

flushed
flushed

It's not a good problem to have because we play guys according to their paycheck...while I don't think much of Terry Collins, I strongly suspect Sandy Alderson controls everything down to the line up. He is the real problem with this team because he doesn't have a baseball mind and he is a stubborn control freak.

daddy68
daddy68

When Gee comes back, if he continues his great run, attempt to trade Gee, Wheeler/DeGrom or Wheeler/Montero, one of those combos, for a top hitting prospect who is ready now.  I'm looking at Gregory Polanco(PITT), Joc Pederson(LA), Nick Franklin (SEA).  We need bats big time.

Shawn M. Milburn
Shawn M. Milburn

I hope the new Commissioner forces the Wilpons to sell. Then, Alderson is gone. New GM means new manager, new coaches. A complete overhaul. All of sudden the Mets players will hit with a proper philosophy and some real bats and a true SS and 1B

Vic Scarpelli
Vic Scarpelli

you pray Colon gets some value and deal him by the deadline

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

I have been advocating a deGrom for Gregorius trade for a while. Arizona is at the bottom of the barrel and Gregorius, at last look, was still in the minors.

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

Stick Wheeler in the pen. If he doesn't figure out his repertoire and mechanics, then opposing teams are just gonna get him up to a 100 pitches in one inning eventually, anyway.

John Cross
John Cross

There's probably every chance that either Montero or DeGrom get sent down when Gee is off the DL, unless they decide to release Valverde and put 1 of those 2 in the pen. But yes, they're going to need to trade at least 1 of their young starters for offense at some point, probably 2 of them or even 3.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

A Dice-K trade would be for a prospect.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

We CANNOT trade Niese. Have you bothered to look at our roster? He's our only left hander.

grillruben
grillruben

Send Colon to an all-you-can-eat buffet and you'll never see him again.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

No one is going to give up a big bat EITHER as a deadline trade. What contender is going to trade a "big bat"? That would be more of a winter deal.

Frenchie Valle
Frenchie Valle

Choose wisely sandy, yeah right like he chose wisely picking cy over Nelson cruz or even jose abreau. Let me be the gm for this team I'll create a dynasty.

slainte2
slainte2

Piggyback the starters ... 5 man rotation go innings 1-6, 3 man rotation go 7-9, with 4 "stoppers" to close out innings if others get in trouble.


Could you imagine harvey, mejia, and wheeler rotating to complete last three innings every night?  finish up 54 games each, Harvey would probably be first guy with 20 wins and 20 saves in same season.  Would shorten the other team's game, and give mets chance to catch up to any deficit every night, and protect any lead.


Six inning starts are reality now ... so foolish, so frustrating to try to skate by with the Rice, Valverde, Farnsworth types to finish up the games!!

Jonathan Yeaman
Jonathan Yeaman

Your kidding with Dice K right? Our best trade chips are one of the young pitchers! Your going to have to give one of them up if you want a big bat in return! Nobody is going to give you anything of value you for DiceK. Gee and Niese are more likely

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Dillon Gee is our best trade chip. But if we are not going to move him in trade, I believe Dice-K becomes our best trade chip at the trade deadline since he's showed he can either pitch in the rotation or out of the bullpen. Trade him and move Colon to the pen. Rotation would be Niese, Gee, Wheeler, Montero and deGrom. Then, with Harvey coming back next year and Syndergaard on the way, the FO has a difficult decision over the winter but at least Montero and deGrom get a good look and experience.

Bob G
Bob G

Gee, I wish I was paid a few million a year to make Sandy's TOUGH DECISIONS. Sorry but compared to the rest of us, Sandy's job is a piece of cake.

bingmets
bingmets

I think Gee has to be traded at the deadline. Statistically, he's been a top 10 pitcher in the league for the past year.

His trade value has never been higher, and he should get us a legit hitter.

msanta031
msanta031

Whatever decision the Mets make, I can promise you it will be the wrong one.

bklehmann
bklehmann

lets use this time to audition DeGrom and Montero to increase trade value.  Then decide who should stay and who should go, but a trade for a big IMPACT should in order this summer.


I think Toronto is a prime candidate to trade with as they have NO young pitching, will def look to dump salary and have 2 impact bats in Bautista and Encarnacion.


We make a trade this summer and empty the bankroll on Tulowitzki in the fall.  


it seems like the logical moves to me!!

Bob G
Bob G

@Mark Nunzio Fiorillo  You know we'll package a guy and then he'll win the Cy Young for someone else. What we need to do is sign some free agents so we don't have to give up all the good arms.

Greg Nichols
Greg Nichols

@daddy68  if Im packaging # players of their caliber, im getting back a proven Bat now like Stanton or Tulo

Frank Tangorra
Frank Tangorra

The Pirates are not trading Polanco and the Dodgers are gonna dump Either for Peterson.

specialk
specialk

@Frenchie Valle  Nelson Cruz wanted a 4 or 5 year deal for big money when they signed CY.  There was no way to know you could get him on a one year deal in spring training.  If you think he would have agreed to play in the grand canyon as opposed to the little league park in Baltimore you need your head checked.  JOse Abreu has been great, but its been 6 weeks and he also can't play first base on a everyday major league basis so he's better as a DH that's why mostly american league teams were interested in him.


But don't let facts get in the way of a good story.  It's always easy be play GM from the sidelines with no repercussions or the full factual information.  

Frank Tangorra
Frank Tangorra

Totally agree. I've been saying this for a long time. Also if Colon gets hot they should trade him also.

slainte2
slainte2

@bingmets

But you know what ... he is a young vet, and he is steady presence, and a really good pitcher.  He could be a perfect complement to all of the younger, less experienced pitchers.  Better answer may be to extend him, and trade some of the potential.

grillruben
grillruben

@Victor Triguero  

Completely agree. No matter how you shape this rotation you're gonna have 5 solid guys. Degroms start last night illustrates the real problem. We have no lineup!

stemog
stemog

@bklehmann Who would we have left to trade for Tulowitzki after making a deal for a big bat this summer? I think there has to be one trade and then a free agent signing this winter.

L.a. Henry
L.a. Henry

@specialk @Frenchie Valle I agree. Sandy got Wheeler, Thor, D'Arnuld and other prospects for leftovers. He is building a powerhouse pitching staff. I'm sure that any surplus pitching will be used to improve offence. METS FANS BE PATIENT!!!! The future is brighter now than it has been in a long time.

@stemog @bklehmann  Come on.  You know he will go to the Yankees.  Without many exceptions, when they want someone, they get him.   They feast at the free agent table and leave scraps for everyone else.  The power of the checkbook.

bklehmann
bklehmann

 @stemog @bklehmann  we're gonna get 2 big bats!! one via trade and one via free agency.


the Yankees shot their load this offseason.  PLUS...AROD will be on payroll so I can't see them going NUTS esp. if they continue to play the way they are.  


Its going to come for us and we do have the bankroll.

bklehmann
bklehmann

@Tarheel11 @bklehmann @stemog  i dont disagree.  He's def not Tulo so I wouldnt want to go crazy there.


We def need a SS and there are some available this offseason like JJ Hardy; Asdrubal Cabrera;  Jed Lowrie.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@bklehmann @Tarheel11 @stemog  Yep. Just checked it to make sure. Signed through 2020. 

I just can't see them going after Ramirez at all. IF he doesn't resign with LA, he's going to command a 5+ year deal for big money. With teams like the Yankees in the market. And that kind of length of deal goes against everything SA believes in. As well as the fact that I don't think they have the money to pay him anyway

bklehmann
bklehmann

@Tarheel11 @bklehmann @stemog  DOH!!  I must've missed that.  


I dont why I thought that.  I could've swore he was a FA.  


oh well...how about Hanley?  :)